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  1. #241
    Quote Originally Posted by Krakan View Post
    I don't think they do... azerite,essences and corruption really soured the community. I think people want to go back to a risk reward system rather then a grind till your eyes bleed doing toothless content.
    Hm. And then you have people complaining about the loot not dropping for them and wants to go back to a currency system where at least you will get the loot. So the cycles of complaints continue.

    I know it is not loot but it just simplify to two system.

    A %drop system where it might drop or not.
    A currency where you grind the necessary currency system to buy the gear.

    Blizzard has flip-flop on both numerous times for all kinds of rewards and each time, a portion of the player will complain.

  2. #242
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weeps View Post
    the FUCK are YOU on about?
    In terms of BFA content, 8.2 was definitely the best patch. 8.1 gave us another trash Warfront, 1 good raid, and I guess Crucible of Storms? 8.2 gave us Nazjatar, the Eternal Palace, the MoP upgrade system but obviously BFA themed, the Mechagon Zone, the Mechagon DUNGEON, and some other things I might be missing or not.

    8.3 is just trash. Ny'alotha is an OK raid with a very humiliating final boss, corruption gear sucks, the invasions don't offer much, and overall the patch feels very, how should I put it...underwhelming?

  3. #243
    Quote Originally Posted by kaminaris View Post
    And who cares? Nobody should, you are not sole player and game shouldn't be catered neither to you nor to me.
    There are tons of shit i dont care or straight up dislike, but I do understand that players don't give a fuck about mythic raids.

    Again back to square one: I do understand that game need tons of variety and stuff that may even be bad for me BUT is good for overall game.
    You don't.

    Yes covenants would lose any meaning if those systems were disconnected from them. People don't play mob farming simulator but a game with story and immersion.
    I mean the mythic players being dragged into for them mind numbing easy content care...


    What a dumb retort.

  4. #244
    All new exp gives us new bullshit that we dont wanna do. Lets just stop having exspansions, and only major patches...Saves us gold / money anyway...75 euro for a gut damn micro transaction...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuba View Post
    Obligatory weekly Renown grind
    Obligatory weekly Torgast grind
    Obligatory weekly Caps
    Catch-up systems that require you to run stuff over-and-over on your alts until you've run as many times as your main in order to "start playing"
    Forced stuff to do that doesn't include whatever it is that you like, doesn't include gearing and serves only the pupose of "not being behind"
    Obligatory hours-long grind on every character before you start doing all of the above

    This all just looks like 8.3 is right now, and 8.3 is easily the worst patch I have ever played hands down

    Am I missing something? I really want shadowlands to take us back in the direction of good Gameplay, fun alts and so forward
    Is there something I missed in the dev vlog?
    Not so secret anymore now that you revealed it

    Also, this just in: You do not have to do ANYTHING of this. It doesn't help you buy food, pay rent or do any other essential stuff in your life. This is supposed to entertain us. If it doesn't, we should find something else.

    The moment you think your life revolves (obligatory) about things in a video game.....it is time to re-evaluate your life (especially in the light of "This all just looks like 8.3 is right now, and 8.3 is easily the worst patch I have ever played hands down" - time to quit)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djuntas View Post
    All new exp gives us new bullshit that we dont wanna do. Lets just stop having exspansions, and only major patches...Saves us gold / money anyway...75 euro for a gut damn micro transaction...
    Again...blessed we are who are not living in a society that forces you with a gun to your head to spend money on WoW and play it. You don't wanna do this bullshit? Just don't. It seems so simple. You said it yourself. Saves money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuba View Post
    Obligatory weekly Renown grind
    Obligatory weekly Torgast grind
    Obligatory weekly Caps
    Catch-up systems that require you to run stuff over-and-over on your alts until you've run as many times as your main in order to "start playing"
    Forced stuff to do that doesn't include whatever it is that you like, doesn't include gearing and serves only the pupose of "not being behind"
    Obligatory hours-long grind on every character before you start doing all of the above

    This all just looks like 8.3 is right now, and 8.3 is easily the worst patch I have ever played hands down

    Am I missing something? I really want shadowlands to take us back in the direction of good Gameplay, fun alts and so forward
    Is there something I missed in the dev vlog?
    What you're missing is that this is what the game has always been, and that none of this is actually obligatory.

  7. #247
    Quote Originally Posted by Djuntas View Post
    All new exp gives us new bullshit that we dont wanna do. Lets just stop having exspansions, and only major patches...Saves us gold / money anyway...75 euro for a gut damn micro transaction...
    LOL. As if anything from before Legion was in the same ballpark in effort, time investment and grind that Legion and BfA required. And shadowlands is shaping up to be worse.
    There is a significant difference between "mooom, I don't wanna vacuum my room!" and "moom, I don't want to build a house from nothing!".
    Anyone who denies that before Legion the hoops and hurdles were much much lower to get your character going/get up to date is seriously disingenuous.

  8. #248
    Quote Originally Posted by Lei View Post
    LOL. As if anything from before Legion was in the same ballpark in effort, time investment and grind that Legion and BfA required. And shadowlands is shaping up to be worse.
    There is a significant difference between "mooom, I don't wanna vacuum my room!" and "moom, I don't want to build a house from nothing!".
    Anyone who denies that before Legion the hoops and hurdles were much much lower to get your character going/get up to date is seriously disingenuous.
    And what does that change anything? This is why Im tired of new full reset exp, that has the same outcome as the old one...But yes, I agree that the insane grind crap started around WOD, but it was also bad in MOP. I grind nerd points (32k) and all that so...yea.
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  9. #249
    Quote Originally Posted by Djuntas View Post
    And what does that change anything? This is why Im tired of new full reset exp, that has the same outcome as the old one...But yes, I agree that the insane grind crap started around WOD, but it was also bad in MOP. I grind nerd points (32k) and all that so...yea.
    How was mop bad? And bad compared to what from before? And are you looking at from collector standpoint or from raider standpoint? I "only" have 30k achieve points but mop was EZ game compared to this what we have now. It was a great effort/reward business from both collector, and raider standpoint. Even getting the cloak on alts was better than anything in BfA.

  10. #250
    Quote Originally Posted by Djaye View Post
    the only weekly caps in vanilla, tbc and beginning of wrath were raid lockouts.
    starting end of wrath and onward they added more and more weekly/daily hamster wheel grinds. but yes, there was a time when they did not exist in WoW.
    Nah, TBC and WotLK just had daily caps instead of weekly...
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  11. #251
    Quote Originally Posted by Lei View Post
    How was mop bad? And bad compared to what from before? And are you looking at from collector standpoint or from raider standpoint? I "only" have 30k achieve points but mop was EZ game compared to this what we have now. It was a great effort/reward business from both collector, and raider standpoint. Even getting the cloak on alts was better than anything in BfA.
    MOP added INSANE mounts, thats near impossible to get now a days - This was the trend going onwards (sadly), also they did the INSANE archeology proffesions achievements...MOP also had some other note-worthy trend starters through. I dont raid in wow anymore since cata cause its pointless...You get nothing out of raiding, unless you enjoy it / enjoy the guild etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuba View Post
    Obligatory weekly Renown grind
    Obligatory weekly Torgast grind
    Obligatory weekly Caps
    Catch-up systems that require you to run stuff over-and-over on your alts until you've run as many times as your main in order to "start playing"
    Forced stuff to do that doesn't include whatever it is that you like, doesn't include gearing and serves only the pupose of "not being behind"
    Obligatory hours-long grind on every character before you start doing all of the above

    This all just looks like 8.3 is right now, and 8.3 is easily the worst patch I have ever played hands down

    Am I missing something? I really want shadowlands to take us back in the direction of good Gameplay, fun alts and so forward
    Is there something I missed in the dev vlog?
    That sounds like Super-Every-Expansion-Since-WoD not Super-8.3.
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  13. #253
    Quote Originally Posted by det View Post
    Not so secret anymore now that you revealed it

    Also, this just in: You do not have to do ANYTHING of this. It doesn't help you buy food, pay rent or do any other essential stuff in your life. This is supposed to entertain us. If it doesn't, we should find something else.

    The moment you think your life revolves (obligatory) about things in a video game.....it is time to re-evaluate your life (especially in the light of "This all just looks like 8.3 is right now, and 8.3 is easily the worst patch I have ever played hands down" - time to quit)

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    Again...blessed we are who are not living in a society that forces you with a gun to your head to spend money on WoW and play it. You don't wanna do this bullshit? Just don't. It seems so simple. You said it yourself. Saves money.
    All someone is doing is raising concerns of the direction the game is going and of course you can’t stand for that. Coming back with the "you don’t have to play it" is such a lame response and highlights the fact you haven’t really got anything to say but feel compelled to defend Blizzard anyway.

    Asking someone to re-evaluate their life in this matter is more than a bit rich coming from you. In the past 12 years you have subjected us all to over 35000 posts, mostly defending a company that died 10 years ago. That’s roughly 8 posts EVERY SINGLE DAY. If anyone needs to have a serious word with themselves it’s you.

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