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    Quote Originally Posted by Malikath View Post
    and since nazjatar and mechagon had massive revanchist streaks in their systems rewarding more deterministically then previous many stuck to retail as it adopted more and more classical WoW game design elements such as the afore mentioned anti-air.
    There is absolutely no similarities between the game design of Mechagon and Nazjatar and anything in Classic.
    They're two worlds apart when it comes to content and gameplay.

    Not even deterministic rewards were a thing in patch 8.2 because the BiS gear was the Nazjatar casino trying to get the best 'corruption-lite' like effects + gem socket.
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    Grizzly did it therefore that's how it is for everyone.

    It's precisely the same as when APES did MC at level 55 in greens. After that, it's how everyone did it.

    The exceptions ARE the rule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by det View Post
    The only way to fuck with this system would have been for Blizzard to go "SURPRISE...to keep this interesting, the war effort requires totally DIFFERENT items than back in 2006"
    Honestly think this would have been amazing.
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    Damnit hubcap, you are such a retard.
    Seriously guys, this forum would be a better place if everyone just stopped acknowledging Zenkai. It's just demeaning to everyone.

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    OP, that's not how correlation OR causation works. Remotely. For Sulfuras to have sped through the war effort so quickly, they would have had to play the game in order to amass and stockpile the resources necessary. If you're going to get smug about something, make sure you're not that one kid from Jimmy Neutron. You know the one, the really stupid kid with the unplaceable accent who's convinced he's a genius. Can't remember his name, CBA to dig it up. Point being, don't be an ass and wrong. It's not a good look.
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    This is a total non-issue. This guild did all of it, which I consider quite impressive. Our server is about 68% done as of speaking. There is a stockpile being held back until we know that the assigned Scarab Lords is ready to finish in the 5 day interim, so that we can pop the gate the second the supplies arrive.

    Really, the "event" that people want to see is the opening. Which will be a total mess with Blizzards horribly optimized servers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malikath View Post
    nah, nice reaching though, Stretch armstrong.
    retail wow also saw a activity increase when it incorporated classical systems in nazjatar and mechagon, as we haven't seen anti air mechanics since BC.
    People know what they want, Brack needs to leave the industry.
    players know what they want? sure. whatever it is they dont have.

    im sure brack will take your advice and leave. or more likely ignore you completely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AeneasBK View Post
    Grizzly did it therefore that's how it is for everyone.

    It's precisely the same as when APES did MC at level 55 in greens. After that, it's how everyone did it.

    The exceptions ARE the rule.

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    Honestly think this would have been amazing.
    its more fun to let people speed through the only content they will see for months in a few weeks. listening to people pining for "new classic content" is fun.

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    OP: Gais stop don't turn in all that stuff your ruining the EXPERIENCE!! it has to be random! and like 3/4ths of the server needs to just randomly give a bandaid every so often WHY ISN'T IT 2004 ANYMORE!

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    What people really expected? This classic community can really optimize fun the fuck out of the game...

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    They wanted it so bad they made sure to get it done so they could enter AQ in the shortest amount of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corroc View Post
    https://classic.wowhead.com/news=317...rs-on-sulfuras

    Maybe Brack was right all along. I wouldn't be suprised if Blizzard knew all along that this would happen (give or take a few hours/days). It shouldn't be hard to predict that the community would just blast over any kind of unique experience that made classic what it was. Classic wasn't hard, but it was unique. This just looks like people playing the game with "how-to" guide in their hand.
    rofl

    Classic has been going strong since it was launched, nearly a year ago. You've people predicted that it wouldn't last more than a couple of weeks, then a couple of months, then six months, and now you are trying to non-sequitur this event.

    Give it up. Classic doomsayers were wrong. It doesn't matter if Classic completely falls apart tomorrow; you were wrong from the beginning. You can keep stretching the goal posts until you are blue in the face, but it will never change the fact that you were wrong.

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    I feel Classic WoW was a blessing to the retail community just as much as it was with the Classic community, under one sub they are lured to play classic but also have retail there too, or vise verse, I know many people who returned for classic but have dipped their foot in retail too.

    I really do not care for this classic vs retail argument, its toxic and very anti constructive, I feel both have been blessed by it existing, whether you think one is better than the other is your own personal opinion

    But what is true is WoW has seen a rise in subs since Classic WoW and thats good for both games in the end

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corroc View Post
    https://classic.wowhead.com/news=317...rs-on-sulfuras

    Maybe Brack was right all along. I wouldn't be suprised if Blizzard knew all along that this would happen (give or take a few hours/days). It shouldn't be hard to predict that the community would just blast over any kind of unique experience that made classic what it was. Classic wasn't hard, but it was unique. This just looks like people playing the game with "how-to" guide in their hand.
    I know you thought you were being smart there, but you involuntarily contradict your own argument.

    Players investing insane amounts of time to prepare for this event & unlock content only goes to show they love this game. You wouldn't invest that much time and effort for any game or activity you don't enjoy a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vitor210 View Post
    exactly this! It's really sad, though. These guys are the ones that ruined classic for players like me, that never played back in the day.
    Next time - Get in on the ground floor of a new MMO if you want this type of experience.

    You're never, EVER going to get it from a game that's been out for almost 2 decades. Even if it's re-released. People are simply far too familiar with its systems, they already know what to do at every single turn. They already know everything about the next raids, too. Classic was never going to be a return to innocence. How could it be?

    There are a couple of MMO's releasing this year, start those on launch day if you want an experience like the one you're seeking.

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    No one really cares, the reward is a legendary mount that will forever be stuck on your classic characters unless they allow people to earn mounts and transmog that unlock in retail (which they should have as it would have brought way more people into classic.) woopitydooooo lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orby View Post
    I feel Classic WoW was a blessing to the retail community just as much as it was with the Classic community, under one sub they are lured to play classic but also have retail there too, or vise verse, I know many people who returned for classic but have dipped their foot in retail too.

    I really do not care for this classic vs retail argument, its toxic and very anti constructive, I feel both have been blessed by it existing, whether you think one is better than the other is your own personal opinion

    But what is true is WoW has seen a rise in subs since Classic WoW and thats good for both games in the end
    It's true. Personally I've met a few people in classic that never played BFA before but started to after playing classic for a bit and now say they are excited for shadowlands. Anyone still playing classic right now seems pretty enthusiastic about it, and I bet most classic players are going to at least try shadowlands.

    That said there's also a lot of people (like myself) that are kind of dissapointed that the go-go-go mentality of retail carried over into classic as it definitely degrades the experience imo. But it's still fun to jump on and toss some shadowbolts and farm some rep/gold. There's always something to do too since grinding and farming gear, gold, rep, whatever is so important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zylos View Post
    It's true. Personally I've met a few people in classic that never played BFA before but started to after playing classic for a bit and now say they are excited for shadowlands. Anyone still playing classic right now seems pretty enthusiastic about it, and I bet most classic players are going to at least try shadowlands.

    That said there's also a lot of people (like myself) that are kind of dissapointed that the go-go-go mentality of retail carried over into classic as it definitely degrades the experience imo. But it's still fun to jump on and toss some shadowbolts and farm some rep/gold. There's always something to do too since grinding and farming gear, gold, rep, whatever is so important.
    Funny you say that because those people I mentioned that returned to WoW for classic have that very same complaint about retail when they jumped back in, but they don;t mind too much because they have classic. :P

    Classic and retail are just very different games right now. Classic is just a slower game and thats usually a good and bad thing for me. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corroc View Post
    Maybe Brack was right all along.
    Of course he was. Ironically though, by saying it, it simply catalyzed the desire for Classic. There is no power in the universe capable of getting someone to want something than by telling them that they don't actually want it.

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    Blizz should have changed the materials needed (and telling us that they would) so you couldnt prefarm everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raelbo View Post
    Of course he was. Ironically though, by saying it, it simply catalyzed the desire for Classic. There is no power in the universe capable of getting someone to want something than by telling them that they don't actually want it.
    Are you suggesting that Brack made a 4000 IQ move in making the statement and that they were already working on it!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corroc View Post
    https://classic.wowhead.com/news=317...rs-on-sulfuras

    Maybe Brack was right all along. I wouldn't be suprised if Blizzard knew all along that this would happen (give or take a few hours/days). It shouldn't be hard to predict that the community would just blast over any kind of unique experience that made classic what it was. Classic wasn't hard, but it was unique. This just looks like people playing the game with "how-to" guide in their hand.
    I dont think this proves what you think it does lmao
    Let's look at the test results. You are a horrible person. It says right here, you're a horrible person. We weren't even testing that. Don't let the horrible person thing get you down though. Science justified your parents choice to abandon you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corroc View Post
    https://classic.wowhead.com/news=317...rs-on-sulfuras

    Maybe Brack was right all along. I wouldn't be suprised if Blizzard knew all along that this would happen (give or take a few hours/days). It shouldn't be hard to predict that the community would just blast over any kind of unique experience that made classic what it was. Classic wasn't hard, but it was unique. This just looks like people playing the game with "how-to" guide in their hand.
    Worry about yourself and how you play, and let other people worry about themselves and how they play.

    People getting the AQ stuff done in 14 hours on that server has absolutely zero effect on you (outside of your need to whine about it) and your gameplay. What did you expect? That people were going to coat themselves in molasses and play Classic slowly for the sake of playing slowly?

    Its 2020, not 2004. Of course people are gonna blow through this shit.
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