SPOILERS: Shadowlands Lore Thread

[Combatbutler]

I think creating a weapon that destroys souls puts a threat on the cosmos, which is one of the reasons to be sent to the Maw.

I think they value souls more than actual life. The Manabomb completely destroys souls, leaving nothing to go to the Shadowlands.

But they don't

[Arrashi]

But they don't

Well for what we know, old men and cows are immune. Perhaps others aren't as fortunate.

[Combatbutler]

Well for what we know, old men and cows are immune. Perhaps others aren't as fortunate.

It is obviously the cows, or more precisely their milk. The people in Kirin Var all drank milk on a regular basis, which strengthened their souls. ;P

[TheFirstOnes]

Seems realms like the Nether, the Shadowlands, etc work in similar manners tbh...

Which should mean there's only 1 Pantheon of Death, 1 Jailer, etc.

[masterjc]

The sinstone for Archetus the Mad Designer seems to mention an as-yet unseen realm in the Shadowlands: Craftenium. Would appear to be an afterlife for those whose purpose in life was devoted to architecture, engineering, or similar professions, based on context at least.

lol, I didnot look at name at first.


https://www.wowhead.com/news=318186/...ure-draka-reun





We’ve done some stuff that’s involved with time travel and alternate realities. What happens to those souls when they pass on? Do they go to the Shadowlands?

This is a complicated question. How do you deal with things like alternate Draenor? There was a Draka there. What is that Draka? Is she alive? Is she dead? Is she related to the Draka in Shadowlands that we see? Or is there another Draka? We know that in Warlords of Draenor, Velen of that universe died. Does that mean there is a Velen in the Shadowlands? But what about the Velen in Azeroth? All these things are very complicated questions.

The way I would have you think about it is think of a rope… If you look at a rope, it is one thing, right? It’s something that you can grab onto, you can hold it, you can see it; think of that as a character. Think of that rope as Draka or Velen.

If you look at that rope more closely, you can see there are different threads that make up the rope. There are different twines that pull together, and you can pull off one of these threads if you want. But it’s still a rope, and each of those threads you can think of as one of the realities of the character, one of the streams of time… There is a thread that is the Draka from Draenor we visited in the Warlords of Draenor. There is another thread that is Draka on Azeroth as we know her… And there are many other threads that could be other realities that we never peered into. But all of those threads at some time come together to make that rope. And remember also that, as you’ll see, that there are many characters in the Shadowlands when they refer to time, they usually say that time is not a construct of Death. Time and Death are not related. Death is about eternity, not linear time. The manner in which these threads come together, that can take a very long time from mortal perceptions. Those threads can be separated for a time, but sooner or later, they do combine to make one rope that is that character. You can think of it as the threads of that rope, all the individual threads, are just waiting. And over time, they will come together but they can exist as separate entities for a time. That still doesn’t change the fact that they are part of one rope.









i hoped Blizzard would forget that AU Draenor ever existed, but no, they are adding more stuff.

p.s. does time go same way in MU and AU?
if AU has year 35, is in MU year 35 as well?
if character A dies year 34 in MU, and his AU version dies year 38 and au2 dies year 38, where do these threads go?
imagine Garrosh, MU version was noted to be worse version ever existed.
if AU Garroshs were great persons, now united Garrosh is suffering in Revendreth, because MU Garrosh was jerk?

stupid is not it?

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Although the world map for the Shadowlands (pictured right) depicts the realms of the Shadowlands on a flat plane, this is only a top-down view. In reality, the Shadowlands are an infinite three-dimensional space, and Revendreth is the zone that is lowest down and closest to the Maw. Similarly, while Maldraxxus appears to be adjacent to the Maw, it's not being directly affected by it in the same way that Revendreth is



wow.

[Pebrocks The Warlock]

There's a Sinstone of a Night Elf in Revendreth.....who died in the Fourth War.....which should be impossible if all Souls are going to the Maw. Is this an oversight or intentional?

Faedra Ambershade
Faedra lived and died a hero of Teldrassil.


Every time her name was spoken, it was lauded with the greatest of reverence to her bravery, her resolve, and the many lives she saved while the fires of the world tree burned brightly.


And yet the voices of those she left behind for their petty rivalries in life, would remain forever silenced.

https://wow.gamepedia.com/Faedra_Ambershade_(sinstone)

[Combatbutler]

There's a Sinstone of a Night Elf in Revendreth.....who died in the Fourth War.....which should be impossible if all Souls are going to the Maw. Is this an oversight or intentional?

A typical consistency error, there are quite a few in the shadowlands

[Super Dickmann]

Remember, destroying worlds worth of people can still get you repentance, but not designing a large bomb. Unless you also screwed with another cosmic power then you might earn redemption. If you get tricked by a dreadlord, you're being tortured by vampires until they beat the retardation out of you, but if you work with the Burning Legion to destroy the universe, you're basically okay and can go to Maldraxxus right away as a tireless defender of the living.

The Arbiter's decision-making is wild. It's a shame it's entirely unintentional because the process being bullshit and decided by whether the Arbiter likes the group you're fucking over in life or not would be great if done on purpose and is still funny as is.

[bagina]

The Arbiter's decision-making is wild. It's a shame it's entirely unintentional because the process being bullshit and decided by whether the Arbiter likes the group you're fucking over in life or not would be great if done on purpose and is still funny as is.

The Arbiter works in mysterious ways. We cannot hope to begin to comprehend her divine plan. Trust in the Purpose, believer!

[LemonDemonGirl]

There's a Sinstone of a Night Elf in Revendreth.....who died in the Fourth War.....which should be impossible if all Souls are going to the Maw. Is this an oversight or intentional?

https://wow.gamepedia.com/Faedra_Ambershade_(sinstone)

There's also a troll in Revedreth, so I think it might've just been a mistake

[Varodoc]

Seems like the Arbiter hates the Light, which means Alleria and her people are guaranteed a place in Heaven at the Arbiter's side for their good deeds in life. Ah, everything is as it should be.

[Verdugo]

Seems like the Arbiter hates the Light, which means Alleria and her people are guaranteed a place in Heaven at the Arbiter's side for their good deeds in life. Ah, everything is as it should be.

She spent half of "thousand years of Rick and Morty dot com" working for worst of them all without any attempt at sabotage other than some "teen rebel" phase that landed her in prison.

And Void is also considered enemy of Shadowlands.

[Nerovar]

One of the first to assume the mantle of Blood Knight, Sharth Voldoun had the courage and tenacity to lead the team who created the first true mana bomb to be unleashed upon the mortal plane.


While such an act would normally lead to his immediate exile to the Maw, it was his dedication to forced manipulation of the vile naaru that earned him a chance at redemption in Revendreth.

Obligatory reference to the upcoming "Light bad" or "there's 0 difference between good & bad things" expansion?

[Timester]

Seems like the Arbiter hates the Light, which means Alleria and her people are guaranteed a place in Heaven at the Arbiter's side for their good deeds in life. Ah, everything is as it should be.

Void is also an enemy of Death, so no.

[kingfire]

Very unpredictable. But in the end it makes sense.

[masterjc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKZM...hannel=LeystTV

Margrave Sin'Dane, leader of House of Rituals was manipulated by Kel'Thuzard, who served as her baron. it appears, Sin'dane was betrayed by him, and drained for power. she is released in the end. seems she is only Margrave who survives (leader of Eyes was killed in afterlives: maldraxxus, leader of Plagues is dungeonboss, she was betrayed by necromancers and is plagued to madness, leader of Chosen (good one), is kileld by enemy, and leader of Construcs is killed by player)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCpX...hannel=LeystTV
bastion cutscenes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZOA...hannel=LeystTV
ardenweald cutscenes

all are WIP

[Tarba]

Everything seems cringe.

[Arrashi]

Everything seems cringe.

This wonderfully sums up my feelings about shadowlands in general.

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Remember, destroying worlds worth of people can still get you repentance, but not designing a large bomb. Unless you also screwed with another cosmic power then you might earn redemption. If you get tricked by a dreadlord, you're being tortured by vampires until they beat the retardation out of you, but if you work with the Burning Legion to destroy the universe, you're basically okay and can go to Maldraxxus right away as a tireless defender of the living.

The Arbiter's decision-making is wild. It's a shame it's entirely unintentional because the process being bullshit and decided by whether the Arbiter likes the group you're fucking over in life or not would be great if done on purpose and is still funny as is.

You know what would be amazing plot twist? Arbiter is just some shitty malfunctioning machine and everyone is too stupid to realise that.

[bagina]

You know what would be amazing plot twist? Arbiter is just some shitty malfunctioning machine and everyone is too stupid to realise that.

The groundwork is even already there. You'd think they'd be all over that stuff since they love subverting the expectations so much... Like with Maldraxxus: "What if the scourge... but GOOD?? Expectations subverted".

[Syegfryed]

A typical consistency error, there are quite a few in the shadowlands

consistency problems with World of warcraft???? lately? it can't be