Another "I can't breath" death: Police Reform & Protests in the USA

[s_bushido]

Seems like he was bangin this teen while on the job, meaning he was getting taxpayer dollars to fuck a teenager.

Article says she was 19. That's...not illegal. Nor are you probably going to get very far arguing that it's even wrong..

[DarkTZeratul]

Article says she was 19. That's...not illegal. Nor are you probably going to get very far arguing that it's even wrong..

I think we can all at least agree that fucking anyone while on the job is wrong, unless fucking is your job.

[Edge-]

Article says she was 19. That's...not illegal. Nor are you probably going to get very far arguing that it's even wrong..

She's of legal age, yes. But homeboy is banging chicks while on the job as a cop. Nobody should be having sex on any job, unless you're in porn or something and having sex is literally your job, especially if your paycheck is paid for by taxpayers.

[s_bushido]

She's of legal age, yes. But homeboy is banging chicks while on the job as a cop. Nobody should be having sex on any job, unless you're in porn or something and having sex is literally your job, especially if your paycheck is paid for by taxpayers.

I mean...I've run M+ with someone while they were working. Plenty of people waste time doing shit they're "not supposed to be doing" on someone else's dime. I'm not going to wring my hands over this just because it's sex instead of fucking around in a video game.

[Edge-]

I mean...I've run M+ with someone while they were working.

Which is still plenty unprofessional, but that's an issue for them and their bosses. If they were on the taxpayer dime, that's even worse.

Plenty of people waste time doing shit they're "not supposed to be doing" on someone else's dime.

Taking a slightly long break or running to grab snacks while on the clock is one thing. Taking a break to fuck someone in your community you're supposed to be policing, and planning these fuck-breaks is not good. I'm not sure why you're defending this.

I'm not going to wring my hands over this just because it's sex instead of fucking around in a video game.

He was paid with public tax dollars. He was a law enforcement officer. He is now a state Rep. These people should be held to higher standards as they serve the public. I'd hope that we'd demand at least some basic professionalism from these kinds of folks.

[Twdft]

Article says she was 19. That's...not illegal. Nor are you probably going to get very far arguing that it's even wrong..

Can't read the article in EU but the quote is about 2015 so when she was 19 in 2020... looks illegal to me.

[DarkTZeratul]

Can't read the article in EU but the quote is about 2015 so when she was 19 in 2020... looks illegal to me.

I assume she was 19 in 2015 when this happened, not that she's 19 now, it would absolutely have specified that he was banging a 14-year-old. However, Edge did miss a rather important detail in his quote, or else the article was edited thereafter because this does make it look much worse than a simple on-the-clock booty call:

A Missouri lawmaker allegedly used his position as a cop to receive a “sexual favor” from an intoxicated teenage girl in 2015 and his boss, the Pike County sheriff, is accused of attempting to obstruct a probe as the deputy ran for a seat in the Legislature last year

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I assume she was 19 in 2015 when this happened, not that she's 19 now, it would absolutely have specified that he was banging a 14-year-old. However, Edge did miss a rather important detail in his quote, or else the article was edited thereafter because this does make it look much worse than a simple on-the-clock booty call:

This should be pretty damned simple.

If an officer is found to have used their position to coerce a private citizen into sexual favors of any kind, they should be prosecuted for sexual assault at a minimum, and rape if there's any kind of penetration. With maximum sentences required in either case.

These pigs need to rot in a cell.

[kaid]

She's of legal age, yes. But homeboy is banging chicks while on the job as a cop. Nobody should be having sex on any job, unless you're in porn or something and having sex is literally your job, especially if your paycheck is paid for by taxpayers.

Also a police officer on duty having sex with even a legal teenager seems wildly problematic as a teacher and a student would be.

[Endus]

Also a police officer on duty having sex with even a legal teenager seems wildly problematic as a teacher and a student would be.

Like, I've said I'm a certified teacher, right? Standard procedure province-wide, and I'm pretty sure country-wide but I haven't had the legal talk with legal reps from every provincial jurisdiction, is that the moment the administration has an accustion of sexual impropriety between a teacher and a student, you're suspended. Like, literally just as long as it takes the principal to walk down to your office, knock on your door, and tell you "what the fuck, Endus?"

Doesn't matter if the student's 16 and thus over the age of consent up here. Doesn't matter if they're 18 and emancipated and thus a totally independent adult in their own right. Still immediately suspended and not allowed in a classroom with students, get the hell off campus until this gets worked out.

And that "worked out" bit? I'd better be able to conclusively prove that the claims were fraudulent. Like, if she claims we got it on in my office at 4:30 last Tuesday, I'd better have a reputable witness who can confirm otherwise, preferably with documentation (like we were in a meeting together at the time, and here's both of our notes from the meeting, kind of thing), or ideally video footage of that time period in my office showing nothing happened.

If I can't exonerate myself positively and conclusively? I'm fired and my license to teach is revoked, forever, and any appeals I make are never gonna work because that loss of license is necessary. It doesn't matter how unfair it is to me, no school board can take the risk of putting students in the care and control of a potential predator. I can either prove the student is definitely lying, or I'm donezo.

And that's just . . . standard stuff. That's how it works. Nobody complains about it. At least, nobody who isn't fucking students. It's absolutely necessary to protect students from potential abusers, even if the evidence is skimpy enough to leave some doubt. There needs to be zero doubt in the teacher's conduct.

That police officers, who have far more power over a much wider range of citizens, are somehow held to a less rigorous standard, is baffling and infuriating to me.

[pathora44]

Here is another shining example of the boys in blue totally not abusing their power over citizens.

Last March, West Hazleton, Penn., Police Chief Brian Buglio summoned a man to the police station to deliver an ultimatum, federal prosecutors said.

Either the man could delete Facebook posts he'd made slamming Buglio's management of the department and his officers, and refrain from making any future critical comments - or else Buglio would fabricate felony charges against him.

"I said to Brian, 'Why are you doing this?'" the victim, Paul DeLorenzo, told WNEP. "He goes, 'Well, you like to post fake things and fake stories about me so, I could make up a fake arrest and put you in jail.'"

Now, Buglio, 45, is facing federal charges for allegedly threatening DeLorenzo with criminal charges in retaliation for his social media posts.

Buglio has agreed to plead guilty, according to court documents in the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Pennsylvania. Neither Buglio nor his attorney immediately responded to messages from The Washington Post late Monday.

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Buglio has worked for the rural Eastern Pennsylvania department of four full-time and four part-time officers since 1996, according to the borough's website.

In February 2020 several Facebook posts appeared slamming Buglio and his department in the town of nearly 4,400 residents, federal prosecutors said. (Court documents don't name the victim, but he identified himself to WNEP as DeLorenzo, who lives about 50 miles away in East Stroudsburg, Penn.).

In one of DeLorenzo's posts, he wrote that Buglio had taken too long to make an arrest in a case he was involved with, WNEP reported. DeLorenzo also accused Buglio of committing a violent crime.

When Buglio learned about the posts, he allegedly threatened DeLorenzo over the phone.

"He called me, left me a voice mail, and said that he was going to arrest me for a crime that was being investigated for something I've never even done or had any part of," DeLorenzo told WNEP.

On March 4, Buglio asked DeLorenzo to meet at the precinct, court records state, where he laid out his threats.

"During the meeting, Brian Buglio acknowledged that the threatened felony charges lacked merit," according to the federal complaint.

By the end of the meeting, DeLorenzo agreed to take down the posts from the social media platform and to refrain from posting any other critical messages about Buglio and his force.

Both men shook hands to close the "deal" and parted ways. But DeLorenzo then called the FBI to report the chief's threats, he told WNEP.

Eventually, the case was picked up by the FBI Scranton office's Public Corruption Task Force, which includes officers from the Pennsylvania State Police and the Pennsylvania Attorney General's Office, along with FBI and Internal Revenue Service agents.

On Thursday, federal authorities charged Buglio with one count of deprivation of civil rights. Buglio could face up to one year of imprisonment and a $100,000 fine in the case.

The chief signed a plea deal in April in which he agreed to resign from his position, court records show.

Cout records do not indicate when Buglio is next due in court.

West Hazleton solicitor Chris Slusser told the Times Leader that he could not comment on Buglio's employment at the moment.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/bashed-po...101418808.html

So a police chief got his fwee fwees hurt because a person on social media was criticizing him and his department. So obviously like any person with such great power over a town he acted not like a reasonable law abiding adult who ignored the posts but a power tripping criminal who threatened to arrest the poster with falsified evidence of a felony. Luckily the guy got in touch with the FBI and he was arrested. The bad part is he of course just plead out by resigning and knowing how police work in the U.S. he will probably be hired at a police department at least 3 towns over.

[tehdang]

Here is another shining example of the boys in blue totally not abusing their power over citizens.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/bashed-po...101418808.html

So a police chief got his fwee fwees hurt because a person on social media was criticizing him and his department. So obviously like any person with such great power over a town he acted not like a reasonable law abiding adult who ignored the posts but a power tripping criminal who threatened to arrest the poster with falsified evidence of a felony. Luckily the guy got in touch with the FBI and he was arrested. The bad part is he of course just plead out by resigning and knowing how police work in the U.S. he will probably be hired at a police department at least 3 towns over.

He faces up to a year in prison and $100,000 in fines. Though not fully settled yet, that's a far cry from "just plead out by resigning." He has not been yet sentenced by a judge, and the charging was less than a week ago. So maybe wait just a little longer before forming a conclusion. For all we know, he could receive justice in proportion to his abuse of civil rights and abuse of position.

[postman1782]

So, now there is a new shooting in Kansas City, that is shown in previously unreleased private video from a store clerk.

There is already 4 cops on the dude when a 5th cop comes in, pulls her service weapon, and shoots, but the problem is, she shot a cop with the first shot, then makes up something saying that the shot came from the guy that has 4 guys already on top of him, with no weapon shown, and shoots him twice.

They straight up executed him, just for fucking struggling, they all have fucking tasers and don't use them.

Just FYI, the video shows that the cops shot each other, then executed him, while you may not see blood or the body, it is still NSFW.

https://www.kansascity.com/news/loca...251867448.html

[draynay]

And their story was complete bullshit to cover up murder as usual.

[postman1782]

And their story was complete bullshit to cover up murder as usual.

Oh, absolutely, it was bullshit when they pulled the gun after she shot her co-worker. Especially when she claimed the guy they were trying to arrest, was the one that shot. But I guarantee they didn't even do forensic evidence on the bullet or the guns in the altercation. Guarantee all of them came from the dumb cops gun.

[Edge-]

https://www.opb.org/article/2021/06/...response-team/

All of the officers, sergeants and detectives with the Portland Police Bureau’s Rapid Response Team — the unit responsible for policing protests in the city — resigned from the team together Wednesday night.

Police bureau officials called the move unprecedented.

The resignations from the unit came after news this week that one member of the team, Officer Corey Budworth, would face criminal charges for excessive force used during a racial justice protest last year, and that a second Rapid Response Team member, Det. Erik Kammerer, is being investigated by the Oregon Department of Justice on similar allegations.

Just like when the officers who almost murdered Martin Gugino in Buffalo, the officers were being investigated, and the departments rapid respond team resigned.

[postman1782]

https://www.opb.org/article/2021/06/...response-team/



Just like when the officers who almost murdered Martin Gugino in Buffalo, the officers were being investigated, and the departments rapid respond team resigned.

They have no backbones, if they don't rat out their co-worker for assaulting someone, then they are all bad, fuck em.

[PhaelixWW]

https://www.opb.org/article/2021/06/...response-team/

All of the officers, sergeants and detectives with the Portland Police Bureau’s Rapid Response Team — the unit responsible for policing protests in the city — resigned from the team together Wednesday night.

Police bureau officials called the move unprecedented.

The resignations from the unit came after news this week that one member of the team, Officer Corey Budworth, would face criminal charges for excessive force used during a racial justice protest last year, and that a second Rapid Response Team member, Det. Erik Kammerer, is being investigated by the Oregon Department of Justice on similar allegations.

Just like when the officers who almost murdered Martin Gugino in Buffalo, the officers were being investigated, and the departments rapid respond team resigned.

Like rats from a sinking ship...

"Wait, you're going to hold us accountable?! Gotta go!" <Benny Hill theme>

[Kellhound]

https://www.opb.org/article/2021/06/...response-team/



Just like when the officers who almost murdered Martin Gugino in Buffalo, the officers were being investigated, and the departments rapid respond team resigned.

Yes, how dare they resign from a position that paid them no extra, where they had no support from the mayor or city council, and where they knew it was more likely they would be charged by the DA than the protestors destroying downtown... Honestly, it is amazing Portland can even find people willing to be on the force. Its just like how the city government was shocked that only 3-4 officers put their name in for consideration to being posted to a new anti-gun task force.

[PhaelixWW]

Yes, how dare they resign from a position that paid them no extra, where they had no support from the mayor or city council, and where they knew it was more likely they would be charged by the DA than the protestors destroying downtown...

I mean, they could just... not break the law and then they wouldn't be charged, amiright?

Having broken the law and then been charged with the offense, they're still ahead of the people who were victims of police shootings, because they didn't get shot, as well.

Also, your math doesn't check out. Only one officer among the 50 has been charged. That's 2%. Some 10% of the 1000+ protesters in Portland have had charges filed. A batch of more than 2 dozen more people were charged just a few weeks ago.