1. #19781
    How the hell can the Miscarriage case resulting in a conviction of manslaughter.

    "At Poolaw's one-day trial, reported KSWO, the jury was presented with evidence by prosecutors that there was no way to state with certainty that her drug use caused her miscarriage, and both the nurse and the medical examiner noted the fetal abnormalities seen at the autopsy."

    If the prosecution says this, there shouldn't be a trial in the first place... Must be an overzealousn district attorney. Or local elections in few months. So every idiot becomes "Tough on crime".

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    Quote Originally Posted by josykay View Post
    How the hell can the Miscarriage case resulting in a conviction of manslaughter.

    "At Poolaw's one-day trial, reported KSWO, the jury was presented with evidence by prosecutors that there was no way to state with certainty that her drug use caused her miscarriage, and both the nurse and the medical examiner noted the fetal abnormalities seen at the autopsy."

    If the prosecution says this, there shouldn't be a trial in the first place... Must be an overzealousn district attorney. Or local elections in few months. So every idiot becomes "Tough on crime".
    More troubling (I think? there's so much that's batshit and sickening here) is that the fetus wasn't even viable, Native American women have significantly higher rates of stillbirths, and the law under which they prosecuted her wasn't in effect until 6 months after she'd been charged. But she is brown, so.
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    Until then, I honestly don't care about anything else much. Until then it can all burn down to the ground for all I care.
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    Yeah, I think it's fair to conclude that "Fuck the poor" "Arch-angel of Riots" is just in it with the hope of inflicting maximum harm for maximum chaos, and since they've shown no particular attachment to any guiding moral, ideological, or political principle, it seems to be for the sake of maximum fun.

  3. #19783
    Quote Originally Posted by Levelfive View Post
    These two stories came out on the same day: Judge acquits former St. Louis County officer in death of 12-year-old girl

    "Marquart, 27, hit Akeelah while she and her friend crossed the 8900 block of Halls Ferry Road about 5:45 p.m. near the city line with Jennings. An investigation found that Marquart was going 58 mph in the 30 mph zone when he struck Akeelah, throwing her body more than 125 feet down the road. Akeeleh died about a month after being hit."

    https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...6a627748a.html

    "Prosectors in Oklahoma successfully argued to a jury this month that a woman who had a miscarriage was guilty of the manslaughter of her non-viable fetus."

    https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/br...ge-in-oklahoma
    Jesus FUCKING Christ... it's impossible to say cops don't get away with nearly everything just by being cops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uuuhname View Post
    Jesus FUCKING Christ... it's impossible to say cops don't get away with nearly everything just by being cops.
    It's also astonishing we still have people insisting #notallcops when... yes, actually, all cops choose to be part of a corrupt and oppressive system whether actively or through willful ignorance of the impacts of their profession.

    But hey criticising a voluntary and paid profession with enumerated legal privileges that most people don't have is literally as bad broadbrushing racial minorities. /s
    You're not "playing devil's advocate", you're making someone who is likely speaking from personal experience defend themselves against the shitty and oppressive opinion you're too embarrassed to admit you actually believe in. It's you. You're the devil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    It's also astonishing we still have people insisting #notallcops when... yes, actually, all cops choose to be part of a corrupt and oppressive system whether actively or through willful ignorance of the impacts of their profession.
    very much so, when you become a cop you are inducted into this society separate from the rest of society, that becomes your main signifier even if you delude yourself into thinking you're somehow above it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uuuhname View Post
    very much so, when you become a cop you are inducted into this society separate from the rest of society, that becomes your main signifier even if you delude yourself into thinking you're somehow above it.
    Yep. That's why we don't have a 'gay cops' float at Pride.
    You're not "playing devil's advocate", you're making someone who is likely speaking from personal experience defend themselves against the shitty and oppressive opinion you're too embarrassed to admit you actually believe in. It's you. You're the devil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Yep. That's why we don't have a 'gay cops' float at Pride.
    this is pretty "un" related to the topic but I read a story about a NYPD cop who murdered her ex GF's new love interest. it really goes to show no matter the kind of person you are if you're a cop the chances of you perpetrating domestic violence goes up exponentially.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Levelfive View Post
    These two stories came out on the same day: Judge acquits former St. Louis County officer in death of 12-year-old girl

    "Marquart, 27, hit Akeelah while she and her friend crossed the 8900 block of Halls Ferry Road about 5:45 p.m. near the city line with Jennings. An investigation found that Marquart was going 58 mph in the 30 mph zone when he struck Akeelah, throwing her body more than 125 feet down the road. Akeeleh died about a month after being hit."

    https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...6a627748a.html

    "Prosectors in Oklahoma successfully argued to a jury this month that a woman who had a miscarriage was guilty of the manslaughter of her non-viable fetus."

    https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/br...ge-in-oklahoma
    You know, I sometimes think they can't get any worse. Then they do their best to just straight up prove me wrong in the worst ways. The US is just a completely fucked up place. As a country, not just in terms of the justice system and so on. It all feeds into each other. What a shambles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uuuhname View Post
    this is pretty "un" related to the topic but I read a story about a NYPD cop who murdered her ex GF's new love interest. it really goes to show no matter the kind of person you are if you're a cop the chances of you perpetrating domestic violence goes up exponentially.
    40% of Cops is a meme for a reason.
    You're not "playing devil's advocate", you're making someone who is likely speaking from personal experience defend themselves against the shitty and oppressive opinion you're too embarrassed to admit you actually believe in. It's you. You're the devil.

  10. #19790
    New information about the Ahmaud Arbery case, the defendants in the killing of Arbery were told multiple times that their phone calls while in jail would be monitored, and they didn't think the calls could be used in the trial.

    One of the murderers, claimed in one of the phone calls that claimed that "no good deed goes unpunished", claiming that their chasing and killing of Arbery was a good thing.

    https://meaww.com/ahmaud-arbery-case...s-bryan-roddie

    According to a report, Greg tells his brother during one of the calls, "I have been filleted and laid out as a sacrificial lamb. It’s… it’s all political.” Greg asks his brother, “You’ve heard the old saying that no good deed goes unpunished?” to which his brother replies, "That’s a shining example right there.” In one of the calls between the McMichaels couple Leigh and Greg, the latter becomes angry while discussing his daughter's social media posts - one of which had a photo of Arbery's dead body lying on the street.


    In one of the calls made by Travis to his best friend Zack Langford, the former spoke about wanting to be released on bond so he could be present for raising his young son. Langford testified on behalf of Travis during their bond hearing. In one of the calls between Travis and his mother Leigh, the latter was heard preparing her son for the high-profile case, at one time likening it to the media coverage that O.J Simpson's case received. “Oh my God,” Travis said to which his mother replied, "but that's a good thing because they're gonna see facts that's not there that they haven't seen." In another call, Greg said he did a "good deed". The defense said the prosecution will argue that the good deed his client had on mind was killing Arbery. The defense added, Greg referred to his "attempt to conduct a private person's arrest" of Arbery as a good deed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post
    New information about the Ahmaud Arbery case, the defendants in the killing of Arbery were told multiple times that their phone calls while in jail would be monitored, and they didn't think the calls could be used in the trial.

    One of the murderers, claimed in one of the phone calls that claimed that "no good deed goes unpunished", claiming that their chasing and killing of Arbery was a good thing.

    https://meaww.com/ahmaud-arbery-case...s-bryan-roddie
    It's a tough case to prove that he meant killing arbery was the "good deed" when all the defense has to do is say "he meant trying to arrest him"

    Probably be better to play the "he has no remorse for his actions" angle.

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