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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by A Chozo View Post
    Calling shit "gated" behind other stuff is manipulative. They are all just rewards, otherwise that hippopotamus PvP mount is gated behind PvP for me, which is asinine.
    Mounts don't impact the gameplay. How can you be so dense?

  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by clownpenisfart View Post
    Mounts don't impact the gameplay.
    It is irrelevant. They are still rewards from doing content, like essences.

    If you want the power-up, beat the challenge imposed by the game. If you somehow can't, you aren't playing at a level that needs such reward anyway.

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by A Chozo View Post
    It is irrelevant. They are still rewards from doing content, like essences.
    No. You don't need vanity mounts to play the game, but you need essences, so that's a false equivalency. About the third one you've used so far during this annoying exchange. False equivalencies are a waste of everyone's time. I think talking with a loaf of bread would be more interesting than talking with you.

  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by Boiled-Lobster View Post
    Here's two things that bother me;

    Essences still gated behind their content ( both pvp en pve ) and the current powercreep levels.

    Its so incredibly blunt, daft and stupid that CORRUPTION brings.
    Getting rekt in pvp while grinding 30k honor for an essence that is bis in pve.


    Some probably say, 30k ez, git gud and whatever else the new generation says.

    But the real issue is the painful, horrendous grind. I've literally spent 1 hour and a half in bgs for 1.7k ( !! ) honor as alliance lost 3 matches in a row. Its so hidious that ive really considered to unsub ( which would result in a day or 2 as this is my source of... relaxation ( I know right, contradiction ) but as of now theres nothing that is enjoyable outside pve ( im not much of a pvp player, i do read guides and all though, so its not a rant without effortable actions in learning curve

    EDIT: since small minded people appear to see this as whine/complain thread;
    No, I don't mind the grind, it's the retarded balance in PVP thanks to CORRUPTION which, currently, make it absolutely horrendous, it's incredibly slow paced compared to rep gate grind.
    1 hour and a half?

    Omg, you poor thing.

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by Biomega View Post
    If you object to the system, unsub and let them know.

    That's the only currency you have, as a consumer.

    If you complain but keep playing, that's exactly the same as telling them "keep going, I'm fine with this."
    Sadly alot of people don't go this advice root.

  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by clownpenisfart View Post
    No. You don't need vanity mounts to play the game, but you need essences
    You don't need the BiS essences to play the game either, yet here you are, resorting to insults instead of having a regular conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boiled-Lobster View Post

    I know right? Makes me look equal to the new generation right ?
    Not the exact same words i would use, but sure lets stick to that.
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    Crabs have been removed from the game... because if I see another one I’m just going to totally lose it. *sobbing* I’m sorry, I just can’t right now... I just... OK just give me a minute, I’ll be OK..

  8. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by clownpenisfart View Post
    No. You don't need vanity mounts to play the game, but you need essences, so that's a false equivalency. About the third one you've used so far during this annoying exchange. False equivalencies are a waste of everyone's time. I think talking with a loaf of bread would be more interesting than talking with you.
    You dont NEED essences to play the game. GG.

  9. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by Kehego View Post
    I stand by my point. Outlaw rogue had agatha, you had more than enough cleave to keep imps down all the time. Outlaw wasn't even the most difficult rogue one, that was sub.
    Negative. You must either be new or didn't try doing tower until severely outgearing the challenge.

    MMOC did an unofficial break down of completion and the bottom was tanks (sans guardian) and outlaw rogues all below Guardian and then the rest of the specs.

    https://www.mmo-champion.com/content...DLC-584?page=2

    Outlaw cleave was not a thing, you still needed to focus down specific imps.

    The sin challenge was a joke. The sub one almost equally so as it only required positioning.

    Agatha was a joke to most other classes. Namely feral (lol) and ele (which with proper legendaries could just stand and burn.

    All I'm saying is that of all DPS specs, outlaw was right there struggling with (if not more than) most tanks/healers. You'd be a fool to think otherwise.

    Quote Originally Posted by Willhouse View Post
    Chill,wow classic is gonna last 2 months top once ppl see how horrid it was,theres gonna be 10k ppl online across all classic realms within 2 months.Meanwhile i'm preparing my "i told you so.." speech XD

  10. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by Sparklelord View Post
    Negative. You must either be new or didn't try doing tower until severely outgearing the challenge.

    MMOC did an unofficial break down of completion and the bottom was tanks (sans guardian) and outlaw rogues all below Guardian and then the rest of the specs.

    https://www.mmo-champion.com/content...DLC-584?page=2

    Outlaw cleave was not a thing, you still needed to focus down specific imps.

    The sin challenge was a joke. The sub one almost equally so as it only required positioning.

    Agatha was a joke to most other classes. Namely feral (lol) and ele (which with proper legendaries could just stand and burn.

    All I'm saying is that of all DPS specs, outlaw was right there struggling with (if not more than) most tanks/healers. You'd be a fool to think otherwise.
    Outlaw's participation rate on that chart was low because outlaw was the worst raiding/M+ spec for rogues so the participation % was low.
    People played outlaw to do the challenge and then never again 9/10 times.

    Of the specs that did agatha (and weren't low participation specs like feral), only outlaw and ele have lowish completion rates. Fury warriors which have just as much, if not less cleave than outlaw did at the time, has a higher completion rate because it was played more. Hell, all the chart does is show which specs were popular at the time the armory scan was done. Outlaw then isn't outlaw now.

    Also, I did my rogue mid ToS in LFR gear, all you had to do was gouge one of the 2 imps that spawned from behind, kill them in order and go back to agatha. You had more than enough cleave to kill the imps that spawned in groups. How else do you think fury/unholy/feral did it?

  11. #71
    Wait, are you insinuating that you need to actually do certain content to get certain rewards? What in the absolute hell.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boiled-Lobster View Post
    Here's two things that bother me;

    Essences still gated behind their content ( both pvp en pve ) and the current powercreep levels.

    Its so incredibly blunt, daft and stupid that CORRUPTION brings.
    Getting rekt in pvp while grinding 30k honor for an essence that is bis in pve.


    Some probably say, 30k ez, git gud and whatever else the new generation says.

    But the real issue is the painful, horrendous grind. I've literally spent 1 hour and a half in bgs for 1.7k ( !! ) honor as alliance lost 3 matches in a row. Its so hidious that ive really considered to unsub ( which would result in a day or 2 as this is my source of... relaxation ( I know right, contradiction ) but as of now theres nothing that is enjoyable outside pve ( im not much of a pvp player, i do read guides and all though, so its not a rant without effortable actions in learning curve

    EDIT: since small minded people appear to see this as whine/complain thread;
    No, I don't mind the grind, it's the retarded balance in PVP thanks to CORRUPTION which, currently, make it absolutely horrendous, it's incredibly slow paced compared to rep gate grind.

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