1. #19921
    https://www.kcur.org/news/2021-09-02...pond-to-audits

    Thankfully not an instance of violent police, but another instance of police not being held accountable. Kansas City PD (in Missouri, not Kansas) were audited in 2016 for their "take home" vehicle policy, which is ostensibly so that officers can respond to emergencies while off their shift.

    Probably is...there's no accountability for it, and the audit which highlighted a number of issues including the fact that we don't know how often these vehicles were even used to respond to emergencies, if they were being used for personal use, or how much the personal use of these vehicles costs local taxpayers.

    The police department is functionally ignoring this, spending years literally not responding to emails seeking further documentation and information that the police department had promised.

    As far as I'm concerned the leadership should have their pay paused until they take this seriously. But hey, I guess when you're a cop, accountability doesn't matter at all.

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    https://www.newsweek.com/after-alleg...him-go-1625999

    Police let violent man go because… they were scared to arrest him? He has a super long history of violent attacks and possible hate crimes oh and people won’t come forward against him because they’re scared and the police…. Let him go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    https://www.newsweek.com/after-alleg...him-go-1625999

    Police let violent man go because… they were scared to arrest him? He has a super long history of violent attacks and possible hate crimes oh and people won’t come forward against him because they’re scared and the police…. Let him go.
    So...a known potential public threat who was suspected of a recent assault...and he gets to just drive away because he wouldn't get outta the car.

    It's real hard to ignore the heavy racial overtones here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    So...a known potential public threat who was suspected of a recent assault...and he gets to just drive away because he wouldn't get outta the car.

    It's real hard to ignore the heavy racial overtones here.
    It kind of reminds me of white all these violent anti-maskers who overtly film themselves breaking laws don't get arrested or typically get any charges. There was just one recently where they were going to try and "citizens" arrest someone and the cops were like "um yeah meh dunno we'll look into it"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    https://www.newsweek.com/after-alleg...him-go-1625999

    Police let violent man go because… they were scared to arrest him? He has a super long history of violent attacks and possible hate crimes oh and people won’t come forward against him because they’re scared and the police…. Let him go.
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    So...a known potential public threat who was suspected of a recent assault...and he gets to just drive away because he wouldn't get outta the car.

    It's real hard to ignore the heavy racial overtones here.
    If I am reading this right it appears they did not want to engage in a vehicle chase.
    He was stopped in his white Chevy truck by police soon after, but reportedly refused to exit his vehicle to be arrested, and eventually simply drove away. At this point, police declined to pursue him.
    In this instance, the choice not to pursue was based on the nature of the alleged crime, the fact that the BPD had identified the alleged perpetrator and felt confident it could locate him again, and an evaluation of the risks of initiating a vehicle pursuit involving a person who has displayed erratic and dangerous behavior in the past."

    Murad said Kaigle was apprehended on Thursday night and would be arraigned Friday.
    Now I would like to see the body cam footage to judge what truly happened.

  6. #19926
    In more news, more charges are being added to the cop that killed Daunte Wright. Minnesota AG Keith Ellison has added a 1st degree manslaughter charge to Kimberly Potter, the cop that shot him with her service weapon instead of a taser when she was saying she went for her taser.

    She got the charge based on this reasoning:
    The newest charge, first-degree manslaughter predicated on reckless use/handling of a firearm, is a felony level charge, with a maximum sentence of 15 years if applied.
    https://www.insider.com/minn-ag-elli...-potter-2021-9

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    https://www.newsweek.com/after-alleg...him-go-1625999

    Police let violent man go because… they were scared to arrest him? He has a super long history of violent attacks and possible hate crimes oh and people won’t come forward against him because they’re scared and the police…. Let him go.
    Pretty strange how police has no problem shooting down other people within seconds if they even suspect they might be violent.

    That said, I think the approach as such was right. They knew who he was and a car chase endangers random citizens who happen to drive by. Just, you know, treat everyone the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twdft View Post
    Pretty strange how police has no problem shooting down other people within seconds if they even suspect they might be violent.

    That said, I think the approach as such was right. They knew who he was and a car chase endangers random citizens who happen to drive by. Just, you know, treat everyone the same.
    Pretty much a perfect example of this though:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.kcur.org/news/2021-09-02...pond-to-audits

    Thankfully not an instance of violent police, but another instance of police not being held accountable. Kansas City PD (in Missouri, not Kansas) were audited in 2016 for their "take home" vehicle policy, which is ostensibly so that officers can respond to emergencies while off their shift.

    Probably is...there's no accountability for it, and the audit which highlighted a number of issues including the fact that we don't know how often these vehicles were even used to respond to emergencies, if they were being used for personal use, or how much the personal use of these vehicles costs local taxpayers.

    The police department is functionally ignoring this, spending years literally not responding to emails seeking further documentation and information that the police department had promised.

    As far as I'm concerned the leadership should have their pay paused until they take this seriously. But hey, I guess when you're a cop, accountability doesn't matter at all.
    KC police suck, but they will never change because the kc police department is controlled by the state, so they use that power to punish KC for being liberal.

  10. #19930
    https://www.local10.com/news/politic...cially-biased/

    A civil rights investigation begun amid outrage over the death of Elijah McClain has found that the Aurora Police Department has a pattern of racially biased policing, Colorado's attorney general said Wednesday.

    Attorney General Phil Weiser said the investigation found the department has long had a culture in which officers treat people of color — especially Black people — differently than white people. He said the agency also has a pattern of using unlawful excessive force; frequently escalates encounters with civilians; and fails to properly document police interactions with residents.

    “These actions are unacceptable. They hurt the people that law enforcement is entrusted” to serve, he said.

    Weiser urged the police department to commit to recommended reforms in officer training, its policies on use of force and especially stricter standards for police stops and arrests. If it fails to do so, he said his office will seek a court order compelling the department to do so — but he noted that the department fully cooperated in the investigation.
    Good shit. Well bad that they uncovered pretty extensive bias, but good that it was uncovered and can start to be addressed. These kinds of reviews need to be more common since it's clear that local police departments are unable to police themselves.

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    Another murderous cop walks free.

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/15/us/mo...ned/index.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masark View Post
    Not quite. The sentence was dropped from murder to manslaughter, which still carried up to a 10 year sentence. He will serve time, just not for as long as he should.

  13. #19933
    Quote Originally Posted by Masark View Post
    He’s gonna be resentenced based on the second degree manslaughter conviction. Not ideal, but he should still serve time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Not quite. The sentence was dropped from murder to manslaughter, which still carried up to a 10 year sentence. He will serve time, just not for as long as he should.
    Less than that. He's looking at 41-57 months.

    Assuming the sentence is right in the middle of that, he'll be out before the end of this year.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...ficer-n1279265

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.local10.com/news/politic...cially-biased/



    Good shit. Well bad that they uncovered pretty extensive bias, but good that it was uncovered and can start to be addressed. These kinds of reviews need to be more common since it's clear that local police departments are unable to police themselves.
    I don’t think it’s news that they “discovered bias” it seems like a waste of time to “discover anti black bias” its basically expected. And as far as doing anything… who knows. These reviews have been happening for decades and yet here we still are.
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  16. #19936
    https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...wsuit-1227414/

    A Philadelphia mom whose child was ripped from her car by police amid a Black Lives Matter protest last year has filed suit against the National Fraternal Order of Police for casting her as an “unfit mother” and exploiting her child for Thin Blue Line propaganda.

    The lawsuit, obtained by Rolling Stone and embedded below, seeks damages for invasion of privacy and intentional infliction of emotional distress. The case stems from a shocking incident of police violence last October, that itself followed the police killing of Walter Wallace Jr., a young Black man experiencing a mental health crisis whom cops shot after he allegedly lunged at them with a knife. That shooting set off mass protests, as well as incidents of vandalism and looting, late into the night of October 26th.

    After midnight, Rickia Young received a phone call from a teenage family friend in West Philadelphia, whom she refers to as her nephew, asking for a ride out of the unrest in the neighborhood. Young, a home healthcare aid who was 28 at the time, put her young son in the car and soon picked up the teenager without incident. But as she drove her usual route home to North Philadelphia, Young found the street was blocked by police and protesters.

    As Young was attempting to execute a U-turn to avoid the tumult, more than a dozen police officers suddenly swarmed around the vehicle. Without provocation, they began smashing the windows of the SUV with baton blows, before yanking both Young and the teenager from the car. (Watch video of the incident here.) Cops proceeded to beat Young in the street until she was bloody, and then detained her. Police separated Young from her child, who was taken into police custody, for hours. Young was later released without charge — because she had done nothing wrong.

    This week, the city of Philadelphia agreed to pay out a $2 million settlement to Young, compensation for having been, in the remarkable words of Philadelphia Police Chief Danielle Outlaw, “terrorized” by cops who “violated the mission of the Philadelphia Police Department.” The city’s mayor, Jim Kenney, denounced the police violence against Young as “absolutely appalling.” Two officers involved in the incident have reportedly been fired, and many others are facing disciplinary proceedings.

    Now, Young is suing the National Fraternal Order of Police — which bills itself as “the number one voice of America’s law enforcement” — in Philadelphia County Court, for its conduct on social media in the aftermath of that incident.

    The NFOP is not strictly a union, as its 350,000 members includes non-union officers. But it wields clout not unlike the NRA: It lobbies Congress on behalf of cops, and gave Donald Trump its “proud” and “enthusiastic” endorsement in 2020, praising his commitment to “law and order.”

    When Young’s child was photographed in the arms of a female police officer, NFOP attempted to turn the image into a PR win for police. As presented in an exhibit appended to the suit, NFOP posted the image to Facebook with the following caption, the particulars of which are fiction:

    This child was lost during the violent riots in Philadelphia, wandering around barefoot in an area that was experiencing complete lawlessness. The only thing this Philadelphia Police Officer cared about in that moment was protecting this child. We are not your enemy. We are the Thin Blue Line. And WE ARE the only thing standing between Order and Anarchy.

    Similar posts were allegedly put out on the NFOP’s Twitter and Instagram.
    Woman assaulted and victimized by Philly PD gets a $2M settlement, which is both not enough and also bullshit because it's getting paid by taxpayers rather than coming out of police pay/retirement (which yes, is also taxpayer dollars, but they've become police dollars and that's where this funding should come from).

    Now she's rightfully suing the National Fraternal Order of Police for lying about the events in question - no a child was not heroically saved by PPD after walking around barefoot during lawless riots, they were taken after police broke into a car and assaulted the mother only to release her without any charges - for straight up lying about the whole situation and impugning her reputation as a mother.

    I hope she fuckin wins, and I hope this cuts deep into the NFOP budgets. Fuck those fascist shitbirds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...wsuit-1227414/



    Woman assaulted and victimized by Philly PD gets a $2M settlement, which is both not enough and also bullshit because it's getting paid by taxpayers rather than coming out of police pay/retirement (which yes, is also taxpayer dollars, but they've become police dollars and that's where this funding should come from).

    Now she's rightfully suing the National Fraternal Order of Police for lying about the events in question - no a child was not heroically saved by PPD after walking around barefoot during lawless riots, they were taken after police broke into a car and assaulted the mother only to release her without any charges - for straight up lying about the whole situation and impugning her reputation as a mother.

    I hope she fuckin wins, and I hope this cuts deep into the NFOP budgets. Fuck those fascist shitbirds.
    Seriously, $2 million in this question is fucking peanuts.

    They attacked her without provocation, for the "crime" of "being black and in the vicinity of a protest".
    They smashed her car up for no reason.
    They arrested her for no reason.
    They kidnapped her child.
    They used her kidnapped child as an advertising tool, both lying about the circumstances egregiously, and without her permission.

    This shouldn't be a seven-figure settlement, it should be eight figures, minimum. It should have resulted in the mass firings of everyone involved, whether the officers who attacked her without cause to anyone involved even tangentially with that horseshit advertising effort. That settlement should have been taken from the pensions of fired officers/staff first, and police budgets second.

    This wasn't just a racist attack, it was slander, it was fraud, it was kidnapping and extortion and a hate crime. This isn't just a few bad cops, this is an organization so corrupt it's acting like an organized crime gang rather than law enforcement.

    I hope her current suit fucking bankrupts the NFOP and causes it to cease to exist as an organization in any respect whatsoever. It's what they fuckin' deserve, for this shit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    This wasn't just a racist attack, it was slander...
    Again, it's libel if it's in print, not slander.

    But carry on.


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