Biden's Problematic Record

[Louisa Bannon]

I am disappointed at two things here:
1. I am pretty sure most of you are not reading any of those links, but basically just shitposting your opinions.
2. many of you are simply making personal attacks on me or what I might do.

Some bright spot thinks I am trying to discourage voting more generally, instead of clearly and merely documenting the political record of one specific politician. If people choose not to vote, or to vote however they prefer, that's up to them entirely and has nothing to do with me.

This precise moment in time cannot be fixed by Biden, he is the least capable and least interested candidate to do so. If someone had told me previously that a Democratic candidate for president would shoot down Medicare for All in the middle of an actual pandemic, I would not have believed it. And yet here we are.

Those links in the OP are an attempt to show how long and dissatisfying is the record of Joe Biden. That's not my fault. It's his.

[Felya]

I mean Trump is so stupidly blatant when he thinks he is playing 3D chess about Bernie voters should not vote.

The depressing part that it’s just trolling, not some scheme. All he did and his supporters followed, is just troll Bernie supporters and well... you see...

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Those links in the OP are an attempt to show how long and dissatisfying is the record of Joe Biden. That's not my fault. It's his.

We know

How many times do you have to be told? Until you start explaining how Trump is the same or even better, you are not addressing why people are voting Biden. Because you don’t care.

You are ignoring the reason, the quality of Biden, that is making people vote for him, knowing his past. Explain why Trump is the same or better.

With these many links I am attempting to suggest that Biden is easily as bad if not actually worse than Trump, which is sad if you think about it.

Tell us why Trump is misunderstood, to make people who know Biden history, to still vote to stop Trump. Sell us Trump being like Biden...

[Draco-Onis]

I am disappointed at two things here:

Let me guess one of them is that you can only vote for Trump once in 2020.

[Felya]

Let me guess one of them is that you can only vote for Trump once in 2020.

No, it’s better to ignore the actual reason people keep stating. No, it’s more helpful to the ego, to ignore and then conclude people are just not reading... don’t know... as if the enlightenment point hasn’t been stated numerous times.

[Evielution93]

Some bright spot thinks I am trying to discourage voting more generally, instead of clearly and merely documenting the political record of one specific politician. If people choose not to vote, or to vote however they prefer, that's up to them entirely and has nothing to do with me.
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This is disingenuous and I think you know it. "Oh, I'm not SAYING that people shouldn't vote for this person, but I am putting forward all the reasons they should not vote for this person while ignoring the most vital reason they should."

Still nothing from you on the thing that actually matters, the supreme court nomination, and if Biden would bring in someone as damaging as we've seen Trump bring in. Or are you a single issue voter and you think that Medicare for all is the only thing america needs? It's incredibly important, of course, but it's kinda weird that is the only part of all your links you keep bringing up.

[Felya]

Still nothing from you on the thing that actually matters, the supreme court nomination, and if Biden would bring in someone as damaging as we've seen Trump bring in. Or are you a single issue voter and you think that Medicare for all is the only thing america needs? It's incredibly important, of course, but it's kinda weird that is the only part of all your links you keep bringing up.

While Biden’s disagreement with medicare for all, is purely financial. With Trump, you get nothing. With Biden, you get medicare for all and it will pass Congress, if it’s financially viable. Even his link doesn’t say Biden will veto it, but veto it if the cost is not sustainable.

Edit: Even as we are being called rapists, notice that @CommunismWillWin is silent about someone just saying that Trump might be better. Not a peep from him... no insults about Trump NDAs, out of court settlements and ruining the many women that have accused him. Not... a... peep...

[JohnBrown1917]

Let me guess one of them is that you can only vote for Trump once in 2020.

Yeah, we get it, only Trump supporters would dare to critize your god-lord Biden.

[Felya]

I am pretty sure most of you are not reading any of those links, but basically just shitposting your opinions.

I have a challenge for you... I want you to explain why people shouldn’t vote Biden, but instead of pretending we don’t know his history, explain how Trump might be the same or better. I want you to address the point people are making, by explaining how what Trump is doing, is totes acceptable.

[Louisa Bannon]

"Oh, I'm not SAYING that people shouldn't vote for this person, but I am putting forward all the reasons they should not vote for this person while ignoring the most vital reason they should."

Uh no, I think I am saying I am not voting for him nor do I understand why anyone else would either. But I am still not suggesting that people not vote. Everyone should vote for whomever they wish, as is their right.

To those hoping I will try to show how great a president Trump has been, well keep hoping because that's demonstrably not true. A lot of what many of you complain of in terms of Trump's record he did with bipartisan support from congress. That should be sobering to you, but I know it's not.

[Felya]

Yeah, we get it, only Trump supporters would dare to critize your god-lord Biden.

No, you don’t get it. People can tell you a million times that it has nothing to do with Biden being the preferred candidate. Sorry, if you read the posts in this thread, to claim people worship Biden, you are not reading. You don’t care about the truth. You just want to bitch...

[Felya]

Uh no, I think I am saying I am not voting for him nor do I understand why anyone else would either. But I am still not suggesting that people not vote. Everyone should vote for whomever they wish, as is their right.

Explain how Trump would be the same or better. I refuse to believe that after so many people explain, numerous times, you don’t understand. Don’t buy it... you do understand...

To those hoping I will try to show how great a president Trump has been, well keep hoping because that's demonstrably not true. A lot of what many of you complain of in terms of Trump's record he did with bipartisan support from congress. That should be sobering to you, but I know it's not.

Like what? Finally getting somewhere...

Are republicans blocking a vote on violence against women act, bipartisan? Is Trump defunding ACA, WHO, CDC and pandemic response team, bipartisan? Was the Muslim ban? The wall? The tax cut? The demand to cut section 230?

[Evielution93]

Uh no, I think I am saying I am not voting for him nor do I understand why anyone else would either.

Because we are going to need to have supreme court nominations soon, or hope Ruth Ginsburg stays in good health for another four years, and another Brett Kavanaugh would be more long term damaging than anything Biden could possibly do.

[Felya]

Probably because you're not completely hopeless.

Just to clear this up... I have no issue discussing communism on its merits. Been called a communist on this forum, simply for addressing communism logically, instead of just McCarthiesm. I only do it in response to him, in hopes to show that insulting people based on association, doesn’t help him... at all... like an alt right meme of those murdered by communists. His browbeating calling people racist, is no different...

[Acidbaron]

I am disappointed at two things here:
1. I am pretty sure most of you are not reading any of those links, but basically just shitposting your opinions.
2. many of you are simply making personal attacks on me or what I might do.

Some bright spot thinks I am trying to discourage voting more generally, instead of clearly and merely documenting the political record of one specific politician. If people choose not to vote, or to vote however they prefer, that's up to them entirely and has nothing to do with me.

This precise moment in time cannot be fixed by Biden, he is the least capable and least interested candidate to do so. If someone had told me previously that a Democratic candidate for president would shoot down Medicare for All in the middle of an actual pandemic, I would not have believed it. And yet here we are.

Those links in the OP are an attempt to show how long and dissatisfying is the record of Joe Biden. That's not my fault. It's his.

Still awaiting what actually attracts you to and what core believes the green party embraces, should i give you an hour to google this so you fabricate an answer?

[Felya]

@Louisa Bannon Just in case your struggling with so many replies, I’ll just highlight this again:

Are republicans blocking a vote on violence against women act, bipartisan? Is Trump defunding ACA, WHO, CDC and pandemic response team, bipartisan? Was the Muslim ban? The wall? The tax cut? The demand to cut section 230?

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Still awaiting what actually attracts you to and what core believes the green party embraces, should i give you an hour to google this so you fabricate an answer?

Because the first result will tell you, that they don’t know who their candidate is. There is also the chance Jesse “the body” Ventura will enter the picture, as he has been musing about it. He might be saying that Jesse “the body” Ventura is the man to get behind.

@Louisa Bannon can you explain why Biden supporting medicare for all if it’s affordable, is worse that Trump’s “extreme liberals trying to take your healthcare”? Why isn’t Biden lying that he supports it without caring about cost?

[Louisa Bannon]

Because we are going to need to have supreme court nominations soon, or hope Ruth Ginsburg stays in good health for another four years, and another Brett Kavanaugh would be more long term damaging than anything Biden could possibly do.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg defends Kavanaugh, Gorsuch as 'very decent and very smart'
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/26/polit...uch/index.html

What's the problem, son?

[Acidbaron]

@Louisa Bannon Just in case your struggling with so many replies, I’ll just highlight this again:



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Because the first result will tell you, that they don’t know who their candidate is. There is also the chance Jesse “the body” Ventura will enter the picture, as he has been musing about it. He might be saying that Jesse “the body” Ventura is the man to get behind.

I am questioning the entire honesty of his statement, because otherwise this thread would be about the benefits of voting for green rather than how voting for Biden is bad. Because when you are in support of something you advocate it, you don't advocate not voting.

Rather transparent.

[Felya]

Ruth Bader Ginsburg defends Kavanaugh, Gorsuch as 'very decent and very smart'
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/26/polit...uch/index.html

What's the problem, son?

Your issue is civility? You need to show how democrats choices are worse. Who was Obama nominating for Scalia spot, before GOP blocked it?

[Louisa Bannon]

Still awaiting what actually attracts you to and what core believes the green party embraces, should i give you an hour to google this so you fabricate an answer?

Dude, I don't take homeworks assignments from random strangers.

Further, I don't think I should have to defend my insistence on the importance of a national health service to someone in Belgium that already enjoys such a service in his own country. You don't know what the U.S. is going through right now and I do.

[Felya]

I am questioning the entire honesty of his statement, because otherwise this thread would be about the benefits of voting for green rather than how voting for Biden is bad. Because when you are in support of something you advocate it, you don't advocate not voting.

Rather transparent.

You can tell by what he chooses to respond to. He states his reactionary opinion, but when called out, he doubles down on an assumption that is contradicted by most posts in this thread. When he actually dips his toe into the reason people are stating, he doesn’t seem to want to discuss that.

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Dude, I don't take homeworks assignments from random strangers.

Further, I don't think I should have to defend my insistence on the importance of a national health service to someone in Belgium that already enjoys such a service in his own country. You don't know what the U.S. is going through right now and I do.

I’m not from Belgium... why not tell us about the bipartisan support in Trump’s dismantling of healthcare through executive orders?

Was leaving the Paris accord and Iran peace treaty, bipartisan? Was legalizing aspestos, bipartisan?