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    How secure is selling SSD?

    I have heard with right hands someone could recover all the data the SSD have ever had in its entire lifetime. Can I trust erase tools before selling and how easy is to recover all data SSD have had over 5 years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryjkur View Post
    I have heard with right hands someone could recover all the data the SSD have ever had in its entire lifetime. Can I trust erase tools before selling and how easy is to recover all data SSD have had over 5 years?
    Do a Low-Level Format and every thing will be gone on the disk

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    Get a good data destruction program and go nuts.

    2-3 passes should wipe everything and make it unrecoverable.

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    A 1 pass wipe with random data is enough for all practical purposes.

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    dude just format it, 1 pass is fine, you're not the federal government, you'll be fine provided you dont have scanned copies of your social and/or birth certificate, you dont have pictures of your debit cards and such.

    If you're worried about stored passwords, you should have 2 factor turned on for ANYTHING that involves you making a transaction anyways. PayPal, venmo, zelle, Wells Fargo, Amazon, all those I have 2 factor turned on so even if they did have my passwords, it wouldn't matter.

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    You really think there are people there buying second hand ssds to try and recover your stuff?

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    Use a strong magnet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daedius View Post
    Use a strong magnet.
    That works on HDDs, not SSDs. SSDs don't store bits on magnetized metal, but as different voltage levels, so a magnet would likely do nothing. Hell, with most modern HDDs, magnets don't work either unless you pull the platters out (In which case, your drive is likely dead, because you can't put it back properly)

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    Must be hell of a weird porn to go these lengths.

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    Unless you've got some some true secretive stuff a normal format is fine.

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    Just a random question.

    Couldn't you technically wipe the drive, download enough games to fill it up, wipe the drive again. This way the only files that would be available are the games from before the last wipe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarym13 View Post
    Just a random question.

    Couldn't you technically wipe the drive, download enough games to fill it up, wipe the drive again. This way the only files that would be available are the games from before the last wipe?
    Nah, because you don't actually have access to the full drive. Only ~75-80% of it, depending on over provisioning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryjkur View Post
    I have heard with right hands someone could recover all the data the SSD have ever had in its entire lifetime. Can I trust erase tools before selling and how easy is to recover all data SSD have had over 5 years?
    Recover entire lifetime of data?

    How is that even physically possible? I mean your SSD suddenly has 10000+ of terabytes of data as backup to be recoverable? Wow, I think ssd manufactures are lying us and giving us only 1/10000 of it's capacity.

    Just write your ssd full of zeros and you are fine.

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    I started using full drive encryption a few years ago, makes me not care about my storage anymore. If I lose a USB or give away storage, its just random data from day 1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yizu View Post
    You really think there are people there buying second hand ssds to try and recover your stuff?
    Exactly this, normal consumers are not what people with this kind of level of facility are after.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmocfd1b0ab5a3 View Post
    Recover entire lifetime of data?

    How is that even physically possible? I mean your SSD suddenly has 10000+ of terabytes of data as backup to be recoverable? Wow, I think ssd manufactures are lying us and giving us only 1/10000 of it's capacity.

    Just write your ssd full of zeros and you are fine.
    If it were overwritten with plain zeroes a determined government would still have a chance of recovering old data in a lab.

    It's hard to find an authoritative answer on how to wipe an entire SSD making all the old data 100% unrecoverable in all cases because of the underlying workings of SSD technology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarym13 View Post
    Just a random question.

    Couldn't you technically wipe the drive, download enough games to fill it up, wipe the drive again. This way the only files that would be available are the games from before the last wipe?
    Asking for a friend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ange View Post
    I started using full drive encryption a few years ago, makes me not care about my storage anymore. If I lose a USB or give away storage, its just random data from day 1
    This. How encryption is not a thing? If my pc, laptop or phone would get stolen - I wouldn't change a single password and would sleep very calmly knowing my pictures wouldn't get leaked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryjkur View Post
    I have heard with right hands someone could recover all the data the SSD have ever had in its entire lifetime. Can I trust erase tools before selling and how easy is to recover all data SSD have had over 5 years?
    1. The first part in the bold there is utter nonsense.

    2. Who the hell would buy a five year old second hand SSD?

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    Quote Originally Posted by matheney2k View Post
    Asking for a friend?
    Just curious with the topic the OP created.

    My thoughts were that, if you have files you wouldn't want anyone to see after you wipe the drive, filling the drive up with junk followed by wiping it again would leave only the recently wiped junk files.

    I assume its like a recycling process with the files. If you get a new drive with 500gb of space, have 300gb of super embarrassing material, delete it, that 300gb of super embarrassing material will still remain on the drive. Filling up the drive with 500gb of random stuff and wiping it again would overwrite the 300gb of super embarrassing material thus deleting it from existence.

    That's just how I always imagined it would work.
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