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  1. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by A Chozo View Post
    It's not pointless, he's right.

    Gear from old expansion doesn't work on new expansion.
    Tier sets with great set bonuses and gemslots from forever say hi.
    Legendaries say hi.
    Legiondaries (partly) say hi.
    God OP trinkets from forever say hi.
    Basically this has never happened before. And the reason this is happening is becuase this system was a clownfiesta from the get go.
    A character with the best gear poosible from the previous expansion was always ahead in leveling in the new expac. They never had to think on switching to greens, and had to think twice to equip a blue quest reward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onikaroshi View Post
    Compexity-Limit spent 257 million, no clue how much was borrowed though, and method probably spent more
    well the figures I quoted based on the max gives them 384 million gold

  3. #83
    All the people disingenously arguing "who would have thought previoues expansion gear getting replaced by greens herp derp".

    Thats not the point that is being made, it's the fact that said grind time is being made irrelevant before the expansion is released or we get a chance to experience said content.
    Legiondaries weren't removed prior to stepping foot into kul'tiras. Sure the artifacts were powered down in a bs move.

    For those claiming this has always happened please provide some further examples rather than some asinine dismissal because you fail to understand someones argument.

    it's not like tier set bonuses were removed in vanilla, tbc or wrath upon releasing the pre-patch for the next expansion, there is a big difference between replacing in new content or it being made invalid in new content but to remove it from "current content" completely is a bad move.

    Imagine the uproar if the brutosaur was removed from all those who had bought come pre-patch, rather than just the ability to buy it.

  4. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by VinceVega View Post
    It makes no sense.

    Why would you do anything in a game that gets frequent updates anyway then? Why play destiny 2 if in 1 year another expansion with better gear drops?

    Expansions ALWAYS resetted everything and many people actually like that. Me included.

    With your mindeset you should wait until wow is done completly then you can take the last peice of gear and be finsihed.

    Sometimes one would think people play the game because it has fun gameplay? Not just to be the most OP. That would just be OnePunch-Man the Game.

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    These stupid threads pop up everytime when an expansion ends... literally every time.
    in wows case i dont think its possible to do otherwise, it used to be that expansions resets were fine cuz that was always the norm
    but now resets happen every patch, it removes the fun ( for me at least ) and makes everything eelse pointless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kralljin View Post
    Counter question: Is the game balanced around solo'ing legacy content or Arena & current Mythic raids?

    It's not like those Infinite Stars one shots have been the only crazy thing corruption has been doing in PvP.
    Honestly? I have no idea what the game is balanced around. All I know is that I can't do the shizzle that those crazy guys can.

    But interested in what the other things are that corruption has been doing in pvp. Newsworthy for MMO C?

  6. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by letssee View Post
    in wows case i dont think its possible to do otherwise, it used to be that expansions resets were fine cuz that was always the norm
    but now resets happen every patch, it removes the fun ( for me at least ) and makes everything eelse pointless.
    Well... that is one of the things i don't think will ever change again for wow.

    This game had HORRIBLE problems for new or returning players to catch up in any way. People wanted it changed and they did. In Wotlk.

  7. #87
    Quote Originally Posted by Drusin View Post
    This sounds like a borrowed power thread. Borrowed power has to exist, if we kept getting new abilities and talents every xpac we'd have a ton of fucking shit, none of which could be balanced. Blizz could never add all of the shit they added for Legion weapons to the game that would stick around forever. Imagine trying to balance that, on top
    They could add spells and talents every xpac for the next 20 years and I would still have less abilities than I had in MoP and I had no problem with how many abilities I had then.
    Perhaps the current player skill level is just very very low?

  8. #88
    This argument countered in an easy question with an easy answer:
    Q-Did you benefit from the system in the current patch?
    A-Yes? Then it wasn’t a waste. No? Then you didn’t do anything in the game that it was necessary for and you have no reason to complain about a system that you don’t have to participate in.

    There. Ends all issue with the OP.

  9. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by Lei View Post
    Tier sets with great set bonuses and gemslots from forever say hi.
    Legendaries say hi.
    Legiondaries (partly) say hi.
    God OP trinkets from forever say hi.
    Basically this has never happened before. And the reason this is happening is becuase this system was a clownfiesta from the get go.
    A character with the best gear poosible from the previous expansion was always ahead in leveling in the new expac. They never had to think on switching to greens, and had to think twice to equip a blue quest reward.
    Don't forget how BiS purple gear from Wrath was instantly outclassed by a random green gear in Cata.

    This is normal for an expansion, and I can think of only two exceptions:
    - When I started WoD the gear on my lock was good and I only started replacing it in the last zone (IIRC).
    - You kept your legendary gear until 115.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrLachyG View Post
    I mean they had 3-4 months before their rep dropped to make back the gold. they could easily sell 4-6 carries a week for 6 million gold per carry. that's 24 million a week for 12-16 weeks. I don't know how much they borrowed though
    I think they were 65mill in the hole at the kill.
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  11. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by det View Post
    But interested in what the other things are that corruption has been doing in pvp. Newsworthy for MMO C?
    1.Stacking Gushing Wound makes it your primary source of damage.

    If you don't have Gushing wound in PvP, you can auto surrender any prolonged Battle.

    2.Tanks stacking TD and oneshotting people, doesn't work as consistently as Infinite Stars stacking however.

    I mean, we could also include things that were fixed earlier on:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kralljin View Post
    1.Stacking Gushing Wound makes it your primary source of damage.

    If you don't have Gushing wound in PvP, you can auto surrender any prolonged Battle.
    Oh...that one...thought it got nerfed

  13. #93
    Quote Originally Posted by det View Post
    Oh...that one...thought it got nerfed
    Nerfed doesn't mean it's no longer viable, it still offers consistent damage and is the best choice for any class that cannot abuse those stats multipliers in PvP (*ahem* Destro Locks).

  14. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by Sunslayer View Post
    They could add spells and talents every xpac for the next 20 years and I would still have less abilities than I had in MoP and I had no problem with how many abilities I had then.
    Perhaps the current player skill level is just very very low?
    I didn't say anything about player skill, I was talking about Blizzard having to balance everything.
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  15. #95
    Quote Originally Posted by Mardux View Post
    That's just WoW period.

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    How the fuck is that "spot on"?

    The 1! person who got lucky with stars procs and saved echoes for months to do something that got hotfixed in less than a week is an exception.

    And 20 tank solo mythic nzoth? It's like you chose not to read that retarded fucking sentence and just blindly agreed with the "person" that cant figure out the difference between 1 person and 20 people.
    Not sure why I respond to you again, but yes, corruption has many flaws. I agreed 100% with Kralljin's post about "Corruption is a top contender for the "most broken System in WoW". Just because you think it's cool, does not mean that corruption is a broken system. I mean, anyone can see that. Whether you think it's fun or not(I thought the concept was cool) got zero to do with it.

    But we know you are not here to discuss "your" opinion. You just go around everyday trying to tell people they are "wrong" with some nonsense arguments.
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  16. #96
    When I created this topic my concern was that I could not explain my opinion because English is not my first language ...! I believe that some people got my point but many are just telling me something like ...
    "Blizzard kills everything you do in the last expansion when a new one is coming. This is normal noob. Next."
    I've been playing since 2005 and I know it, dudes. Don't worry about it.
    What I'm questioning is about everything we spent months achieving with the cost of a lot of time and grind disappearing WITHOUT ANYTHING BEING PLACED IN PLACE! Okay, corruption power is going to disappear and I hate this system too! But I spent months to get it (otherwise my character is not viable in PVE or PVP...) and I think it is very unfair that nothing be added to us in exchange for that.
    The devs just say something like "next week everything you've achieved in the last few months goes to waste because a new system is coming .."! I don't agree with that. There should be a way for us to be rewarded for the time / grind we spend ...!
    You can disagree with me. I respect this! But that was what I wanted to talk about in the topic ..! So please stop with "This has always happened, maybe you are new". It is not the case here.
    Sorry about bad english.

  17. #97
    Quote Originally Posted by Fantazma View Post
    What I'm questioning is about everything we spent months achieving with the cost of a lot of time and grind disappearing WITHOUT ANYTHING BEING PLACED IN PLACE! Okay, corruption power is going to disappear and I hate this system too! But I spent months to get it (otherwise my character is not viable in PVE or PVP...) and I think it is very unfair that nothing be added to us in exchange for that
    We aren't really owed anything in terms of how much time we've spent grinding though. It'd be nice to have something in return but honestly corruptions are such a shit stain on the game that I really don't care if they take the "rip off the band aid" approach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fantazma View Post
    When I created this topic my concern was that I could not explain my opinion because English is not my first language ...! I believe that some people got my point but many are just telling me something like ...
    "Blizzard kills everything you do in the last expansion when a new one is coming. This is normal noob. Next."
    I've been playing since 2005 and I know it, dudes. Don't worry about it.
    What I'm questioning is about everything we spent months achieving with the cost of a lot of time and grind disappearing WITHOUT ANYTHING BEING PLACED IN PLACE! Okay, corruption power is going to disappear and I hate this system too! But I spent months to get it (otherwise my character is not viable in PVE or PVP...) and I think it is very unfair that nothing be added to us in exchange for that.
    The devs just say something like "next week everything you've achieved in the last few months goes to waste because a new system is coming .."! I don't agree with that. There should be a way for us to be rewarded for the time / grind we spend ...!
    You can disagree with me. I respect this! But that was what I wanted to talk about in the topic ..! So please stop with "This has always happened, maybe you are new". It is not the case here.
    Sorry about bad english.
    So you want a system to be added so you can have a bridge between the systems that currently exist in BFA but are going away, and the new systems that are coming in SL... is that accurate? Or are you saying you dont want them to remove the BFA systems because you worked so hard to get them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seranthor View Post
    So you want a system to be added so you can have a bridge between the systems that currently exist in BFA but are going away, and the new systems that are coming in SL... is that accurate? Or are you saying you dont want them to remove the BFA systems because you worked so hard to get them?
    I would like each type of resource, relics, essences, atefact power, honor, conquest, corruption, X-coins, etc., etc., etc. and no matter what this is called ... it disappears to have the new resources in the new expansion ... BUT ... not just disappear ... but that they could be exchanged for items, gold, or anything useful that could be used in the next expansion.
    Every new expansion is always the same. They say:
    "Be happy boys !!! All the resources you have obtained in the last two years will be thrown away and you will now start a new adventure".
    But I would like to hear something like:
    "Be happy boys !!! All the resources you have obtained in the last two years can be exchanged for some useful resources to use in the next expansion, or gold, or green or blue items at vendors ... so you can start the next expansion without feeling like you've lost something".
    Am I asking too much?
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  20. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by AlmightyGerkin View Post
    It'll be funny to see if Limit and Method can pay off their debt.
    Hope they cant, the race for realm first is just stupid

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