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    Thumbs up Protests Erupt in Belarus Following Election

    People are protesting against Lukashenko. Feels like foreshadowing in the year 2020.

    Belarus election: Clashes after poll predicts Lukashenko re-election.
    Police used stun grenades, rubber bullets and water cannon. A human rights group said one protester was killed and about 120 arrested.
    • Mr Lukashenko won 80% of the vote, according to a preliminary count.
    • But the main opposition leader has refused to recognise the results.
    • "We have already won, because we have overcome our fear, our apathy and our indifference," Svetlana Tikhanovskaya said.
    • The preliminary results give her 9.9% of the vote, but her campaign said she had been polling 70-80% in some areas.
    • Ms Tikhanovskaya entered the election in place of her jailed husband and went on to lead large opposition rallies.
    • Mr Lukashenko, 65, has been in power since 1994.

    Lukashenko, right-wing tinpot who rules a country that the west has no particular interest in, in a state with no real ideology besides being a vestigial attachment to a more powerful Russian right winger.

    Lukashenko says Svetlana Tikhanovskaya and Belarus’ opposition “aren’t even worth repressing.”

    You wouldn’t know it from all the military vehicles in Minsk, detentions if activists and journalists, and threats that forced his opponents to flee the country. If the other Color Revolutions are any guide. Expect the usual suspects to start blaming NATO.

    Grim first-hand account of the police violence in Belarus last night by one of the few reporters let into the country to cover its disputed election.

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    Several western countries are headed into the same direction. It's as if 1930's and 1940's wasn't a good enough show of why not.
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    Woah damn, that guy knows how to make an insult...

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    Certainly an extremely concerning series of events, but this is one of those situations where any sort of foreign interference is likely to make it worse. My main concern is Russia using the chaos to bring Belarus even more into their fold by deploying Russian military to "Oversee" the instability. At the invitation of the Belarusian government, of course.

    Of course the Russian military is stretched extremely thin right now, it is likely to just be a token deployment, but still extremely concerning.

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    Don't see the necessary momentum. This is one of those countries that totally could use a good revolution, it's like a tiny USSR. Blast from the past.

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    By all likelihood nothing is going to change from these protests.

    Belarus needs a couple hundred thousand on the streets at minimum for a revolution to have a shot, and that's not what appears to be happening. Any smaller scale protest will just get squashed by the regime as per usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidax View Post
    Don't see the necessary momentum. This is one of those countries that totally could use a good revolution, it's like a tiny USSR. Blast from the past.
    Agreed, and anyone that isn't Belarusian needs to stay the hell out of it. Particularly the US and Russia. Eastern Europe has been screwed over long enough by those two playing tug of war.

    Poland seems very concerned, but best I can tell they are only a decade or so behind being in the same position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidax View Post
    Don't see the necessary momentum. This is one of those countries that totally could use a good revolution, it's like a tiny USSR. Blast from the past.
    It's pretty much the European version of the central asian post Soviet republics. Having someone decently high up in the old party, close to Russia gaining power in the years post break up of the Union and holding on tight.

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    The fetishization of revolutions is kinda gross in this thread. Yeah yeah things need to change but I can think of few examples where a revolution has actually been good for a country and not resulted in even more chaos

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    how can you a leader sell out its independence to another country?
    Why would you choose living under Russia?
    How can those politicians be this corrupt? do they have no dignity? honor?
    You have all the power and money to live however you want already. What else do they want?
    This is not only for Belarus but for Turkey, Russia, China, North Korea whatever you choose.

    In one hand you exercise your power for the wealth of your nation, then on the other hand you use it for nepotism, cronyism and kleptocracy. why?
    I could never understand.

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    OP, lukashenko is left-wing dictator, ur favorite politics?...

    And intelligence, the KGB, that's not a typo, are still called that.

    Lukashenko is a clown, when he recently got corona he started conspiracy theories it was planted n wanting to appear in control while for months having scoffed at the virus started seeing Russian mercenaries everywhere n started mass arrests..

    He has also been blocking union of Russia n Belarus as that would give him little power n hurt his fragile ego...

    Fuck that guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azadina View Post
    Several western countries are headed into the same direction. It's as if 1930's and 1940's wasn't a good enough show of why not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    The fetishization of revolutions is kinda gross in this thread. Yeah yeah things need to change but I can think of few examples where a revolution has actually been good for a country and not resulted in even more chaos
    Russian revolution, the cuban revolution, The Haitian Revolution, the American revolution, the Dutch Revolution.

    I can think of many more, not just a 'few'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBrown1917 View Post
    Russian revolution, the cuban revolution, The Haitian Revolution, the American revolution, the Dutch Revolution.

    I can think of many more, not just a 'few'.
    Was Russian revolution good for the country? At the very least, without it... you wouldn’t need to shrug of Russian communism, as tankies...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Was Russian revolution good for the country? At the very least, without it... you wouldn’t need to shrug of Russian communism, as tankies...
    Nah, i was just joking. I'm sure the Tsar was a great man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Was Russian revolution good for the country? At the very least, without it... you wouldn’t need to shrug of Russian communism, as tankies...
    When you have to chose between the Black Plague and the Cholera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBrown1917 View Post
    Nah, i was just joking. I'm sure the Tsar was a great man!
    Look at even at Lenin’s promise... Peace, Land and bread... we got WW2 with massive Russian casualties, you couldn’t move into cities with communists dictating your land, with even Holomodor having rampant famine millions of casualties.

    The fact that Tsar was shit, doesn’t mean that shit by any other name wouldn’t smell as sweet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Specialka View Post
    When you have to chose between the Black Plague and the Cholera.
    I can go with that... lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by selwihist View Post
    -snip-
    ... and millions starving in the streets.

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    Worse? I don’t see it as that different for people of Russia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by selwihist View Post
    -snip-
    Was this because of the Russian revolution or lack there of? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Was Russian revolution good for the country? At the very least, without it... you wouldn’t need to shrug of Russian communism, as tankies...
    The monarchy getting deposed? Yes.

    It's arguable whether it would have been better if the whites had won the civil war afterwards, but the monarchy getting deposed wasn't bad.

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    Woah damn, that guy knows how to make an insult...
    Falls flat when you know he has fully mobilized the armed forces to repress them violently.

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