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  1. #61
    Somehow not surprised by the comments in this thread, stay classy MMO-Champion.

    Not sure why anyone would believe Swifty after his shoddy response anyway, tbh.


  2. #62
    hearsay isnt "proof"...

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadoowpunk View Post
    Why do you keep trying to push the "view" i only care about things in a videogame and dont care about woman...

    I just have a personal vandetta against ruining peoples lives without proof.

    You clearly are not well informed about other cases on the internet.
    People wrongly accused of being pedos get their life ruined
    SWATTings ending in death
    There is a lot of this cases
    Swatting is something different than allegations of sexual harassment or assault and more a problem of how militarized and kill-hungry the US Police is, that this practice could come to place to begin with, considering that other nations don't have anything like swatting.

    Otherwise, do you have any examples on hand or is this yet again just men talking about how horribly oppressed they are?

    And you say you only care about things in a video game, yet at the same time you are also against women being able to make allegations of sexual assault, which would basically mean making sexual assault in practice legal or at least not persecutable?

    Sure Incel.

  4. #64
    I never liked this dude but wtf ever happened to innocent till proven guilty. This damn world/society is becoming an never ending episode of the twilight zone.

  5. #65
    You guys are freaking out over an in game presence.... If the allegations are true then what will your words be filled with then?

    Blizzard played this correctly, if he is accused out of all people then we shouldn't be quick to dismiss the victim and continue to shine a light over his "throne."
    Also, maybe blizzard knows something else we don't know which prompted them to remove it sooner.

    Swifty has accomplished nothing other than playing video games well-- actually just WoW. There is nothing lost by removing his presence from the game.
    My name is what makes me so manly.


  6. #66

  7. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by niztheundead87 View Post
    You are pretty much are excusing an abuser here. Aka amber heard but guess she can't be wrong because she's a woman right
    Not really. I'm not really into anything new from that case, but I just pointed out that Johnny Depps life was not ruined due to accusations. He was kicked out by Disney which probably was just as much or even more due to his alcoholism and drug use, but he is still doing financially fine and he still gets gigs in movies, including the Phantastic Beasts franchise. You Incels claim that there are constantly false allegations and that they destroy peoples life. I pointed out how there are actually rather few false proven false allegations which normally fall apart immediately and that nobodies life so far was destroyed in cases which didn't lead to a conviction.

  8. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by Shiza View Post
    Swatting is something different than allegations of sexual harassment or assault and more a problem of how militarized and kill-hungry the US Police is, that this practice could come to place to begin with, considering that other nations don't have anything like swatting.

    Otherwise, do you have any examples on hand or is this yet again just men talking about how horribly oppressed they are?

    And you say you only care about things in a video game, yet at the same time you are also against women being able to make allegations of sexual assault, which would basically mean making sexual assault in practice legal or at least not persecutable?

    Sure Incel.
    have you never heard of innocent until proven guilty?

    I'm curious... if a woman accused you of sexual assault would you sign a confession. If she accused you it must be true right?

  9. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by Shiza View Post
    Not really. I'm not really into anything new from that case, but I just pointed out that Johnny Depps life was not ruined due to accusations. He was kicked out by Disney which probably was just as much or even more due to his alcoholism and drug use, but he is still doing financially fine and he still gets gigs in movies, including the Phantastic Beasts franchise. You Incels claim that there are constantly false allegations and that they destroy peoples life. I pointed out how there are actually rather few false proven false allegations which normally fall apart immediately and that nobodies life so far was destroyed in cases which didn't lead to a conviction.
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.des...lse-accusation

    https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/crime...ape-allegation

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-surrey-11676804

    "They don't happen"

    Sure white knight all you want

  10. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadoowpunk View Post
    Na na na na na

    Im not falling into that trap.

    I dont want to be a sheep about to be herded into the drama and pretend i am a specialist on the subject.
    Ill leave that to the police.

    Im not clicking a single link...
    So basically, you are incelling around about a guys life being ruined who you claim has to be innocent, but then when somebody is countering your narrative by showing you various links which hint at Swistys guilt, you are not interested anymore?

    Sounds like you are just pissed off that men can suffer consequences for their actions.

  11. #71
    Show the proof from the court

    Go on waiting for the evidence

  12. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by Elise the Seeker View Post
    You guys are freaking out over an in game presence....
    Not the case at all.
    You think anyone cares about the NPC ingame?

    Is more a case of this setting a precedent on how easy it is to "cancel" someone.

  13. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadoowpunk View Post
    Not the case at all.
    You think anyone cares about the NPC ingame?
    I mean, looking at your OP, that's more or less the angle you went for, yes.

  14. #74
    So, there are two cases in which there isn't really specified how the mens life was destroyed and yeah, one of them is one of the few cases of false accusations which actually cause severe damage. Again, all statistics show that cases of false rape accusations are incredibly rare.

    But back to the underlying problems, no, Anita Sarkeesian doesn't want to take away the jiggle boobies from your game and that you don't find a women is not their fault but your, work on your hygiene and social behavior and don't expect to get some kind of anime waifu who only exists for your sake and even you can find a girlfriend.

  15. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by Shiza View Post
    So, there are two cases in which there isn't really specified how the mens life was destroyed and yeah, one of them is one of the few cases of false accusations which actually cause severe damage. Again, all statistics show that cases of false rape accusations are incredibly rare.

    But back to the underlying problems, no, Anita Sarkeesian doesn't want to take away the jiggle boobies from your game and that you don't find a women is not their fault but your, work on your hygiene and social behavior and don't expect to get some kind of anime waifu who only exists for your sake and even you can find a girlfriend.
    So let's just look at the facts.

    A grown woman. A GROWN ADULT WOMAN. who makes her own choices.

    Goes and picks out an outfit with some random man who makes suggestive comments. When she's in a relationship. And she does nothing to stop it? (Oh hehe im just a silly girl I thought that's how he was)

    Then he physically touches her and adjusts her dress. Again while she's in a relationship. AND SHE DOES NOTHING TO STOP IT. Just let that bit sink in. She didn't think to say.. hey random guy I'm not comfortable with what you're doing and I'm in a relationship so if you could stop doing that please. Instead she just accepts it? AN ADULT MAKING HER OWN CHOICES.

    Openly sexually assaults other women (groping their tits).

    Forces herself onto them kissing them.

    Flirts with every single female streamer / woman at these partys.

    After one time apparently John tries to have sex with a friend she invited over. THIS GROWN WOMAN WHO MAKES HER OWN CHOICES.... CONTINUES TO INVITE RANDOM WOMEN OVER KNOWING WHATS GOING TO HAPPEN.

    Then they go to a hotel and he invites a guy over and she walks out and he has his dick out.... AGAIN WHY THE FUCK AS AN ADULT WOULD YOU NOT LEAVE. Then she's 'convinced' to have oral sex with someone she doesn't want to but accepts to do it if its john.

    SHE DOESN'T LEAVE. OR CALL SOMEONE. OR TELL THEM NO.

    Im sorry but how in the fuck do you go through that many red flags. IF THEY'RE EVEN REAL.

    And even after all that stuff she said John did.

    She continues inviting women over when she knows that he's going to try and have sex with them.. all the while she's doing exactly the same with any single woman she meets... yet as soon as john says a woman has a nice figure he's in the wrong.

    But she can openly grope / kiss / flirt with everyone?

    Again. Grown ass human making her own choices.

    So unless you have proof from the court you are only spouting nonsense and as hominems like a typical white Knight.

  16. #76
    As par normal companies covering they're asses they don't make statements to stand with anyone but their own self interest why do people let these companies fool them?

    As far as these issues go.. if its true legal action should be taken, this cancel culture is a cancer if any of these hateful people (who are normally more than often guilty of something similar) were targeted they would cry foul.
    Such a shame so many weak character-ed people can take actions that end peoples lives.
    Dragonflight Nerfs vs fun again show a Blizzard that hasn't learnt a lesson, Actions speak louder than words afterall watch what they do and do not do.

  17. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by chaoticcrono View Post
    have you never heard of innocent until proven guilty?

    I'm curious... if a woman accused you of sexual assault would you sign a confession. If she accused you it must be true right?
    Innocent until proven guilty just affects legal lawsuits, you know that? You basically sound like the guys who scream about free speech on privately owned plattforms.

    In the case of these kinds of accusations, companys are perfectly within their right to back off from sponsorships. They are free with whom they associate themselves with. And people are free to criticize companies for associating with people they disagree about. That is called fucking free speech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niztheundead87 View Post
    So let's just look at the facts.

    A grown woman. A GROWN ADULT WOMAN. who makes her own choices.

    Goes and picks out an outfit with some random man who makes suggestive comments. When she's in a relationship. And she does nothing to stop it? (Oh hehe im just a silly girl I thought that's how he was)

    Then he physically touches her and adjusts her dress. Again while she's in a relationship. AND SHE DOES NOTHING TO STOP IT. Just let that bit sink in. She didn't think to say.. hey random guy I'm not comfortable with what you're doing and I'm in a relationship so if you could stop doing that please. Instead she just accepts it? AN ADULT MAKING HER OWN CHOICES.

    Openly sexually assaults other women (groping their tits).

    Forces herself onto them kissing them.

    Flirts with every single female streamer / woman at these partys.

    After one time apparently John tries to have sex with a friend she invited over. THIS GROWN WOMAN WHO MAKES HER OWN CHOICES.... CONTINUES TO INVITE RANDOM WOMEN OVER KNOWING WHATS GOING TO HAPPEN.

    Then they go to a hotel and he invites a guy over and she walks out and he has his dick out.... AGAIN WHY THE FUCK AS AN ADULT WOULD YOU NOT LEAVE. Then she's 'convinced' to have oral sex with someone she doesn't want to but accepts to do it if its john.

    SHE DOESN'T LEAVE. OR CALL SOMEONE. OR TELL THEM NO.

    Im sorry but how in the fuck do you go through that many red flags. IF THEY'RE EVEN REAL.

    And even after all that stuff she said John did.

    She continues inviting women over when she knows that he's going to try and have sex with them.. all the while she's doing exactly the same with any single woman she meets... yet as soon as john says a woman has a nice figure he's in the wrong.

    But she can openly grope / kiss / flirt with everyone?

    Again. Grown ass human making her own choices.

    So unless you have proof from the court you are only spouting nonsense and as hominems like a typical white Knight.
    Better a white Knight than an Incel. White Knights are cool, one of the my favorite classes in all RPGs, the Paladin, is basically THE White Knight.

    Sounds better than sounding like these guys who are all about being involuntarily celibate due to bad personal hygiene, bad social skills and an obsession with Anita Sarkeesian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadoowpunk View Post
    Not the case at all.
    You think anyone cares about the NPC ingame?

    Is more a case of this setting a precedent on how easy it is to "cancel" someone.
    So you admit that it is not about something in a Video Game?

  18. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by Sinndra View Post
    society has lost "innocent until proven guilty".

    now its immediate guilt.. sever ties just in case. hope you can prove your innocence, we dont really care as our gnat like attention span will have moved on by the time you can.

    cancel culture and pre-emptive actions are a plague.

    if he is found guilty.. then fine, be the first to dismiss any and all ties, and denounce the behavior. but until then.. we must stand true to "innocent until proven guilty" and question ALL accusations for proof.
    Some of ya'll need to remember that innocent until proven guilty is a concept in criminal law, not public perception, and literally never has been nor will ever be.

  19. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by Shiza View Post
    In the case of these kinds of accusations, companys are perfectly within their right to back off from sponsorships. They are free with whom they associate themselves with. And people are free to criticize companies for associating with people they disagree about. That is called fucking free speech.
    I agree with this lol

    I just find it interesting how quickly many are to throw someone under the bus on hearsay.

  20. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by Shiza View Post
    Innocent until proven guilty just affects legal lawsuits, you know that? You basically sound like the guys who scream about free speech on privately owned plattforms.

    In the case of these kinds of accusations, companys are perfectly within their right to back off from sponsorships. They are free with whom they associate themselves with. And people are free to criticize companies for associating with people they disagree about. That is called fucking free speech.

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    Better a white Knight than an Incel. White Knights are cool, one of the my favorite classes in all RPGs, the Paladin, is basically THE White Knight.

    Sounds better than sounding like these guys who are all about being involuntarily celibate due to bad personal hygiene, bad social skills and an obsession with Anita Sarkeesian.

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    So you admit that it is not about something in a Video Game?
    Ok white knight you atent getting laid however no matter how much you cover up for a how that went willingly to another man's house while she had a fiance and let's add she goes herself on only fans.

    Better be yourself thinking girls will come on you if you white knight enough

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