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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Coldkil View Post
    Not an elegant solution, and i'd like to understand well if the main reason was about the performance hit AH snipebots had on the servers or the fact the economy was driven by them and made the whole thing worse for everyone.

    Anyway it gets the job done. The random joe that farms herbs for an hour and crafts potions to sell won't have any issue. Literally the only ones hit by this are the TSM AHlords.
    You dont even need to be an AHLord to reach their cap

    You get 5 items per type of gear you ideally want three of each bc of stat variations. There are 4 types of items thats already 60. No other professions added there (and Im missing weapons) or old expansion stuff

    Also is it 60??? Ive noticed that I get throttled at 20 or so

    Its a stupid change. Let people play how they please

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    Lets not even talk about glyphs
    Last edited by NED funded; 2020-06-17 at 09:17 PM.

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    You dont even need to be an AHLord to reach their cap

    You get 5 items per type of gear you ideally want three of each bc of stat variations. There are 4 types of items thats already 60. No other professions added there (and Im missing weapons) or old expansion stuff

    Also is it 60??? Ive noticed that I get throttled at 20 or so

    Its a stupid change. Let people play how they please

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    Lets not even talk about glyphs
    Apparently they have already changed that. Throttle is still in place, but more "relaxed".
    No one wants to choose. Everyone wants everything.

  3. #23
    Can anyone explain to me why I was able to scan 12k auctions within 2s yesterday? I'm using Auctionator to get a current snapshot of the AH prices. Why wasn't that throttled?

  4. #24
    Why didn't they just break the addon like they did to so many other in the past? I find it too much that they blanket throttle everyone just to stop a few from taking advantage of something that they allowed in the first place.

    Sorry to say this but currently wow is all about stupid decisions back to back and getting worse every day.

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Motorman View Post
    Why didn't they just break the addon like they did to so many other in the past? I find it too much that they blanket throttle everyone just to stop a few from taking advantage of something that they allowed in the first place.

    Sorry to say this but currently wow is all about stupid decisions back to back and getting worse every day.
    What do you break tho?
    The issue is the high volume of traffic generated by addons rapidly searching/posting large amounts of items.

    There is no issue with people using an addon to make it easier to list 20 flasks.

    So how do you break the former, without impacting the later? they are both doing the same api calls.

    throttling makes perfect sense when the issue if the amount and frequency of actions, and not the action itself.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

  6. #26
    I originally though this was great change too until i wanted to post my spare mats in the AH. I think the throttle implemented was way to high. There was a hot fix to lower it a little but I haven't had a chance to personally try it.

    Good change just needs to find the perfect "throttle point"

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Athulua View Post
    First one is Fast Clicker - a tool that allowed you to click 60 times per second with a simple keybind.

    Second tool I used extensively is Consortium Key Sender
    More about it here: https://github.com/ootsby/CKS-E
    This is textbook botting, and not simply using the AddOn API. Most people are just using AddOns. Constantly calling Blizzards API to update information/perform actions, isn't botting. What you're talking about is absolutely bannable; what the thread is talking about is utilizing AddOns that consume an API that Blizzard exposed and is now purposefully throttling.
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  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by xGLxAnubis View Post
    This is textbook botting, and not simply using the AddOn API. Most people are just using AddOns. Constantly calling Blizzards API to update information/perform actions, isn't botting. What you're talking about is absolutely bannable; what the thread is talking about it utilizing AddOns that consume an API that Blizzard exposed and is now purposefully throttling.
    Ye CKS always stood in 'grey area' and 'use at your own risk' status. Lots of people used it for years without any sort of suspension (including me), some people got banned, as reported on Reddit for example. And the ban came precisely for using CKS, as the person claimed to not use any other 3rd party software.

    Getting banned for this is rather rare, as such botting isn't very obvious. You are unlikely to get banned if you don't get reported, and prospecting ore isn't something that would get you reported often.

    But full automation was easy to accomplish. I used to utilize CKS to redirect my G key into H key, open notepad, lock G key with a penny and go afk, clean up house, walk the doggo etc. Full-on botting. Prohibited? Sure is. Likely to get caught? Hell no. My ban came from selling 12 million gold to chinese vendors in a rapid succession. I thought I'd quit for good so i got rid of all my gold.

    Tradeskill Master is perfectly legit addon. IDK why people are salty about this one.
    Last edited by Athulua; 2020-06-18 at 03:13 PM.

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    Just because you don't like an addon doesn't mean Blizzard should go around screwing us over. It's not an "exploit" if it's an addon that takes advantage of an API that Blizzard themselves purposefully make publicly available.

    They made this game with addons in mind from the beginning. And instead of fixing a problem, they just make it worse.
    So it’s not an exploit if it’s blizzard that created the code that is being exploited? That’s just... as stupid as the reasoning blizzard came up with that people dislike. And just because you dislike a change, doesn’t mean it’s worse. But I get how you might be upset that there are steps being taken to cut down on auction house automation via addons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgaith View Post
    I just hope that this throttling will help against AH bots that autosnipe items.
    That's the worst too. Can't make any accidents with these bots and addons that autosnipe, it's ridiculous. Hasn't happened to me in a while, but I've had friends who tried selling 350 BoE epics at the beginning of BFA but listed it for the wrong price. Within the 5 or so seconds it took them to pull up auctions and try to cancel, the item was already sold. It's pretty sleezy IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mardux View Post
    So it’s not an exploit if it’s blizzard that created the code that is being exploited? That’s just... as stupid as the reasoning blizzard came up with that people dislike. And just because you dislike a change, doesn’t mean it’s worse. But I get how you might be upset that there are steps being taken to cut down on auction house automation via addons.
    How is it an exploit to use the API Blizzard themselves made publically available to addon makers?

  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    How is it an exploit to use the API Blizzard themselves made publically available to addon makers?
    Calling it an exploit is indeed going a bit far, but fact of the matter is Blizzard no longer comfortable with the extent the API was being used and have tweaked it. It's certainly not a new situation, there's a plethora of APIs that have been either tweaked or completely removed over the years to disrupt specific addon functionality.

  13. #33
    They should just destroy TSM, let it die. The lag is already back again on Ravencrest around prime-time - Yes its not as laggy as pre-throttle but AH is way laggier still than outside prime time. And it makes auctionator laggy as well with the throttle, even if that addon is nowhere near as toxic as TSM. If TSM dies I will be happy, until then no...

    Its fun that people can disrupt other peoples game and be instant banned for it, but the rule is different on the AH.
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