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    Xelnath, Zelnath, what happened to that guy?

    He got fired sometime in MoP, he was the guy in charge of the warlock reworks. But why did he get fired when he was so successful?

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    He went to Riot with the rest of the Blizzard talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narwhalosh Whalescream View Post
    He got fired sometime in MoP, he was the guy in charge of the warlock reworks. But why did he get fired when he was so successful?
    https://lmgtfy.com/?q=why+did+xelnath+get+fired

    Doesn't seem like a hugely difficult thing to do? I'm pretty sure he literally even posted on this forum explaining it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ro9ue View Post
    He went to Riot with the rest of the Blizzard talent.
    Haha ouch, but yeah.


    He's no longer with Riot though, hasn't been for several years now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Narwhalosh Whalescream View Post
    He got fired sometime in MoP, he was the guy in charge of the warlock reworks. But why did he get fired when he was so successful?
    Basically, he made warlock too much fun so he had to go. And true enough, warlock has been quite unenjoyable ever since. His legacy, to an extent, still carried on in WoD (mostly because Blizz hadn't yet had enough time to ruin all of his designs) but by Legion and onward the process of undoing MoP warlock was complete and the warlock design had become something quite awful. I'm speaking mostly from destro perspective here, but I guess this is valid for the other specs as well. Sadly, it seems Blizz is quite happy with the status quo with destro since they plan to keep it almost unchanged -- and unfun -- also in Shadowlands.

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    https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...-the-Community

    Here's the thread where he announced he got fired. Seems like he got mad about a design choice and complained to the players about it publicly. Unprofessional, makes sense.
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    Well, none of us knew what happened behind the scenes really. But from just the results perspective, he was very successful. In fact, a lot of the class designs during MoP were the peak of each respective specs.

    And the fact that the "team" decided for Cataclysm as a spell spoke clearly about them. It only works now because of its damage, but it's really a rather pointless spell back then with rain of fire being relevant. And I think a lot of power play is involved. I mean, we all knew what happened from WoD and onwards, that is clearly influenced by someone. Now they decided to "listen" because they saw a shift in the tides during the last legs of BFA. It will take a lot of work and them eating their pride to fix these specs they broke that weren't broken in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugarfree View Post
    Well, none of us knew what happened behind the scenes really. But from just the results perspective, he was very successful. In fact, a lot of the class designs during MoP were the peak of each respective specs.

    And the fact that the "team" decided for Cataclysm as a spell spoke clearly about them. It only works now because of its damage, but it's really a rather pointless spell back then with rain of fire being relevant. And I think a lot of power play is involved. I mean, we all knew what happened from WoD and onwards, that is clearly influenced by someone. Now they decided to "listen" because they saw a shift in the tides during the last legs of BFA. It will take a lot of work and them eating their pride to fix these specs they broke that weren't broken in the first place.
    True, MoP had really good class design, WoD was alright in that regard, but demonbolt made demonology no fun at all. And removal of dot snapshotting ruined dot specs entirely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AwkwardSquirtle View Post
    https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...-the-Community

    Here's the thread where he announced he got fired. Seems like he got mad about a design choice and complained to the players about it publicly. Unprofessional, makes sense.
    Unprofessionalism? No. Hell no.
    What's unprofessional is that he didn't know that Ice Block could be used while stunned, he argued that Unending Resolve is "better" than IB because mages could be stun-locked and killed while unable to use IB.

    BUT it was still the most fun era of WoW class design, so whatever you call it, to the hell with "professionalism" if that's what got us Legion and BfA...

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    Can't blame him, cataclysm is a terribly designed spell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orwell7 View Post
    Unprofessionalism? No. Hell no.
    What's unprofessional is that he didn't know that Ice Block could be used while stunned, he argued that Unending Resolve is "better" than IB because mages could be stun-locked and killed while unable to use IB.

    BUT it was still the most fun era of WoW class design, so whatever you call it, to the hell with "professionalism" if that's what got us Legion and BfA...
    wow,thats kinda crazy when your devs dont know basic game mecanics

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narwhalosh Whalescream View Post
    True, MoP had really good class design, WoD was alright in that regard, but demonbolt made demonology no fun at all. And removal of dot snapshotting ruined dot specs entirely.
    Demonbolt = Soulfire
    Demonic Core = Molten Core

    They just renamed the abilities

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    He probably got a much better job

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    True-facts, My friend is friends with him. He went to Riot and then put out that game on steam Orzi or something.
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