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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seranthor View Post
    As it should be. It's Blizzard's property, and they have a right to monetize it how they see fit, which means they have a right to charge whatever they want for it. We as consumers have all the power in this transaction; We can chose to pay for it if we believe it is worth what they are asking, and we can chose not to pay if we dont believe its worth what they are asking.
    I strongly disagree that this is how it "should be".

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    Quote Originally Posted by WFD1992 View Post
    I strongly disagree that this is how it "should be".
    What you and or I believe 'should' be is irrelevant. There is no disputing it IS Blizzard's property and they can do as they please with it.

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  3. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by Mayia View Post
    lol.
    in the past we'd spend money on drinking smoking doing drugs with friends maybe it didn't seem like a sub but it was.. going to the bar or pub to drink and chat with friends is very similar to playing an online game but it gives you goals.
    you just have to know where rl and online play stops.. i dont have any rl so i'm doing it wrong.. but i prefer friends from far away. lol
    I'm sorry but do you not want to get TUrnt every single night while damaging your lungs!?!? Do you not want to share valuable memories with lovely people over the platform of cartoon characters?

    I think both are great for whoever wants to do whatever. It's a subjective choice as long as you don't overdo either. You're doing everything right especially if you plan to meet these people in the future

  4. #84
    I do have game pass and after the whole Hong Kong incident (with Blizzard supporting an openly genocidal government) I can't see myself spending a dime at Blizzard products. I might chance my mind later on but I am still very dissapointed with the company, one that I supported for decades. Its hard to ignore what they are doing. Gamepass is cool but I sub it mostly because of my older son.
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    Quote Originally Posted by korijenkins View Post
    You can enjoy it all you want, but the base question wasn't answered. Why should WoW even retain a subscription when an in-game shop is being pushed more and more and other services with the same or lower prices are sucking away WoW subscriptions?
    I gave two justifications but I didn't answer the base question? Your reading comprehension sucks.

  6. #86
    It costs less for a month than I earn in like 30 minutes, so its really easy to justify even if I played a few hours a week. I don't see the issue here

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    There is no need to justify it to anyone since everyone has to decide for themselves if it is worth.

    You can also be damn sure that blizz. has analyzing staff that would lower the price if they think the incoming players would offset it and make a profit, that'll probably never be the case though.

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    Amazon prime video is basically free since I'm allready prime.
    Yet I still pay for Netflix.

    Pretty obvious IMO, I don't know why it needed 5 pages...
    WoW isn't on game pass thus if you want to play wow, you pay for it. Reeeeally as simple as that.
    Who the fuck play soccer because "hey I hate it but it's cheaper than archery that I love". If you can afford what you want to do, just do it.
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    I gave up on any games with subs are its just forces me to play same game over and over again or it fells like i trow a money away.
    Same goes for any game pass or season pass or whatever.

    Also..for those who are still paying wow sub with money, check how much it came out over the years. You will probaly be disgusted with yourself. (i was)

    Realy anything that is a service type of deal is mostly a scam. Remember how nintendo is still scamming us with a internet sub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yunru View Post
    I gave up on any games with subs are its just forces me to play same game over and over again or it fells like i trow a money away.
    Same goes for any game pass or season pass or whatever.

    Also..for those who are still paying wow sub with money, check how much it came out over the years. You will probaly be disgusted with yourself. (i was)

    Realy anything that is a service type of deal is mostly a scam. Remember how nintendo is still scamming us with a internet sub.
    Not disgusted at all with what I've paid over the years. I was getting a ton of value for my dollar. Still hands down the best value I've ever gotten from a video game and it is even better now that I'll never have to pay another dime thanks to my gold getting me eternal Bnet balance. If you feel 'forced' to play the same thing over and over then yes MMOs and many other games aren't for you. I've rarely felt "FORCED" to do anything in gaming outside of some grinding here or there which is expected in the genre.

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    For me it's always the same : How many hours did i play this game.

    If i played for more hours than it cost me to buy it, then yes it was worth it. 15$/month sub fee, if i played more than 15 hours that month then yes it was worth. And i know i did way more than that at some points. So even the cost of the box was worth it with all the hours i've put into the game.

    It's way easier to check like that. "Is this game worth buying" becomes "will i play more than X hours of this game".

  12. #92
    I would rather own my games than rent them.

  13. #93
    After playing a heap of f2p mmos, I will gladly pay a subscription, the box price and for the expansions. F2P model is just pure greed, you end up paying way more over the longer run, or you end up resenting the game for being built to annoy you in to paying.

  14. #94
    Yeah because I play WoW and am not interested in other games at the moment

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    The monthly sub is like buffet in a restaurant.
    It is not for everyone.

    The sad part is that the companies prefer subscription business model, because many people pay for it but not use it.
    For example, many raiders are forced to keep sub right now, because they are afraid to loss their raid spots.

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    Game Pass + Microsoft Rewards = lots of free money, so there's that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yunru View Post
    I gave up on any games with subs are its just forces me to play same game over and over again or it fells like i trow a money away.
    Same goes for any game pass or season pass or whatever.

    Also..for those who are still paying wow sub with money, check how much it came out over the years. You will probaly be disgusted with yourself. (i was)

    Realy anything that is a service type of deal is mostly a scam. Remember how nintendo is still scamming us with a internet sub.
    not really. I've spent more on my other hobbies. I spend more on my current streaming subscriptions. I own DVD's of movies and show box sets that I enjoy enough to want to rewatch without worrying if steaming service will still have them available. I still subscribe, cause they provide extra content that interests me.

    its NOT a scam if they provide the content that they advertised you will get when you subscribe.

    and btw, its not just nintendo that asks you to pay to play online - with playstation, you need ps plus for most things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yunru View Post
    I gave up on any games with subs are its just forces me to play same game over and over again or it fells like i trow a money away.
    Same goes for any game pass or season pass or whatever.

    Also..for those who are still paying wow sub with money, check how much it came out over the years. You will probaly be disgusted with yourself. (i was)

    Realy anything that is a service type of deal is mostly a scam. Remember how nintendo is still scamming us with a internet sub.
    I pay for my sub since January 2005. Its been running without interruption, I spent money on server transferts (multiple caracters), race change, etc. I havent play in 6 months, it still runs. No I'm not "disgusted" with myself, I cherish the time I spent and the time I will spend when I come back for Shadowlands. I'd do it all over again.

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    This is sort of a weird area for me.

    Do I wish WoW were cheaper? Yes.
    Will I still pay the same price? Yes.

    I pay XBox Game Pass (5/mo) to play games that I grind through in a week or two, usually. I've played wow for 16 years. There isn't another game I could play so long, except maybe EVE if I did so.

    Is WoW worth $2800? Hard to say. Over 16 years... Maybe? Is my insurance for my car worth $30,000 since I've had it? Hell no. And yet its still a thing. While its not necessary. sometimes value isnt the same as enjoyment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by callipygoustp View Post
    Easily justifiable:
    1. The sub for WoW is a ridiculously low blip on my monthly expenditure chart.
    2. I still, and I know this is going to be shocking to some, I still really enjoy WoW.

    *boom* Justified.
    Exactly this....

    Different things have different values to different people.... so, yes, I can justify paying the WoW sub fee because I still like playing wow.

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