Bohoo, been away for ages and wants to be on par with everyone else instantly. I always love the excuse "i am a pvper, i dont do quests" though.
Bohoo, been away for ages and wants to be on par with everyone else instantly. I always love the excuse "i am a pvper, i dont do quests" though.
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I like how this was a thinly veiled "WoW is dying" thread or at least that's where the OP ended up.
Also, stop comparing shit to Wrath and Cata. That shit originally came out 12 years ago. Game design changes in time. Whether or not you stick around for the changes, is up to you. WoW is not "dead" or "dying." It will go f2p way before that and sustain itself with content patches and microtransactions for many years to come. Especially with an IP as strong as Warcraft.
PvP and PvE should be largely separate. A player can enjoy both, but often players lean much more towards enjoying one rather than the other. Forcing people to do both only cause people to lose interest.
Imagine if the game forced everyone to PvP. But it doesn't, does it? PvE'rs would have a field day crying about that.
What are you even talking about. This absurd shit we have is only since Legion. Even the WoD ring or the MoP cloak was more bearable. And then not to forget how you could target your pvp gear and buy exactly what you needed. Not to mention how we didn't have this many difficulty, and powercreep before. A fresh level 120 has 90k hp. A char in 385 benthic has roughly 200k. Now people are running around with 500k hp. Crazy. Last patches usually let go a lot of requirements and just let people come back, get gear and roflstomp anything. This shitshow? Level your neck, get your cloak, level your cloak, get gear, get corruption, get essences.
How can anyone with a straight face even suggest that this is usual?
Even in Legion, you did one or two world quests, and your weapon was fully unlocked.
i tried to unlock the cloak on my alts, cuz "free cloak", right? Even on my main it was a borefest. I am one who loves some lore and questiong but this I swear was meticulously designed to be just as annoying as it could be. You can skip some of it on alts, but not too much.
But like for reals, what has happened to the quest department? The first time I've noticed this was the lightforged draenei unlock quest line. The dark iron dwarf is even worse.
Last edited by Lei; 2020-05-27 at 04:48 AM.
In wod to do what he wants to do took a few hours in ashran collecting fragments and doing side events. If your side was winning, even better. Then it took some hours of 2vs2 arena to get the better conquest gear as the conquest catch up was in place. The lfg tool made finding groups easy.
Compare that to how it is now.
The 3 dh spec is increíble.
It's not as bad as you are making it out to be. And once you get your cloak you can skip a bunch of the scenarios if you do it on an alt. My brother has no rank 3 essences and on several toons just leveled in pvp and geared up there except for world quests.
And it's not like you haven't always needed somewhat decent gear to have any chance in pvp.
You skipped two content patches... and expect the game to remain the same? If you stop playing the game, you'll fall behind, and have to catch up. That's a fact. You can't stop playing at 8.1, and still expect perform as well as you did back then, now at patch 8.3.
And what the hell do you need to do that requires "ten to fifteen hours, or more, of play time"?
Im having a similar issue as somebody who just resubbed after launch fail. It seems like all I can do is daily quests for weeks to actually get somewhere else than buying boosts. Out of instance content requires flying. Thats hundreads of daily quests. In instances I do about 50% dmg of ppl with the same gear because I dont have the proper essences and corruptions. Sounds like few dozens or hundreads of dailies again. PvP is beyond retarded clown fiesta because for some reason blizz thought the corruptions and essences are fine for pvp. I guess I farm dailies instead of fighting the enemy again. My char cant do sh*t against actually geared ppl. Bgs are obviously joke. It looks like every pve player afks bgs for the essences...I dont understand how this state of the game is tolerated for blizzard.
Last edited by Nikeyla; 2020-05-27 at 05:45 AM.
It's because blizzard lost their direction when it came to ingame systems. They had a clear cut path when it came to story, but mechanically they lost their way. Azerite traits was a bust, essences was a bust and the overall system involving the cloak is a bust. It's like they're out of touch with what works and doesn't. Legion had similar grind systems and they were fine. How do they then create multiple grind systems in BFA that all suck?! They dropped the ball when it came to in game mechanics.
Most likely the wisest Enhancement Shaman.
If you dont wanna be behind, dont quit. Otherwise, dont come back until a new expansion.
Then play Call of Duty if you want Call of Duty character progressing. Since WoW is not Call of Duty, it does require you to actually play the game to be competitive, and PVP is not WoW. It's a side distraction and always has been, and you need to do some PVE content to be competitive. Just like you always have.
Game has been dying since before Vanilla I think, probably since WC2. If you had one Azerite for every time this nonesense gets repeated you'd be done with that grind already!
That is the idea of an MMO. It is supposed to provide long-term goals that you keep working on. You are never "done", especially if you are interested in expanding your characters power. And no, there is absolutely no need to play 5 hours every day, but you also cannot expect to stay away for 1,5 years and now be handed everything on a silver plate.
There are more then enough catch up mechanics, but you won't just be supplied with everything because in your endless grace and mercy you deigned to log in again. The game does not wait for you and does not revolve around you. If doing a few quests is is too much to ask then go play Overwatch or Fortnite. The game will survive your absence.
Actually, it sounds very much like YOU want to feel special and demand that because you only care about PvP everything should be given to you for free.
And your point makes absolutely no sense, adding things for people to do is "unhealthy for the game longevity"? So less content is keeping people subbed? That is one ridiculous theory there. Just because you do not care for any content in the game besides beating up people in PvP does not mean that goes for everyone, content draughts never make people happy.
We are at the moment at the end of the expansion, a certain drop in numbers is completely expected. The last raid is done, not much left to do but M+ and gearing alts while everyone is playing the waiting game for the prepatch of SLs, so of course this is the time where people take breaks and play other games.
Believe it or not all of this has happened before and will happen again. The game will not die, no matter how much you wish for it in your tantrum.
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Look up how to get the Essence "Blood of the Enemy" on Wowhead, then check how many classes use that as a BiS Major or at least Minor for PvE content.
Otherwise, it doesn't because PvP is not the games focus and never will be. PvE is.
Last edited by Raisei; 2020-05-27 at 06:54 AM.
I leveled a new toon, and took me about 2 1/2 weeks to get 450+ and get into+10s