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  1. #201
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    I won't say until I've play tested it. My feelings right now are that it looks like improvements to BFA, but also introducing new concerns.

  2. #202
    It is indeed, I'd come back just for the story in SL compared to BFA.

    That being said, if we a carbon copy of cataclysm down to the last grey item, that would be enough to entice me back after BFA
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    doesn't seem so , haven't seen any good changes to gameplay honestly . If classes suck the game sucks , rental powers won't cut it.

  4. #204
    Dun really see shadowlands redeeming wow at this point, after cata, wod and bfa, the damage is done, irreprably so.

    Theres really no point in trying to believe shadowlands will be some amazing legion 2.0 because I sincerely doubt it, at best, it'll be more like MoP 2.0, decent, but nothing special.

    At worst, it'll be BFA 2.0 and make the game even worse...

    Despite this pessimistic tone im not saying wow is going to die or anything but rather, the golden days? Yeah they went long ago, and I cant see Shadowlands redeeming it.

  5. #205
    Quote Originally Posted by Toho View Post
    Personally I absolutely hated BFA.

    I don't think any game or movie has ever pissed me off so much. Now with Shadowlands there are new features that I do admit look nice but after BFA it feels... wrong to me.

    Especially since everything in BFA felt as though was pushed through so we can get this expansion.
    How do you guys think about Shadowlands?

    Was it all worth it with all these spoilers?
    It's hilarious that Shadowlands main selling points is that it's "NOT BFA".

    All this whole expansion looks like to me is them trying to walk back on all the horrible design choices they've forced down our throats for 4 years straight. But you just know they'll never move away from their Vision(tm) for the game. So things like Covenants and Class Design will probably ruin this expansion anyway.

  6. #206
    Quote Originally Posted by SerratedEdge252 View Post
    Even yours is wrong. Cata was actually decent. MoP is one of if not thee most missed expansion ever for a vast amount of the community and players strictly because of the patch staging (which was great as a timeline) and the class design that many consider the peak of it. Cata would be categorized as mixed at the worst and for Mop it would be mixed on both sides but missed by many players for how amazing the gameplay systems and class designs were.
    Nah, like I said, players have forgotten and forgiven Cata. I guess partly because it was so long ago and because of nostalgia too. When it was live though, it was almost as hated as BfA is now. Players complained about heroics being too hard. Disconnected zones, the world revamp and a number of other things.

    As for MoP, it caused a massive amount of players to quit. From 10 million or so at the start to less than 7 at the end.

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    Long as alts and catch ups aren't as much of a slog as BfA it will be way better in my eyes.

  8. #208
    I'm taking a nice long break before Shadowlands to get BFA out of my mouth.

  9. #209
    Quote Originally Posted by Capultro View Post
    I don't know what the hell is wrong with blizzard, it just changes the game so that there are blacks and Chinese, surely the next thing will be gypsies, transvestites and gays ... blizzard is starting to disgust me but seriously ... this is a game there is no reason to reflect the races of reality or sexual orientations, especially those anomalous and indecent, the product of a dark vice ...and a mental imbalance
    This needs calling out. It is horrendously offensive to people of colour and non-binary genders. This is nothing to do with the game, and honestly, it is a positive if Blizzard develop WoW to add diversity to the character customisations.

  10. #210
    Quote Originally Posted by kaminaris View Post
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    You are in the nimority if you like bfa more then Legion. Several polls have already been made on that subject.

    The passive damage from azerite, essences and corruption makes player skill less important among many other factors. This expansion is on par, if not even more hated then WoD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capultro View Post
    I don't know what the hell is wrong with blizzard, it just changes the game so that there are blacks and Chinese, surely the next thing will be gypsies, transvestites and gays ... blizzard is starting to disgust me but seriously ... this is a game there is no reason to reflect the races of reality or sexual orientations, especially those anomalous and indecent, the product of a dark vice ...and a mental imbalance
    Fucking bigot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capultro View Post
    I don't know what the hell is wrong with blizzard, it just changes the game so that there are blacks and Chinese, surely the next thing will be gypsies, transvestites and gays ... blizzard is starting to disgust me but seriously ... this is a game there is no reason to reflect the races of reality or sexual orientations, especially those anomalous and indecent, the product of a dark vice ...and a mental imbalance
    You're a piece of shit.
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  13. #213
    I'll know about a month in. Even the worst expansion, WoD, I felt I got my money's worth from buying the Expansion and 1month game time doing all of the story and exploration content for the first time. That never lets me down. The question is always, ok now that I'm at end game, is there anything worth replaying and resubbing for? For BFA I got a solid 6 months out of it. Not bad. WoD was about the same. Legion I was subbed the entirety of the expansion. I hope SL is closer to Legion in holding my interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaminaris View Post
    Legion: Worst expansion ever
    BfA: Best expansion ever
    I'm so glad I'm not expected to take you serious.
    I did not hit that snowmound, it's not true! It's bullshit, I did not hit it. I did NAHT.
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  15. #215
    Quote Originally Posted by kaminaris View Post
    In legion we waited entire expansion to get vendors. It was too late.

    And no In Legion you had to farm for 1-2 months with tons of more effort to be able to "be in the middle of pack".
    No you didn't, after 7.2 you did 4 WQs with AP and you had most of your power. You use the deflection of "people forgot how bad it was". It's more like you forgot how easy it got from Nighthold and even more so from 7.2. That was 5-8 months in. The weapon catch up was powerful as shit. Getting weapon up was a no brainer. Legendaries was still a grind, sure, but comparing timeline to timeline, Legion was just way easier to power up at this stage. Corruption was just way worse when it comes to RNG. The redeeming part is that it came in 8.3, luckily this late.

    Even with vendors you still need 2-3 weeks to get the amount you need for BiS stuff. One week is like 30-40% of the potential power. In Legion you had 80% of overall power in one emissary after 7.2. Thats why rental power worked better in Legion. It was two things two get, weapon ugrade and legendaries. Since the weapon stood for the majority of the power it was fast to get up to speed. Some people seems to have forgotten that they introduced this insane cach up in that patch. I can compare this since I played both expansions properly. You have said yourself that you played way less in Legion than BfA. Idling in Dalaran did not give you legendaries for instance. Yes, the rng sucked, but the corruption rng sucked even more lol.

    And you really think we would have gotten a vendor on corruption in 8.1 or something if we had it from launch? No, we would not. Just look at essences as well. And Azerite Armor. Still 24 weeks for full set of targetable items. Azerite Armor came in 8.0. Zero catch up.
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  16. #216
    Quote Originally Posted by ClassicPeon View Post
    You are in the nimority if you like bfa more then Legion. Several polls have already been made on that subject.

    The passive damage from azerite, essences and corruption makes player skill less important among many other factors. This expansion is on par, if not even more hated then WoD.
    Nope, not even close, couple of years will pass and it will be same situation as MoP. When it was current it was the worst expansion ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doffen View Post
    No you didn't, after 7.2 you did 4 WQs with AP and you had most of your power. You use the deflection of "people forgot how bad it was". It's more like you forgot how easy it got from Nighthold and even more so from 7.2. That was 5-8 months in. The weapon catch up was powerful as shit. Getting weapon up was a no brainer. Legendaries was still a grind, sure, but comparing timeline to timeline, Legion was just way easier to power up at this stage. Corruption was just way worse when it comes to RNG. The redeeming part is that it came in 8.3, luckily this late.

    Even with vendors you still need 2-3 weeks to get the amount you need for BiS stuff. One week is like 30-40% of the potential power. In Legion you had 80% of overall power in one emissary after 7.2. Thats why rental power worked better in Legion. It was two things two get, weapon ugrade and legendaries. Since the weapon stood for the majority of the power it was fast to get up to speed. Some people seems to have forgotten that they introduced this insane cach up in that patch. I can compare this since I played both expansions properly. You have said yourself that you played way less in Legion than BfA. Idling in Dalaran did not give you legendaries for instance. Yes, the rng sucked, but the corruption rng sucked even more lol.

    And you really think we would have gotten a vendor on corruption in 8.1 or something if we had it from launch? No, we would not. Just look at essences as well. And Azerite Armor. Still 24 weeks for full set of targetable items. Azerite Armor came in 8.0. Zero catch up.
    No you didn't. If you didn't have farmed leggos you had a long journey for farming shit over and over again. Even after 7.2 it could take you 3-5 months to get the ones you need. And that is just for one spec. Forget about other specs.

    Ap, you were still month behind others, forget about other specs, in BfA catchup is more powerful.

    Stop saying nonsense about azerite, it drops from raids just like tiers did except you need 3 of them not 6 like in legion (including previous tiers, which of course nobody wanted to farm anymore on mythic), in addition to that you got M+ vendor. In Legion there wasn't even an option to get tier sets from M+.
    So that is straight up LIE, and it took much longer in legion.

  17. #217
    Quote Originally Posted by Toho View Post
    Personally I absolutely hated BFA.

    I don't think any game or movie has ever pissed me off so much. Now with Shadowlands there are new features that I do admit look nice but after BFA it feels... wrong to me.

    Especially since everything in BFA felt as though was pushed through so we can get this expansion.
    How do you guys think about Shadowlands?

    Was it all worth it with all these spoilers?
    Shadowlands is THE redemption arc of WoW.

    BfA was a filler bullshit dragonball z-esque 100 episode of pure channeling of spirit bomb nonsense.

    Now we got high elves, mismatched shoulder transmog, more customization options than ever before, unlocked allied races, druid forms in barbershop, and even seperate worgen and human cutomization.

    I came bucketloads so many times in the last months since these news were revealed that I can't even count them.

    BfA should be in the trash where it belongs, we only need to make moonkin cosmetic at this point, and Shadowlands can launch to a worldwide success.

  18. #218
    I'm really excited, about as much as I was for Legion.

  19. #219
    Quote Originally Posted by Hashtronaut View Post
    This is the first expansion I’m not pre-ordering OR even planning to buy until things settle in.
    Yep, same here.

  20. #220
    Quote Originally Posted by Onamae View Post
    Shadowlands is THE redemption arc of WoW.

    BfA was a filler bullshit dragonball z-esque 100 episode of pure channeling of spirit bomb nonsense.

    Now we got high elves, mismatched shoulder transmog, more customization options than ever before, unlocked allied races, druid forms in barbershop, and even seperate worgen and human cutomization.

    I came bucketloads so many times in the last months since these news were revealed that I can't even count them.

    BfA should be in the trash where it belongs, we only need to make moonkin cosmetic at this point, and Shadowlands can launch to a worldwide success.
    Don't get me wrong, more customization is always nice, but... Really? Like that is all ot takes to make you happy compared to BfA?

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