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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Meanwhile one of the cops in VA got fired after video of him pepper spraying a soldier went viral.
    It's telling about the state of policing that he knew to stop in a well lit place because even as a service member he didn't trust them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    It's telling about the state of policing that he knew to stop in a well lit place because even as a service member he didn't trust them.
    It's also telling that they've had the evidence that he needed to be fired for four months and didn't do so until the video became public and went viral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stelio Kontos View Post
    Like I said, you westerners do whatever the hell sort of shit you want. Just please don't export that cancer. I don't need to see my country's history get torn down to please some spoiled college kids.
    “Please examine the flaws in your own cultural narrative but not in ours.”

    No. <3 I as a Greek will continue to cast aspersions at people like Aristotle for being mincing women-hating pedophiles and will also continue to look in askance at great man worship of *any* stripe.

    The insistence on adhering to a mythologized version of history is a cancer and one of the things fueling systemic racism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheramoreIsTheBomb View Post

    RIP!!
    Go fuck yourselves to the cops that killed him!!!! Rot in prison, wankers.

    I hate the racism in this country I swear.
    Pretty fucking awful. Can't wait to hear how the police excuse away this murder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    It's telling about the state of policing that he knew to stop in a well lit place because even as a service member he didn't trust them.
    It's horrifying what some of our police departments have allowed to fester in this country. The entire profession needs to be rewritten from the ground up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Meanwhile one of the cops in VA got fired after video of him pepper spraying a soldier went viral.
    Thank fucking god. God damn racist fucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    Pretty fucking awful. Can't wait to hear how the police excuse away this murder.
    You're going to love it:

    "The officer pulled out his gun, instead of his taser and oops shot him dead."

    No.

    Really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    You're going to love it:

    "The officer pulled out his gun, instead of his taser and oops shot him dead."

    No.

    Really.
    Already seen people excusing it because, "He had a warrant and was fleeing, he could have been going to kill people!"

    Ignoring that his warrants were for misdemeanor carrying an unlicensed pistol (gonna get the 2nd Amendment types in a bit of a bind, probably) and fleeing police. No violence or any indication that he was a threat to others.

    Oh yeah, and there was a passenger in the car that I don't think has been identified. She apparently suffered only minor injuries, but she could have been seriously hurt or killed by this trigger happy cop.

    We need less cops raised and trained on 80's action movies that thinks the proper response to a suspect fleeing a traffic stop is to just start blastin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    We need less cops raised and trained on 80's action movies that thinks the proper response to a suspect fleeing a traffic stop is to just start blastin.
    Seriously, you do not shoot the driver in a moving vehicle unless you want it to crash uncontrollably into whatever - and whoever - is around. You shoot the tires to stop it, or better yet you don't shoot at a moving vehicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Already seen people excusing it because, "He had a warrant and was fleeing, he could have been going to kill people!"

    Ignoring that his warrants were for misdemeanor carrying an unlicensed pistol (gonna get the 2nd Amendment types in a bit of a bind, probably) and fleeing police. No violence or any indication that he was a threat to others.

    Oh yeah, and there was a passenger in the car that I don't think has been identified. She apparently suffered only minor injuries, but she could have been seriously hurt or killed by this trigger happy cop.

    We need less cops raised and trained on 80's action movies that thinks the proper response to a suspect fleeing a traffic stop is to just start blastin.
    We need less cops period.
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    Totally not racist

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    https://www.yahoo.com/news/minnesota...014849404.html

    he police officer who fatally shot a Black man during a traffic stop in a Minneapolis suburb apparently intended to fire a Taser, not a handgun, the city’s police chief said Monday.

    Brooklyn Center Police Chief Tim Gannon described the shooting as “an accidental discharge.” The state Bureau of Criminal Apprehension was investigating.

    Taser! Taser! Taser!” the officer is heard shouting on her body cam footage released at a news conference. After firing a single shot from her handgun, the car speeds away and the officer is heard saying, “Holy (expletive)! I shot him.”
    So at min she will get fired, there will be a settlement. At worst she will get charged with Involuntary manslaughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deus Mortis View Post
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/minnesota...014849404.html



    So at min she will get fired, there will be a settlement. At worst she will get charged with Involuntary manslaughter.
    What's the problem, everyone gets a little confused sometimes.

    I remember once, instead of getting a squirt-bottle to water the plants at work, I gunned down a dozen coworkers. The ones that were alive were gasping for air because of laughing it up at the mix-up. Or it could have been the punctured lungs idk.

    Anyways mistakes happen, guys lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deus Mortis View Post
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/minnesota...014849404.html



    So at min she will get fired, there will be a settlement. At worst she will get charged with Involuntary manslaughter.
    Again, how do cops keep mistaking their taser for a handgun? The two look and feel very differently, have different weights, and are usually strapped in different locations so that they can't easily mistake one for the other (gun on belt, taser strapped to their leg often times).

    Manslaughter should be the minimum, because this is the kind of gross incompetence and "accident" that literally does kill people.

    Having just watched the video, it's clear that she pulled her sidearm (glock?) and had it point blank pointed at the driver as he was in the car, while her fellow officer was literally right there as well in the way. This is gross negligence and incompetence on her part and she not only deserves to serve time for it, but never work in law enforcement again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    You're going to love it:

    "The officer pulled out his gun, instead of his taser and oops shot him dead."

    No.

    Really.
    Un-fucking believable. Shocking the execution was an "accident". Doubly shocking these "accidents" don't happen to white people who are pulled over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Again, how do cops keep mistaking their taser for a handgun? The two look and feel very differently, have different weights, and are usually strapped in different locations so that they can't easily mistake one for the other (gun on belt, taser strapped to their leg often times).

    Manslaughter should be the minimum, because this is the kind of gross incompetence and "accident" that literally does kill people.

    Having just watched the video, it's clear that she pulled her sidearm (glock?) and had it point blank pointed at the driver as he was in the car, while her fellow officer was literally right there as well in the way. This is gross negligence and incompetence on her part and she not only deserves to serve time for it, but never work in law enforcement again.
    Agreed - 100%. And yet the officer probably won't even get fired.

    (shit - having a problem that it's a "she" - don't ask me why, no good reason)

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    Agreed - 100%. And yet the officer probably won't even get fired.

    (shit - having a problem that it's a "she" - don't ask me why, no good reason)
    Virginia has a police bill of rights, so the officer has extensive protections from administrative punishment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Again, how do cops keep mistaking their taser for a handgun? The two look and feel very differently, have different weights, and are usually strapped in different locations so that they can't easily mistake one for the other (gun on belt, taser strapped to their leg often times).

    Manslaughter should be the minimum, because this is the kind of gross incompetence and "accident" that literally does kill people.

    Having just watched the video, it's clear that she pulled her sidearm (glock?) and had it point blank pointed at the driver as he was in the car, while her fellow officer was literally right there as well in the way. This is gross negligence and incompetence on her part and she not only deserves to serve time for it, but never work in law enforcement again.
    I completely agree. I do see it happening by mistake with adrenaline going through you, but it is just another reason I think our cops need far more training. I would like it being closer to Norway and Finland that require 3 years of training.

    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    Un-fucking believable. Shocking the execution was an "accident". Doubly shocking these "accidents" don't happen to white people who are pulled over.
    Just a quick google search while not being a traffic stop you have https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/15/u...taser-gun.html. The person was white and the cop still got no charges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Already seen people excusing it because, "He had a warrant and was fleeing, he could have been going to kill people!"

    Ignoring that his warrants were for misdemeanor carrying an unlicensed pistol (gonna get the 2nd Amendment types in a bit of a bind, probably) and fleeing police. No violence or any indication that he was a threat to others.

    Oh yeah, and there was a passenger in the car that I don't think has been identified. She apparently suffered only minor injuries, but she could have been seriously hurt or killed by this trigger happy cop.

    We need less cops raised and trained on 80's action movies that thinks the proper response to a suspect fleeing a traffic stop is to just start blastin.
    The whole system needs to be rewritten from top to bottom, with decent pay, high standards, and high levels of ongoing training. It should be a serious profession like being a nurse or a doctor is.

    It currently seems as if they pick a random body off the street, train them for a couple of weeks max, then give them a gun and a badge and let them loose. When they have to make life or death decisions on a daily basis that is asking for trouble.

    Look at how other countries do it, take the best idea's from them, and use those as a model for reform.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deus Mortis View Post
    I completely agree. I do see it happening by mistake with adrenaline going through you, but it is just another reason I think our cops need far more training. I would like it being closer to Norway and Finland that require 3 years of training.
    Training would help, of course - but our law enforcement officers, especially "police officers" need a complete reworking from the ground up. While horribly named, the "defund" movement has the right idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deus Mortis View Post
    Just a quick google search while not being a traffic stop you have https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/15/u...taser-gun.html. The person was white and the cop still got no charges.
    Good example, although it's behind a paywall and is two years-ish old. Anything more recent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    The whole system needs to be rewritten from top to bottom, with decent pay, high standards, and high levels of ongoing training. It should be a serious profession like being a nurse or a doctor is.

    It currently seems as if they pick a random body off the street, train them for a couple of weeks max, then give them a gun and a badge and let them loose. When they have to make life or death decisions on a daily basis that is asking for trouble.

    Look at how other countries do it, take the best idea's from them, and use those as a model for reform.
    It usually takes six months of academy training to become an officer, just fyi - although I agree with you, it's not nearly enough. And the entire mentality needs to be rewritten as well. Much more social service training. Mental health as well.

    Plus - our jails/prisons need to be burned to the ground and rebuilt, with an entire new purpose. But that's another issue, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Virginia has a police bill of rights, so the officer has extensive protections from administrative punishment.
    Minnesota, not Virginia, but it's still still applicable. It'll be a while before there's any formal administrative action unless she doesn't fight it at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    Good example, although it's behind a paywall and is two years-ish old. Anything more recent?
    It should open fine if you open it in incognito with google chrome, and I will try and find something, getting hundreds of hits with this newest shooting with google so I will try bing and duckduckgo real quick.

    Video from the article.
    Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx3hw1qM-T4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokom View Post
    Minnesota, not Virginia, but it's still still applicable. It'll be a while before there's any formal administrative action unless she doesn't fight it at all.
    Oh damnit...right, I'm getting this confused with the incident in Virginia where the guy thankfully wasn't killed...just maced in the face and assaulted by cops who threatened his safety because he didn't have a license plate an the cops apparently are blind and couldn't see his temporary tags after pulling him over in a well lit gas station.

    It's getting difficult to tell these dangerously incompetent fucks apart again, must be getting back to normal : /

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