Minneapolis protests

[Zaktar]

I guess we could just compromise that we should at least arrest the people that incited the riot. Should be the best way to go from here.

So that means the police that started teargassing and the actors who smashed the windows.

Yeah this. The hemming and hawing over the protestors' tactics is absurd next to the clear documented reality of how the situation escalated.

[PosPosPos]

Expecting people to not destroy shit it's right wing now.? Come on ypu claimed i was right wing. I'm still waiting for proof you make the claim. You back it up.

No, the nationalist, racist and homophobic inclinations you hold are right wing. But I do forgive you for forgetting what you have just said right just in this thread, since we have all established you have a terminal case of anterograde amnesia.

[Elegiac]

Expecting people to not destroy shit it's right wing now.? Come on ypu claimed i was right wing. I'm still waiting for proof you make the claim. You back it up.

Thinking that maintaining civic order is a higher priority than either welfare or life is a textbook right wing viewpoint.

Better litmus test, does this song offend your ears?

[downnola]

Thinking that maintaining civic order is a higher priority than either welfare or life is a textbook right wing viewpoint.

Better litmus test, does this song offend your ears?

Taking the position that property is more important than life and/or justice is a textbook right-wing position as well. Which is why it's really weird that the "right" in this country mythologizes throwing 1.5 million dollars worth of tea into the Atlantic ocean.

[Doctor Amadeus]

Memery aside, there are limits to how funny this sort of nonsense gets because, let's not forget.

All of the doublethink, lying, strawmanning, logical fallacies, misrepresentation, what have you are all mechanisms of oppression, in this context.

Well yes but I see it as simpler than that but honestly I give credit to anyone with patience trying to explain it I To people too fucking stupid to get it. And stupidity is a choice it’s not ignorance.

Oppression is not people being nice enough or as nice as other people think.

Oppression is about position of ability. Anyone of those cops could have told that officer to let him up. Meanwhile a block full of bystanders saying the same thing got ignored and That’s privilege.

People with the free right to exist and be visible with their love in the same capacity as another is the same thing.

But as I said these people choose not to get it and think acting the loudest is going to be credible.

The next thing you know billionaires and celebrities will march once they decided they are being oppressed.

Maybe super models feel oppressed by ugly people.

Oppression isn’t a matter of perspective it’s a matter of reality.

[Freighter]

Thinking that maintaining civic order is a higher priority than either welfare or life is a textbook right wing viewpoint.

Doesn't mean someone is right wing just because they don't think people should smash other peoples stuff.

[Elegiac]

Doesn't mean someone is right wing just because they don't think people should smash other peoples stuff.

Not always. Just in this context.

[Freighter]

Not always. Just in this context.

No, if you had people smashing your stuff you wouldn't just be like /shrug, oh well, this should be tolerated.

[Doctor Amadeus]

Nope, but not my genre of music. I prefer rock or video game music. Order being maintained benefits everyone. Covid19 should've tought you that

Which order? Your order that says murder is ok lol imagine that.

What if UPS drivers just went around murdering people. I’m sure nobody would have a problem with that happening with little or no response from the justice department.

But omfg someone think of Target.

[Elegiac]

Nope, but not my genre of music. I prefer rock or video game music. Order being maintained benefits everyone. Covid19 should've tought you that

Lol, what.

Nothing about COVID-19 has shifted me any further in support of a militarized police state. In fact, after seeing how cops behaved when confronted with an armed gang descending on government property, I really am running out of reasons to give a shit about the police.

Calling them to protect my property? They might kill an innocent bystander. I'd rather be out a television than be complicit in my black or latino neighbour getting shot.

Calling them to stop a crime in progress? Well thanks to SCOTUS they aren't required to do that even if they observe one, so. No guarantee there.

All of the other "public emergency" shit merits the Fire Department, not the pigs.

So, it begs the question...what are cops good for in this country?

[Doctor Amadeus]

It's quite hilarious watching people on internet arguing about where someone is on the political scale as if it matters where someone thinks they are.

I think it’s hilarious you are one of the main people crying about people not being as nice as you think they should be as oppression.

Just imagine someone poor said hello to you and nobody was there to stop it.

[Elegiac]

No, if you had people smashing your stuff you wouldn't just be like /shrug, oh well, this should be tolerated.

What a coincidence, I literally just answered this.

Calling them to protect my property? They might kill an innocent bystander. I'd rather be out a television than be complicit in my black or latino neighbour getting shot.

It is that bad. I feel safer and generally better not calling the police than doing so.

[PosPosPos]

So, it begs the question...what are cops good for in this country?

Legal domestic terrorism? You are better than this bro, asking questions with obvious answers, even for someone like Saninicus.

[Freighter]

What a coincidence, I literally just answered this.

It is that bad. I feel safer and generally better not calling the police than doing so.

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No, you didn't answer it.

[Doctor Amadeus]

Doesn't mean someone is right wing just because they don't think people should smash other peoples stuff.

No it typically does and full of shit. Man was murdered won’t someone think of Walmart’s stuff.

[Elegiac]

No, you didn't answer it.

I did. I would rather be out a few grand of personal items than risking be complicit in my neighbours getting shot by calling the police.

[Altrec]

Question.

Why do you feel the need to conflate your criticism of looting with questioning the existence the system of the oppression?

I know the answer is because you're trying to do everything possible to make these protesters out as illegitimate because public order is more important than black lives, but humour me.

And sweetie, nobody gives a shit about your support "vanishing" because as I said - banging on about the conditions for your empathy just broadcasts you had exactly zero to spare in the first place. You're a lost cause.

Buttercup you seem to be projecting. Having empathy for people that are having their lives upended/destroyed but have absolutely nothing to do with this situation other than living and working in the general vicinity of something tragic/outrageous that happened is not the sign of someone who lacks empathy. There is plenty of empathy to go around for those that deserve it, but the looters and arsonist are not among those that deserve it.

[Freighter]

I did. I would rather be out a few grand of personal items than risking be complicit in my neighbours getting shot by calling the police.

You wouldn't just go all /shrug if people smashed your stuff. I know you wouldn't.

[Elegiac]

Legal domestic terrorism? You are better than this bro, asking questions with obvious answers, even for someone like Saninicus.

I thought ICE had the legal domestic terrorism aspect covered? Or, no...they're the Gestapo, I forgot. Silly me.

[Doctor Amadeus]

No, you didn't answer it.[/QUOTE]


Just because you reject the answer doesn’t mean you didn’t get one or they’re obligated to give you the one you like.