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  1. #21
    Probably socialisation in retrospect... things you learn in early years are so banal it's hard to find it engaging. Even in high-school there were very few subjects that were actually interesting, this of course led to me not getting stellar grades, but decent enough since everything were so boring.

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    Let's see, what did I enjoy more, dodging flying chairs and avoiding bullies for several hours every day? Or the anxiety inducing, meaningless ball of knowledge that some burocrat deemed right to force down my throat, delivered by depressed adults who lost their passion after seeing how pointless their job is?

    I enjoyed leaving all that behind, for sure. Real life is way less stressful than school.
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  3. #23
    I actually enjoyed both, once I grew up to the concept of socialization.

    In retrospect, I am lucky to have finished school when teachers still came down on bullies like a ton of bricks if they started any trouble.

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    Learning, when they actually taught me stuff that was interesting and didn't dumb it down for the assclowns in the back.
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    Early on it was definitely my friends and no learning at all. I was practically bored the first 9-10 years in school and just coasted along without any effort (like literally none, I did neither home work nor prepared for tests and usally scored average to good, so I got away with it). I enjoyed knowledge, but I got that mostly from learning stuff on my own time after school. Later in the years 10-13 and uni, when my friends had chosen different paths, was when it mostly shifted to learning itself, as the topics finally started to interest me.

    That being said I was never really into socializing as such, it was always just the people I already liked. I never went out of my way to socialize with people.
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  6. #26
    Learning.

    Regardless of grade I never found the socialization aspect of school to be worthwhile because most of my peers weren't mature enough (as in they had little knowledge of self, not meaning they engaged in what I considered infantile pursuits) to make relationship forming worthwhile.

    I can count on one hand how many friends I made in high school, and I am not in contact with any of them anymore. In college I made no lasting friendship at all and don't even live in the same city any longer.

    Admittedly it may be me as well as I don't have many friendships now, but of those adult friendships I can say that I feel closer to these people than I ever did in any level of school. School was a way to learn how to prepare for life. I never saw it as a social club.
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    Learning, I had good teachers for my math and science classes that I was able to talk to about more advanced stuff and push me towards whatever knowledge I wanted to learn. I distinctly remember asking my high school calculus teacher what sort of math I needed to understand Schrodinger's equation, and he specifically laid out the sort of path in both math and physics that I'd need for that. After some ODE and PDE courses, linear and abstract algebra, and some classical Lagrangian/Hamiltonian mechanics, the main differential equations in physics made a lot more sense. It was a really nice feeling to come to understanding Schrodinger's equation and look back at my conversation in high school a few years prior.

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by kamuimac View Post
    kids are not petty - kids are brutaly honest because they didnt learn yet how to lie and "wear a mask" in social circles.

    adoults think exackly the same - they just learned how to mask it and lie to your face.
    Not exactly true. I mean, it's all situational, but kids are not just "brutally honest".

    They're basically also extremely hyperbolic. Someone could be a bit larger than another person and a kid would just call them "fat". That doesn't make the kid "brutally honest", it makes them have no filter.

    Adults also get past the phase of judging solely on appearance. At least, hopefully.


    For the thread question though, I don't know whether to say "a bit of both" or "neither". I do enjoy learning but sometimes having a bad teacher or professor could just ruin that, and almost all of my socializing is through people who approach me instead of vice versa, so it's not like I can say I enjoyed socializing enough to go socialize. But I did enjoy the socializing that would approach me.

  9. #29
    The learning probably. The social aspects I enjoyed most happened outside of school. Although I did love my freshman year of high school where we'd all sit around playing magic and talking about FF7. I started going off campus for lunch the next year, so that ended that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kamuimac View Post
    learning

    socialization in schools is most of time complete waste of time as you wont meet 99% of those people ever again in your adoult live

    unless you mean networking during university which can bring you benefits due to people working in the same branch of economy as you do . then its important but you have to be carefull who you socialise with because there is no point to waste time on "loosers" who wont achieve much in future .

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    kids are not petty - kids are brutaly honest because they didnt learn yet how to lie and "wear a mask" in social circles.

    adoults think exackly the same - they just learned how to mask it and lie to your face.
    Being petty and being brutally honest are not mutually exclusive.

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    Mostly the socialization, but learning gradually become more enjoyable as I got older and got to choose what I wanted to study. Of course, socialization is also a form of learning in a way so I think I could say I enjoyed both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forgettable View Post
    Being petty and being brutally honest are not mutually exclusive.
    they are in case of kids.

    kids are oblivius that being honest sometimes hurts people deeply .

    when they age they learn it and most stop doing it .

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    Quote Originally Posted by kamuimac View Post
    they are in case of kids.

    kids are oblivius that being honest sometimes hurts people deeply .

    when they age they learn it and most stop doing it .
    I don't think those words mean what you think they mean.

  14. #34
    Neither. School sucks at teaching and at socialization. I learned more on my own than I ever did at school. More so, I retained more of what I taught myself than what I learned at school. I also was able to socialize better outside of a school environment since I could actually speak with people. School isn't a conductive place to be social once recess is gone. Outside of lunch, you're in a class room to attempt to learn something. You can't speak to others and you can't get to know someone. Lunch was mostly spent eating rather than socializing since its so short.

    I didn't enjoy school for anything and the entire time I was in school, I thought of it as pointless and a waste of time. To me, the entire argument of "it teaches you how to be social" is bs. You could be social in so many more environments in a Much better way than in a restrictive environment that hinders what you can say and how you act.
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    The learning. The social aspect of school seemed to focus on mocking/bullying those outside of the clique you belonged too.
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    Social. Even though moving from school to school and having to constantly learn new languages to get anything done was complete shit; I think a lot of people on this forum that could attest at the very least before they went to college; they learned way more outside of the curriculum and put way more effort into studying their hobbies at home or outside of school. A lot of people I know who are skilled at their specific field of knowledge or trade now didn't get a large part of it from the first 18 years of their life as far as school was concerned.

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