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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20...nt-there.shtml

    And South Dakota courts have decided that if the cops absolutely destroy your home in a warrantless search for a suspect that isn't even there, you're just shit outta luck.

    Why? Because I dunno, I guess cops just fucking love legal property damage/destruction. Seriously, if all the folks whinging about antifa damaging private property actually cared about this, they'd be raising hell for the legally protected right of police to dismantle your home for funzies.
    This shit is the kind of thing that needs to get appealed to federal courts, on the basis that the state systems are hopelessly corrupted by their need to work with police. Clearly their decisions can't be treated as reliable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    This shit is the kind of thing that needs to get appealed to federal courts, on the basis that the state systems are hopelessly corrupted by their need to work with police. Clearly their decisions can't be treated as reliable.
    Wouldn't it also fall under violating the Fourth Amendment? I mean this seems to be a larger version of police checking your trunk for no apparent reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain N View Post
    Wouldn't it also fall under violating the Fourth Amendment? I mean this seems to be a larger version of police checking your trunk for no apparent reason.
    If they're "looking for a suspect", the courts likely rule that it constitutes probable cause, meaning no warrant necessary.

    That's part of the bullshit, of course, but that's how you get around the 4th. My point is basically that the federal courts need to act as a check on State malfeasance on things like this.

  4. #19624
    https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/17/us/po...int/index.html

    A committee convened by the AFL-CIO, International Brotherhood of Teamsters and Service Employees International Union Friday approved the plan that calls on more than 250,000 law enforcement members and more than 100,000 members in police-adjacent professions to intervene when another union member is doing something wrong.

    Unions still have a responsibility to represent members they believe are wrongfully accused, but the framework challenges local unions to look at the merits of an officer's actions when considering whether to defend them.

    The program will "empower local union members to speak up and take action if fellow members are violating their professional oath or abusing their power, and ultimately helps the union weed out wrong-doers from union membership," according to the document.

    "We'll represent you, we'll be there for you, absolutely. Unless you don't hold up your end of the bargain," said Lisa Titus, who was part of the committee that wrote this plan. "But we'll also hold you accountable. It is a big shift, and it's going to take some time."

    Officers in these unions have enjoyed near-absolute union solidarity for decades, but a national reckoning over policing, prompted by the deaths of Floyd and Breonna Taylor at the hands of officers, led many to question whether police unions should even exist. A plan produced by the union committee is their attempt to address problems in their ranks without waiting for police department leadership or elected officials to take the lead.

    "This is a huge step for law enforcement to take, and for unions to take," said Fred Redmond, who led the task force that approved this plan. "But at this moment, regarding this profession, I'm not gonna say it's on life support, but we've lost confidence of the public in many areas throughout the country."

    The Fraternal Order of Police, an organization which represents 356,000 members in more than 2,100 lodges across the country, was not involved in developing this plan. John Paul Smith, a United Steel Workers staffer who was a police officer for four years and who worked on this project, said that local FOP leaders' "incendiary rhetoric" made labor's job more difficult over the last year.

    Jim Pasco, executive director of the national Fraternal Order of Police, declined to comment on the plan. "I'm fascinated by this but don't have anything to say about it," he said.
    Not a perfect solution, but more steps being taken towards holding police accountable and pushing for cops to stop protecting bad officers.

  5. #19625
    Haven't seen this posted anywhere else yet and this seems like the appropriate place to put it

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...body-cam-video
    Louisiana state troopers were captured on body-camera video stunning, punching and dragging a Black man as he apologized for leading them on a high-speed chase – footage of the man’s last moments alive that the Associated Press obtained after authorities refused to release it for two years.
    The 2019 arrest outside Monroe, Louisiana, is the subject of a federal civil rights investigation. But unlike other in-custody deaths across the nation where body-camera video was released almost immediately, Greene’s case has been shrouded in secrecy and accusations of a cover-up.

    Louisiana officials have rebuffed repeated calls to release footage and details about what caused the 49-year-old’s death. Troopers initially told Greene’s family he died on impact after crashing into a tree during the chase. Later, state police released a one-page statement acknowledging only that Greene struggled with troopers and died on his way to the hospital.
    The AP last year also obtained a medical report showing an emergency room doctor noted Greene arrived dead at the hospital, bruised and bloodied with two stun-gun prongs in his back. That led the doctor to question troopers’ initial account that Greene had “died on impact” after crashing into a tree.

    “Does not add up,” the doctor wrote.
    This happened 2 years ago...but recently bodycam footage was discovered by a reporter. Be warned, the video is hard to watch at points.


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    Not gonna watch another lynching, seen too much of that shit. Read the article instead. But this was a fuckin lynching, they murdered that man. Every officer there deserves to serve life in prison, it's no wonder the department did their best to cover it up and lie, which implicates everyone at the police department involved in conspiracy.

    This ain't sensational shit. This is how shit would work if the people murdering Greene were anything other than police officers, and their colleagues went to great lengths to cover up the video evidence of their murder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    it's no wonder the department did their best to cover it up and lie, which implicates everyone at the police department involved in conspiracy.
    But it's just a few bad apples, bro.

    Seriously though...lying in a report like that should be an actionable offense. I have no idea how it's justifiable that it's not worth at least losing your job, if not facing some sort of civil/criminal charges for covering up a crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Not gonna watch another lynching, seen too much of that shit. Read the article instead. But this was a fuckin lynching, they murdered that man. Every officer there deserves to serve life in prison, it's no wonder the department did their best to cover it up and lie, which implicates everyone at the police department involved in conspiracy.

    This ain't sensational shit. This is how shit would work if the people murdering Greene were anything other than police officers, and their colleagues went to great lengths to cover up the video evidence of their murder.
    Yeah, this was straight up murder with a full blown-cover up. They sat on that footage for 2 years. They'd still be sitting on it now if this hadn't happened.

    ACAB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    But it's just a few bad apples, bro.

    Seriously though...lying in a report like that should be an actionable offense. I have no idea how it's justifiable that it's not worth at least losing your job, if not facing some sort of civil/criminal charges for covering up a crime.
    Every cop involved in covering this up needs to be fired, barred from ever serving as a police officer ever again and rot in prison for the rest of their lives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Egomaniac View Post
    Haven't seen this posted anywhere else yet and this seems like the appropriate place to put it

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...body-cam-video





    This happened 2 years ago...but recently bodycam footage was discovered by a reporter. Be warned, the video is hard to watch at points.

    I have friends who are black that are more scared of getting pulled over by the cops than getting car jacked. Honestly, after seeing stuff like this, I don't blame them. There's probably thousands of cases like this that were covered up by the cops over the years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egomaniac View Post
    Yeah, this was straight up murder with a full blown-cover up. They sat on that footage for 2 years. They'd still be sitting on it now if this hadn't happened.

    ACAB.
    That's why I'm of the opinion that all police body- and vehicle-camera footage should be made publicly accessible after two weeks. That's enough time to edit footage if there's something relevant to an ongoing case. Said edits in the case of police malice like this would only be justifiable if said officer had already been criminally charged for their actions and the footage was secured for the prosecution's use in court.

    Let the public crawl through those feeds and pull out ANY bad actions they find.

  12. #19632
    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Let the public crawl through those feeds and pull out ANY bad actions they find.
    Man, if they wanted to bring back whatever that shitty Live PD show or whatever, and instead of a bunch of claps on the back for cops it was just watching recently released footage of police incidents for viewers to phone in reports of police abuse and lawlessness, I'd be super down for it.

    Let's crowdsource and gamify police accountability!

  13. #19633
    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    That's why I'm of the opinion that all police body- and vehicle-camera footage should be made publicly accessible after two weeks. That's enough time to edit footage if there's something relevant to an ongoing case. Said edits in the case of police malice like this would only be justifiable if said officer had already been criminally charged for their actions and the footage was secured for the prosecution's use in court.

    Let the public crawl through those feeds and pull out ANY bad actions they find.
    Yeah, and the police department in question is now complaining because releasing the footage like this could "compromise their investigation"....fucking bullshit.

  14. #19634
    Quote Originally Posted by Egomaniac View Post
    Yeah, and the police department in question is now complaining because releasing the footage like this could "compromise their investigation"....fucking bullshit.
    "This makes it incredibly hard for us to investigate ourselves and show that we did nothing wrong!"

    Is basically what they're saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egomaniac View Post
    Yeah, and the police department in question is now complaining because releasing the footage like this could "compromise their investigation"....fucking bullshit.
    They’ve had 2 years with this evidence. Replace them all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/17/us/po...int/index.html



    Not a perfect solution, but more steps being taken towards holding police accountable and pushing for cops to stop protecting bad officers.
    This is THE solution, long term.

    Or at least a huge part of THE solution.

    This is the best news I've read in a long time. It means that people are trying to take general ideas (Black Lives Matter, for example), and turn them into meaningful action. Ultimately, SOMEONE has to step up and call out bad cops. Waiting for them to get videotaped while killing someone is just not efficient or overall effective.

    The worst enemy of a good cop is a bad cop. This gives good cops a chance to fight back. Oh yeah, it will be messy and complicated. So is everything else worth fighting for. And this is concrete positive action that is actually happening.

  17. #19637
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    "This makes it incredibly hard for us to investigate ourselves and show that we did nothing wrong!"

    Is basically what they're saying.
    More like "Oh shit, Now we have to pretend that we were actually investigating this before we once again lie about what actually happened"

  18. #19638
    Not sure if this was posted, but here we go:

    A US jail inmate died gasping for breath minutes after police officers held him face down, with one taunting: "You shouldn't be able to breathe."
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57194883

    Officials have defended their handling of the incident, saying Mr Jennette was "extremely unruly".
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    Two more cops get off for murder.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...mming-n1268143

    But one fewer scumbag elsewhere. Though he's been getting paid for the past 4 years.

    https://kstp.com/news/federal-judge-...6117382/?cat=1

    https://kstp.com/news/st-paul-police...2019-/5564579/
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    do they not teach US cops about positional asphyxia? the first fucking rule here is you get people to their feet ASAP.
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