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    Quote Originally Posted by CommunismWillWin View Post
    As ignorant on the far left and european history as always.
    Says the commie. The irony is so massive it's stretching space-time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vorkreist View Post
    Says the commie. The irony is so massive it's stretching space-time.
    Yeah, i'll take somebody who is far right as an authority on the far left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jester Joe View Post
    Is George Washington suppose to be immune to criticism or something?
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    Only if you use modern day values to criticize him

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommunismWillWin View Post
    As ignorant on the far left and european history as always.
    No this is accurate. I am an Atheist and used to work with the Atheist bloc myself. Back then the far left atheist had a smug sense of superiority as well.

    P.S. Capitalism isn't an ideology

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    Quote Originally Posted by DKjaigen View Post
    Only if you use modern day values to criticize him
    The retorts to the declaration of independence suggests otherwise they openly pointed out the hypocrisy of declaring all men are created equal while having slaves. I am not sure why you think owning people being bad is a modern day concept.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    The retorts to the declaration of independence suggests otherwise they openly pointed out the hypocrisy of declaring all men are created equal while having slaves.
    And that single line also ultimately culminated to the abolishment of slavery. If Washington didn't make the effort back then by laying the foundations of modern American values we would still have slavery and you and me would have believed slavery is ok.

    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    I am not sure why you think owning people being bad is a modern day concept.
    WTF! Mate we still have slavery to this day. And not all of them are based on race. It can be for money, power or religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DKjaigen View Post
    And that single line also ultimately culminated to the abolishment of slavery. If Washington didn't make the effort back then by laying the foundations of modern American values we would still have slavery and you and me would have believed slavery is ok.



    WTF! Mate we still have slavery to this day. And not all of them are based on race. It can be for money, power or religion.
    Wow you completely missed the point, the US was not the first country to abolish slavery. The fact that it exist today has nothing to do with what we are talking about. The founders were good with slavery due to a number of reasons including economic ones. Whether during their time or today it was not considered okay by everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DKjaigen View Post
    Only if you use modern day values to criticize him

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    No this is accurate. I am an Atheist and used to work with the Atheist bloc myself. Back then the far left atheist had a smug sense of superiority as well.
    That changes nothing about what I said, but okay.



    P.S. Capitalism isn't an ideology
    Yes it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yadryonych View Post
    Weird, last time is checked, Christmas was vehemently expunged from everywhere and replaced by "holidays" because Christmas is offensive to people who crucified the Christ
    Not wierd, considering where your from and misinformation. Par for the course...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Butt Witch View Post
    No, it's not that. Christmas is offensive to the Far-left as a whole because "Ewww, religion!!!". The Far-left being comprised mostly of extremist atheists as well as people who feel rejected by religion because their various preferences don't go hand in hand with religious dogmas. And since the companies are eager to virtue signal to the Far-left, the concept is being replaced with Festivus or whatever non-religious concept they came up with.
    Festivas is a joke from Seinfeld... and it wasn’t Athiests... if you think Festivas is real, you got trolled pretty hard core and are not only buying the troll, you are repeating it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vorkreist View Post
    Says the commie. The irony is so massive it's stretching space-time.
    Uhm... Festivas isn’t real...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    Wow you completely missed the point, the US was not the first country to abolish slavery. The fact that it exist today has nothing to do with what we are talking about. The founders were good with slavery due to a number of reasons including economic ones. Whether during their time or today it was not considered okay by everyone.
    But it was ok for the majority of the world back then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DKjaigen View Post
    But it was ok for the majority of the world back then.
    So was autocratic monarchy.
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    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommunismWillWin View Post
    Yes it is.
    It's nothing more than an economic system. If properly managed by law it can allow anyone to thrive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DKjaigen View Post
    It's nothing more than an economic system. If properly managed by law it can allow anyone to thrive.
    Anyone, but not everyone. Which is why it sucks.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DKjaigen View Post
    It's nothing more than an economic system. If properly managed by law it can allow anyone to thrive.
    So is communism.


    And no, most people won't thrive under it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DKjaigen View Post
    It's nothing more than an economic system. If properly managed by law it can allow anyone to thrive.
    Isn’t that like saying capitalism needs socialism to allow anyone to thrive? The more you need to manage by law, the more you are moving away from capitalism to socialism. The whole shtick of socialism, is managing by law, instead of corporate goons.
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    You must first infest academia then you must rewrite history in media and then you must destroy any evidence that things have ever been different then you clam they are.

    This is all part of the communist playbook. We are entering the endgame now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DKjaigen View Post
    But it was ok for the majority of the world back then.
    Do you have polling from the 1800s to support that? that is a ludicrous statement most of the world was ruled by monarchy back then people had no choice in what was okay.

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    They toppled a Ulysses Grant statue.

    Yeah not only they hate america but they know shit of history

    If I didnt know any better Id say the KKK or confederate people did this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laughingjack View Post
    You must first infest academia then you must rewrite history in media and then you must destroy any evidence that things have ever been different then you clam they are.

    This is all part of the communist playbook. We are entering the endgame now.
    We live in a country that doesn’t even have a public healthcare option, but tearing down statues of slavers is bringing on communism? Dude... the biggest communist act of the last decade in the US, was the coal and farm subsidies passed by Trump within the last 2 years. You need stop listening to people who want to scare you...
    Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    We live in a country that doesn’t even have a public healthcare option, but tearing down statues of slavers is bringing on communism? Dude... the biggest communist act of the last decade in the US, was the coal and farm subsidies passed by Trump within the last 2 years. You need stop listening to people who want to scare you...
    I would rather not burn my books... This so far is following a formula repeated several times throughout history from cuba,to Mao. Certain touchstones are almost always followed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laughingjack View Post
    You must first infest academia then you must rewrite history in media and then you must destroy any evidence that things have ever been different then you clam they are.

    This is all part of the communist playbook. We are entering the endgame now.
    pfft..you're funny

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