1080 - 2k or 4k

[Ghostpanther]

Reminds me of the words from a old song,,," Love the one you are with ". I have a 1080p monitor and am happy with it. So clearly that is my choice, because it is not capable of any resolution higher than that and I am content using it.

[Skorpionss]

For 2070 Super I'd choose 4k, I think there is a pretty big difference in fidelity between 1440p and 4k, but if you care about FPS more than how it looks 4K will be a big drain on it. For me 60FPS is enough so I'm okay with pushing for 4k, since with a 2070 Super you should get 60fps in most games I think. And also you can adjust resuloution/resolution scales in most games to increase the FPS.

[Azerox]

I've recently updated my rig and I bought a Ryzen 3900X paired with a 2070 Super. I've a 144hz 1080 curved monitor and I was wondering if its worth it to buy a 2k or 4k monitor to play almost only World of Warcraft? What do you think guys?

For WoW sure 4k.

I play with a 2600x (4.3ghz) and 2070RTX (OCédl) on 4k (43inch) and have 60FPS+ most of the time.
Lowest i might have seen is 45 when full raid and ultra settings + everyone popping their cooldowns.
It is just amazing how good WoW looks on 4k, expecialy on such a big screen. It is visualy a new game to me.

Random 4k screen i just made.

[Jonnusthegreat]

But you cannot take a word from some other industry and change the meaning. That would be like me pointing at a car and calling it a horse carriage. It will just needlessly confuse people.

And yes, 2 is half of 4, but that's only on 1 axis, so you'd need someone that's half the resolution on both axis's, which is 1080p. It's called 4k because 3840/4096 is kinda close to 4000. 2560 is pretty fucking far from 2000, 1920/2048 is kinda close though.

This is a gaming forum. You're taking a term gamers use and replacing its definition with a term from a different industry.

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Uhh... no it isnt. 1920 is half of 3840. 1080 is half of 2160.

So if your 'argument' is that "its like half of 4k" - that'd be 1080p.

2560 is 2/3 of 4k. Not half. 2/3 is substantially more than half.

"4k" is itself not really a term except in cinema.

The -actual- term is UHD. (Ultra HD).

720p is HD - used for TVs, but not for monitors (which actually use 1366x768
1080 is HFD ("Full" HD) - used for TVs and monitors (killing the 1920x1200 standard)
1440p is QHD ("Quad" HD - as UHD is 4x 1920x1080, QHD is 4x 720p) - and was never used for TVs.
2160p is UHD - used for TVs and displays; mistakenly called "4K" because of TV marketing.

the two "K" terms (2K and 4K) are only used in cinema, and some brainlord in TV marketing decided to call UHD "4K" for marketing, even though it isnt 4k. 4096 x 2160 is "real" 4K.

if you want to refer to 2560x1440 in some kind of shorthand, then just use 1440p or QHD.

1080p is 1/4 of 4k. And the Ks are used in more than just cinema. That is where it started, but it's not all it represents. Like I said, this is a gamer forum, and people are using it. They aren't incorrect.

Just literally google it.

[Asmekiel]

This is a gaming forum. You're taking a term gamers use and replacing its definition with a term from a different industry.

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1080p is 1/4 of 4k. And the Ks are used in more than just cinema. That is where it started, but it's not all it represents. Like I said, this is a gamer forum, and people are using it. They aren't incorrect.

Just literally google it.

4k is called that because of the horizontal pixels. 2560 isn't half of 3840 or 4096. Neither is 1440 half of 2160. Even 3686400 isn't half of 8294400.

1920 is half of 3840 though, 2048 is half of 4096 and 1080 is half of 2160.

People are also calling Blu-Ray "DVD", doesn't suddenly make it so.

[pansertjald]

For 2070 Super I'd choose 4k, I think there is a pretty big difference in fidelity between 1440p and 4k, but if you care about FPS more than how it looks 4K will be a big drain on it. For me 60FPS is enough so I'm okay with pushing for 4k, since with a 2070 Super you should get 60fps in most games I think. And also you can adjust resuloution/resolution scales in most games to increase the FPS.

No, just no...... No even a RTX 2080 ti can do this in all games

[willtron]

1440p every time. Looks amazing and you can still get 120fps+ in games. I have an Acer Predator XB271, at 165Hz and 1440p its a solid choice for virtually every game I play.

[Jonnusthegreat]

No, just no...... No even a RTX 2080 ti can do this in all games

I have a 2080 and I do 4k 60fps in all games I play on ultra. Rarely drops to 30 in intense battle scenes.

[mauserr]

1440p144hz is literally the best. 4k is not worth it, way overhyped.

I have a 2080 and I do 4k 60fps in all games I play on ultra. Rarely drops to 30 in intense battle scenes.

Exactly, all games you play. Not all modern games (I'm thinking latest AAA) titles will run max details 4k60fps on 2080 Ti. Just no, and that's a fact, you can't deny that.

[Skorpionss]

No, just no...... No even a RTX 2080 ti can do this in all games

Hence why I said most games, not all games... even my old ass 1080 can do 4k60fps in some games, others I just drop resolution scaling by up to 50% (which would make it equal to 1440p.)

[Temp name]

This is a gaming forum. You're taking a term gamers use and replacing its definition with a term from a different industry.

Yes, I take a definition and use it as it is defined and want other people to use it as such.

[Skorpionss]

What I can say as someone who has used 4k monitors every day for around 5 years, and also a 1440p monitor as my own personal monitor every day for about 3 years, is that a reasonable person cant tell the difference between the 4k and 1440p for 90% of uses. You can however absolutely tell the difference between 1080p and 1440p, that is night and day. The reason being is 4k is just a hell of a lot of pixels for a normal monitor screen, it gets overkill.

I have a 1440p ultrawide curved monitor, the Predator X34P and the resolution and size feels fantastic. I cant use my old 1080p for anything more than just a sidescreen browser, it just feels low res and cramped.

Definitely get 144hz+ if you can. My ultrawide is 120hz/115hz which Is about the same but 60hz just wont cut it, and 240hz like 4k, is just overkill for 90% of uses. Sure, they are undeniably better, but will you notice, if you fall into the 90%, no. If you fall into the 10%, sure you might, but you still probably wont care.

if you're buying a 2070S you'd be mad not to get a 1440p monitor, its 2020 and 1080p is outdated at this stage. buying a 2070S but only a 1080p is like buying a ferrari engine and putting square wheels on the ferrari.

I don't know if it's because it's a 29" 4k monitor that I sometimes run 1440p resolutions on, but I can definitely tell the difference when playing games. Maybe the difference isn't so noticeable if it's a 1440p monitor though? especially if it's also smaller.

My main problem with 4k Monitors is that the colors are usually worse unless you spend way more than it's worth it on them (or that used to be the case when I got my current monitor).

[Jonnusthegreat]

1440p144hz is literally the best. 4k is not worth it, way overhyped.



Exactly, all games you play. Not all modern games (I'm thinking latest AAA) titles will run max details 4k60fps on 2080 Ti. Just no, and that's a fact, you can't deny that.

Every AAA game I've played since purchasing the 2080 runs on 4k at 60 fps. Correct, not ALL games in the universe, but for many people, they will get 60fps on 4k for every game they play. (My two biggest games that run 60 fps 4K are WoW and ESO)

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I don't know if it's because it's a 29" 4k monitor that I sometimes run 1440p resolutions on, but I can definitely tell the difference when playing games. Maybe the difference isn't so noticeable if it's a 1440p monitor though? especially if it's also smaller.

My main problem with 4k Monitors is that the colors are usually worse unless you spend way more than it's worth it on them (or that used to be the case when I got my current monitor).

A 4K has 4x as many pixels than a 1080p - so lots of times to lower price points they skimp on other details, notably FPS. Haven't heard of colors, but every monitor model is different for some strange reason on colors. Have you tried changing its settings like RGB, contrast, etc? How much was your 4K?

[Maquegyver]

Its pretty simple to explain why some people call 1440p 2k... It is a heck of a lot closer to half the pixel count of 4k than 1080p is... 1080p is a joke compared to 4k and 1440p on pixel count. With it being close to half the pixel count of 4k some refer to 1440p as 2k. Certainly more correct than calling 1080p 2k lol... 1080p is basically 1k in terms of pixels.

[Daymanmb]

Keeping 144hz is going to be important for you now that youve gotten used to it. Id consider bumping up to 2k @144hz at some point.

[illander]

I am so proud of you guys defending the cinema formats vs this "2k" which would be a fancy 1080p <3
It's been grinding my gears for so long hahaha

[blackmartin]

I bought a 4k 60fps monitor a few years ago. There is a HUGE difference between 4k and 1080p. I will NEVER go back to 1080p. That being said, I might try 2k 144hz soon.

I have a rtx 2080.

The difference between 1080p, 1440p, and 4K is just resolution sharpness essentially. You will not see better performance by switching to a higher resolution (and you will lose a ton of performance at 4k lol).

What you will notice however is a 1440p monitor with 144hz or higher, and gsync/freesync. The smoothness that the higher Hz provides allows for better performance from the monitor because it is able to display higher then 60 FPS unlike with 60hz, and with a good card like any RTX series the gsync ties it together to make it buttery smooth. For those that don’t know, Hz = max frame rate of your display.

Unless you can afford a 144hz 4K monitor, which are crazy expensive by the way, there is no situation where a 4k 60hz will perform better then a 144hz 1440p. The only reason to run 4K is if you want shooters at max graphics to look as realistic as possible, but they won’t make you a better player :P

[Kagthul]

Hence why I said most games, not all games... even my old ass 1080 can do 4k60fps in some games, others I just drop resolution scaling by up to 50% (which would make it equal to 1440p.)

That would make it equal to 1080p

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I don't know if it's because it's a 29" 4k monitor that I sometimes run 1440p resolutions on, but I can definitely tell the difference when playing games. Maybe the difference isn't so noticeable if it's a 1440p monitor though? especially if it's also smaller.

Because you're not running at the native res or at 1080p (which would allow for pixel doubling), of course its going to be blurry.

[Skorpionss]

That would make it equal to 1080p

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Because you're not running at the native res or at 1080p (which would allow for pixel doubling), of course its going to be blurry.

yeah I know, but I have to for some games, especially multiplayer stuff like Warzone, for some older titles I'm okay with not dropping the resolution at all or maybe like 10-15% to stop massive fps drops. But with 2070s it really shouldn't be a problem to run most games at 4k60, and for multiplayer shooters where FPS matters more you can drop the resolution anytime.

My current monitor is Dell S2817Q, and the colors are very flat, it's better than what I used to have though, but I'll definitely change it with the next pc I'm building, probably next year (waiting for the 3000 series)...

[Kagthul]

But with 2070s it really shouldn't be a problem to run most games at 4k60,

Not remotely.

The 2070S is slower than my 1080Ti, and i cant get near 4k60 at high settings in most games.

The 2080Ti still has trouble getting AAA games to 4k/60.

Also be aware that what i was pointing out was that you turning the render scale down to 50% does not give you the equivalent of 1440p, its the equivalent of 1080p, and is very easy on a 4k display because it will just use pixel doubling.