1. #18581
    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Uhm... these protests are over a death... several actually... are those acceptable or do we have a right to at least protest?
    You do not have the moral high ground to riot to murder people no... a child should be able to grasp that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    More than that. This shit still goes back to when the LAPD beat the fuck outta Rodney King live on camera and got away with it. And even before this. This is lifetimes of injustice.
    So how many unrelated people need to die to tip the scale? Do you have a number in mind or just gonna keep going for a high score?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lost controller View Post
    https://www.fox6now.com/news/deadly-...ests-across-us

    Could you please stop being so utterly vile ? Am I allowed to ask that?
    Uhm... I stopped reading, when they listed a mugging and literally said walking after a protest, on another... those two, back to back, implies you didn’t read the actual article... because you’d be disgusted by how disingenuous and downright repugnant their assertions are.
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  3. #18583
    Quote Originally Posted by uuuhname View Post
    what, like the two people who were shot my Kyle Rittenhouse? do they count?
    No because they decided to try and murder a man and got a taste of what they wanted to serve out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lost controller View Post
    You do not have the moral high ground to riot to murder people no... a child should be able to grasp that.
    You don’t have any ground to asset a moral high ground... take your virtue signaling and shove it right up the assholes who dragged cops into their crowd to beat them with “Blue Lives Mater” flags... you don’t get to link protestors being killed by AltRight, to claim its protestors fault... that’s just fucked.

    So how many unrelated people need to die to tip the scale?
    How many protestors do ya’ll plan to kill? Is this a threat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lost controller View Post
    No because they decided to try and murder a man and got a taste of what they wanted to serve out.
    Then why did you use him as an example of protestor violence, when it’s he who murdered people? He is the murderer...

    How many unrelated people need to die?
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  5. #18585
    Quote Originally Posted by Lost controller View Post
    Do you think if you keep linking the article the date changes or something? How about the reset of the calendar year 2021?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Do you think if you keep linking the article the date changes or something? How about the reset of the calendar year 2021?
    Those include a mugging... several are related to protests, but most have nothing to do with them... I stopped on a guy killed during a mugging...

    Fox News is manufacturing outrage, so these people feel justified in killing protestors.
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  7. #18587
    Quote Originally Posted by Lost controller View Post
    You do not have the moral high ground to riot to murder people no... a child should be able to grasp that.
    the vast majority of the protests were peaceful, and in a lot of cases the violence was a direct result of cops being the instigators of violence. like that time they cleared out Lafayette park where people were peacefully protesting so Trump could do a photo shoot.

  8. #18588
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Do you think if you keep linking the article the date changes or something? How about the reset of the calendar year 2021?
    No but it does show how utterly hollow and vile your views are. Innocent, guilty, to you they are little more then political capital in whatever warped crusade your envision. It is why your quoting part of that post and not all of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Fox News is manufacturing outrage, so these people feel justified in killing protestors.
    Given the bill just signed in Florida, and other similar bills in other states, all that seems to be needed to justify killing them is mildly inconveniencing you as a motorist in your vehicle.

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    Colorado District Judge Natalie Chase has resigned after she admitted using a racial slur in front of court employees, voiced her opinion on racial issues from the bench and asked employees to do personal tasks for her during work hours.

    The Colorado Supreme Court issued an order Friday in which it publicly censured Chase and accepted her resignation. According to the order, it stemmed from accounts from multiple court employees, cited in the order, given as part of an investigation by the Colorado Commission on Judicial Discipline.
    Chase admitted to using the n-word a number of times in early 2020, according to the order, while driving to Pueblo, Colorado, with two court employees -- one of whom is Black.

    "(She) asked the (court employee) questions about why Black people can use the N-word but not white people, and whether it was different if the N-word is said with an 'er' or an 'a' at the end of the word," the order said. "During the conversation, Judge Chase used the full N-word a number of times."

    That wasn't the only time Chase made offensive comments in front of court employees.

    Several days after George Floyd was killed, two Black court employees were talking about the protests that followed.

    "One of them asked the other if they had seen the George Floyd protests," the order says. "Judge Chase then, while wearing her robe and sitting on the bench, told the employees some of her opinions regarding racial justice issues. Judge Chase asked one employee some questions about the Black Lives Matter movement."

    When one of the employees attempted to explain Black Lives Matter, the order says, "Chase stated that she believes all lives matter," but went onto say that, "the conduct of the police officers in the George Floyd matter should be investigated."

    Months earlier, Chase also told two Black employees -- while she was in her robe and sitting on the bench -- she was boycotting the Super Bowl because she objected to NFL players protesting police brutality by kneeling during the National Anthem.
    Scratch an "all lives matter" judge, find a racist piece of shit. Weird that justice seems difficult for people of color when you have judges who don't seem to understand the context around the use of the "N-word", including using the full word in its -er and -a varieties.

    Also, much of this was done while robed and sitting at the bench, which seems like it would be a gross breach of ethics.

    Weird that there may be accusations of racism built into the justice system. Very weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lost controller View Post
    Let's go through the list. Actual facts cited from here; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violen...rotests#Deaths

    David Dorn. Died miles away and hours after the protests in his city, responding to a completely unrelated burglary.

    David McAtee. Killed by National Guard. Police fired pepper rounds into McAtee's restaurant at McAtee and his relatives, for basically no reason, violating department policy to boot. McAtee returned fire, and they killed him.

    Chris Beaty. Shot and killed in the vicinity of protests, but nothing is known about the circumstances. Can't tie that to protesters. Your own source suggests he intervened in a mugging and got shot, which would definitely not relate to the protests.

    Dorian Murrell. Shot by a random guy, who's been charged with murder. Not connected to protesting, appears to have been a personal conflict between strangers, where one of them turned out to be armed and prone to lethal violence.

    Italia Kelly. Random shooting when leaving a protest. If anything, this was someone opposed to the protests shooting at protesters.

    Marquis Tousant. Killed in crossfire in an ambush of an unmarked police vehicle. No direct connection, but I'll grant you might be at 1/6 so far, for tying deaths to protesters.

    Patrick Underwood. Shot at a courthouse while providing security. No connection to protests. The shooters were part of the Boogaloo movement who were in town to murder police, not related to protests in any way.

    Calvin Horton Jr. Shot at a pawn shop. No connection to protests, shooting was a mile away from the protest site.

    James Scurlock. Picked a fight with a bar owner and got shot. Far as I know, it's waiting for a grand jury to review. He was a protester, even if this wasn't part of that. I'll grant you that this could be up to 2/9.

    Javar Harrell. Police state there was no connection to the protests.

    Barry Perkins III. Run over by a FedEx truck fleeing looters. Not killed by protesters.

    Jorge Gomez. Heavily armed and not really connected to the protest. But sure, maybe 3/12.

    Jose Guiterrez. Bystander shot by outside agitators.

    Victor Cazares Jr. Ditto the above.

    Marvin Francois. Killed after a protest by carjackers. Only connected by proximity.

    Of the specific incidents who they can name, only three of the 15 actually point to violence by protesters. The others are either only related by proximity to protests, or are violence against protesters, who were the victims.

    Really failing to make your case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lost controller View Post
    No but it does show how utterly hollow and vile your views are.
    From your link:

    David McAtee

    David McAtee, the 53-year-old owner of a barbecue restaurant was shot and killed on June 1 in Louisville. Police and the National Guard troops were trying to clear a crowd when they heard gunshots and returned fire.
    Chris Beaty

    Chris Beaty, 38, who played football for Indiana University and was known as “Mr. Indianapolis,” was shot and killed on the street in downtown Indianapolis on May 30 during a protest.

    Cops haven’t released information about Beaty’s death.

    Jared Thomas, Beaty's nephew, says the family has been told Beaty was helping two women who were being mugged when he was shot, the Indianapolis Star reported.
    Dorian Murrell

    Dorian Murrell, 18, was fatally shot in Indianapolis the same night as Beaty.

    Cops say the man who shot him, Tyler Newby, 29, told police the shooting happened after he and friend found a gas canister on the ground as they were walking around downtown after the protests.
    That’s 3 of the first 4 on the link you provided... can you please explain how any of these were killed by protestors? Then, explain to me how you are not being whiped into a rage by Fox News, based on lies you can read in your own links?
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    The craziest timeline is jurors delivering down third degree murder conviction, and comments like Waters getting a mistrial declared. She literally traveled to Minneapolis to deliver her remarks about "get more confrontational" if the jury decides wrongly.

    That would be quite a turn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Really failing to make your case.
    His first one was better... literally showing that the vast majority of murder was by those against protestors. Rittenhouse was part of his organically link on killer protestors. His new link seems to be just random people...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    That’s 3 of the first 4 on the link you provided... can you please explain how any of these were killed by protestors? Then, explain to me how you are not being whiped into a rage by Fox News, based on lies you can read in your own links?
    It's literally a list of "everyone who was within a few miles of a protest who died the same day as that protest". And most of the victims were protesters, with most of the killers either unrelated criminals, authorities, or right-wing agitators.

    But sure, blame the protesters, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Scratch an "all lives matter" judge, find a racist piece of shit. Weird that justice seems difficult for people of color when you have judges who don't seem to understand the context around the use of the "N-word", including using the full word in its -er and -a varieties.

    Also, much of this was done while robed and sitting at the bench, which seems like it would be a gross breach of ethics.

    Weird that there may be accusations of racism built into the justice system. Very weird.
    Seriously, finding out a judge harbored racial bias like that should invalidate every single one of their trials where either victim or accused were a person of color. Void every single one of those cases, and allow new trials.

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    ....Not going to lie... slightly annoyed that a certain poster will be unable to respond to Endus's #18595 post.... then again given how the poster had acted the response would most likely have been lacking.

  16. #18596
    Quote Originally Posted by Lost controller View Post
    No because they decided to try and murder a man and got a taste of what they wanted to serve out.
    Bless your little heart. And you think you qualify to judge others on "reality."

    You remind me of one of my fave posters, Kraken.

    And please, learn the difference between the use of "your" and " you're".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post
    As a Minnesotan, she needs to gtfo Minnesota. Yeah, she pissed me off coming up shiwboating with her political bullshit.

    I agree with almost all she stated, but there is a time and place.
    When is that time and place though? Because we're dealing with an ongoing problem where "waiting for the right time and place" hasn't worked. Police departments aren't even breaking a sweat, not in Minnesota or anywhere else. It's the same old bullshit as last year, and the year before, and the decade before that. So people supposed to sit around and wait to be called upon to speak after the fact? When things are just commentary? It doesn't matter what the verdict of this case is except for Floyd because we're likely to have several years of more incidents before actually change comes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post
    When is that time and place though? Because we're dealing with an ongoing problem where "waiting for the right time and place" hasn't worked. Police departments aren't even breaking a sweat, not in Minnesota or anywhere else. It's the same old bullshit as last year, and the year before, and the decade before that. So people supposed to sit around and wait to be called upon to speak after the fact? When things are just commentary? It doesn't matter what the verdict of this case is except for Floyd because we're likely to have several years of more incidents before actually change comes.
    You're not reading the details here - the issue with Maxine Water's comments are the effect they will have on the possible overturn of a conviction, if the jury returns with one.

    No one here is arguing her comments are out of place, they are just terribly timed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    You're not reading the details here - the issue with Maxine Water's comments are the effect they will have on the possible overturn of a conviction, if the jury returns with one.

    No one here is arguing her comments are out of place, they are just terribly timed.
    They are looking for any and all excuses. If not her comments then fear of protests. If not protests then biased jurors. The game is already rigged so who really cares about being civil if it means you have to shut up and not speak your truth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    You're not reading the details here - the issue with Maxine Water's comments are the effect they will have on the possible overturn of a conviction, if the jury returns with one.
    I cannot fathom how there is any possibility of her comments overturning a conviction. I get that it happened with another case, but that's just as batshit. There is no reasonable basis for such an action.

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