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  1. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by Moozart View Post
    Wasn't Method a part of this Gallwix?
    Almost every guild in top 100 was, including Limit. Majority of boosts were legit gold only, just someone decided to sell gold for money. Probably one of the higher ups that makes tens of millions a month.

  2. #122
    Quote Originally Posted by Clozer View Post
    The higher ups made millions and millions of gold. How do you think they paid for all the ads on all the websites? How did they pay the guilds and streamers to put ads on their sites?

    This obviously was RMT - for years now. Imagine a higher-up making about 50 million gold a month(that's prob nothing to what the cut of the higher-ups really was). If this "manager" sold that for a little bit less than the wow Token prices he made around 6k $$$ a month. For doing nothing but earning the cut. It's so stupid. All communities with a structure like this should be banned. It's so obvious what they are doing.
    This is not far from the truth. I remember being in the boosting community that came before Gallywix. Those I knew in the top got from 5-25mil gold a month and im sure it has only gotten worse. I myself made 8m gold in 1,5 month at the end of Legion. The guild eventually broke down as it came to light that some of the founders used RMT.

    Im happy to be out. It did not feel like a game at all at that point, and I hated the spamming then just as much as I do now, though it has gotten even worse these days. Tbh I didnt even feel like I had really earned the gold as I felt with all my previous gold. Boosting communities really haven't been great for the state of the game. Thats my 2 cent anyway.

  3. #123
    Quote Originally Posted by Clozer View Post
    The higher ups made millions and millions of gold. How do you think they paid for all the ads on all the websites? How did they pay the guilds and streamers to put ads on their sites?

    This obviously was RMT - for years now. Imagine a higher-up making about 50 million gold a month(that's prob nothing to what the cut of the higher-ups really was). If this "manager" sold that for a little bit less than the wow Token prices he made around 6k $$$ a month. For doing nothing but earning the cut. It's so stupid. All communities with a structure like this should be banned. It's so obvious what they are doing.
    I don't think they sold the gold as such. There are third party websites who sell mythic Nyalotha, someone got to do these runs. So the 50 million gold go to guilds doing the boost set up by Galywix whose owners pocketed the €$ from third party websites.

  4. #124
    Quote Originally Posted by Toby451 View Post
    Wow, you cant truly be this dense???


    They implemented the WoW token because they KNEW there was no way to stop RMT. WoW token gives people a safe way to do it instead of going to one of many different shady 3rd party sites, risking compromising both your game account and RL identity.



    But sure, Blizzard is completely evil and everything they do is to nickle and dime their playerbase, blah blah blah.
    They implemented the token since they did nothing against gold buyers/sellers. And the people liked this, they asked for it.

    Just look at what happened at the end of SOO and since then. Last raid has items people want....... that they gladly pay gold for.

  5. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by Asrialol View Post
    There hasn't actually been anything deleted so far as far as I can see.

    "Kekw". Alright, so now we know you're an immature adult. Which is why I am surprised, shockingly so, you didn't post your discord name or PM it to me.

    There's no point discussing this when all you have to do is give me your discord name, and I can check which one of us has made the most gold in the past, say, 6-12 or 12-24 months depending on how long you've been an advertiser.

    Prove how "fake" I am. Go on. You know what you have to do. Prove me wrong.
    This is pretty fun to read to be honest. As far as I'm concerned you're both equally guilty and a massive part of the "problem". I'm not naive enough to believe boosting is going to fall or even noticeably decrease in any way, but I'm not going to lie and say I wouldn't be happy if it did!

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    Apperenly ≈ 5.6 bilion gold left the game with these bans:

    https://twitter.com/eyriewow/status/...702899717?s=20

    Wonder if token price will be affected, and by how much.
    Last edited by Makabreska; 2020-08-04 at 12:01 PM.

  7. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero View Post
    I love how people act like capitalism and communism are the only economies in existence. It's as if they just forget about democratic socialism. As for your other point, no. Capitalism only gives people a chance if they come from a rich family. There isn't a single multi-millionaire or billionaire that started from nothing with no help. Becoming that rich requires you to exploit the system, exploit workers, and have someone that is willing to throw you a massive amount of cash when you're in trouble. Capitalism really is no better than communism in a lot of ways.
    I know a millionair that came from an uneducated family, had nothing and no support, but good ideas, personally.

    And that a lot of you guys dream about socialism, maybe it's because you are from the US, as we see one of the biggest shitholes in the world.
    There are countries that experimented with socialism aspects, unconditional basic income etc, and the people ended in the same situation as with capitalism.
    The poor in the end were still the poorest, those who were rich before worked with the same money and became rich again.
    Finland just stopped that kind of experiment, the only positive effect was that the poorest had more safety, but beside that it had no effects. Those who did not work before (because of QQ herpaderp capitalism) did not even try to change their situation most of the time, even though they had their guaranteed income and no risks anymore. Beside that it led to a bigger inflation. And if you do not allow the prices to rise you are leaving socialism again and are full communism.
    Socialism is good for the lazy and only a handful of people who deserve more. Beside that it was not too different to capitalism.
    Both work under a free market and a good position in the market gives them strength.

    The people decide who has this strength. And coming back to the topic, it's the people who bought that shit for real money. There wouldn't be any offering for stuff like that if the people don't buy it.
    If the people won't buy your stuff you won't be succesful. In either capitalism or socalism. And as the people decide what they want to buy it follows a democratic capitalism/socialism. There is no capitalism without the democratic decision of the people beside monopoles. And there is a reason countries try to stop these all the time.
    Last edited by Poopsnacker; 2020-08-04 at 12:09 PM.

  8. #128
    Quote Originally Posted by Zan15 View Post
    No one can make money but us, bawhahahaha.


    whelp this won't stop here, from the ashes 2 more groups will form just like the last time.

    if you see the spam and don't use CC_Cleaner/Badboy then its your own fault.

    Also helps if they would facilitate a way to transfer gold between realms.
    Some groups are sitting on 130+m gold they have stuck on servers and can't get to their main guild to spend and there is no gold on their server to support their guild activities
    Inf4 if you get assaulted and dont use "personal bodyguard" its your own fault.

  9. #129
    One step closer to stop the aids that is boosting and boost spamming, I still cannot fathom why blizzard allows the trade chat to be spammed to death like this. Why haven't they made a seperate channel or even a notice board you can post your runs to and get it away from the trade channel

  10. #130
    Quote Originally Posted by MrFrag View Post
    They should start banning multiboxers as well(with an investigation ofcourse). I mean you might have 2-3 account but when it comes to 5x + accounts, it's obvious that they want to flood market with tons of boe,mounts,herbs etc. then they start ruining auction house. Blizzard needs to make a full investigation on those guys as well, possibly most of them selling golds, maybe some of them even botting. Boosting is easy because content is easy ,so a lot of people are doing it and possibly they are selling gold for real money too.
    So Blizzard can make content harder like you need everybody's effort in a dungeon/raid so less people do it and it will narrow down a huge amount of wow population for an easier inspection. Also a player shouldn't able to connect Blizzard servers with more than 5x accounts or they should define a number for it for fixing this multiboxing nonsense.
    Hey look another they should ban multi boxers sigh.....won't happen so leave it be they make money off multi boxers plain and simple

  11. #131
    Quote Originally Posted by GreenJesus View Post
    Assuming that that wouldn't happen in communism..
    The world is not either capitalism or communism. And there is a degree to everything.

  12. #132
    Quote Originally Posted by Zan15 View Post
    Some groups are sitting on 130+m gold they have stuck on servers and can't get to their main guild to spend and there is no gold on their server to support their guild activities
    You can make a guild on that server and transfer it for the price of 3 tokens, guild carries 10 million gold so you lose less than 10% of it.

  13. #133
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...TutrUGuHPkOpRQ

    Here is Method(now knows as "Echo") buying boe's with real money for Nyalotha race.

  14. #134
    Quote Originally Posted by xeddin View Post
    good, all trade chat is these days is these guys spamming non-stop
    What else is going to go in the trade channel? If I want things I go to the AH like everyone else.

    The first thing I do on every toon is leave Trade and General. It's just boost spam and the same Anal [Thunderfury] shit that's been going on since Vanilla.

  15. #135
    Quote Originally Posted by Danvash View Post
    That investigation took them a really long time for something that has been quite obvious to everyone since Gallywix started doing business. Streamers boosting for Gallywix even confirmed that they donate real money to their patreons in a totally-not-RWT manner. But still, I'm glad Blizzard is taking action because this will cut down on the spam in Trade on every realm.
    That is because you don't understand how these things actually work. Blizzard doesn't go simply on "It's obvious they are gold selling, so they are auytomatically banned". They actually have to find this thing called "proof". Your way would get innocent people in trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NtflxnChill View Post
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...TutrUGuHPkOpRQ

    Here is Method(now knows as "Echo") buying boe's with real money for Nyalotha race.
    Because you can prove those screengrabs are 100% legit and not faked in any way, right? Oh right, you can't prove that.

  16. #136
    Quote Originally Posted by rrayy View Post
    That is because you don't understand how these things actually work. Blizzard doesn't go simply on "It's obvious they are gold selling, so they are auytomatically banned". They actually have to find this thing called "proof". Your way would get innocent people in trouble.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Because you can prove those screengrabs are 100% legit and not faked in any way, right? Oh right, you can't prove that.
    Calm down Method simp.

  17. #137
    About time they addressed that money grubbing goblin...

  18. #138
    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    Apperenly ≈ 5.6 bilion gold left the game with these bans:

    https://twitter.com/eyriewow/status/...702899717?s=20

    Wonder if token price will be affected, and by how much.
    Likely not by much.If people doing the carries got hit that gold was likely to of been horded till sl launch for boes. If it was a RMT guy his customers are already outside of the token system.

  19. #139
    I had no idea what the hell Gallywix was, other than constantly seeing advertisements to join them in trade chat. If I never have to see that again, that'd be nice.

  20. #140
    can blizzard do something about the WTS advertisement in LFG,its getting really annoying too

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