If there gonna scale hunters to do 100% damage without the make I don’t see a problem with it as it’s just a bonus that you can swap every 20 sec or on death.
If there gonna scale hunters to do 100% damage without the make I don’t see a problem with it as it’s just a bonus that you can swap every 20 sec or on death.
Just take it off GCD.
Scheduled weekly maintenance caught me by surprise.
why is "just remove it" not a selection
Also the take it off gcd is just stupid, if its off gcd it will be macro'd to every ability and at that point ya may as well just remove it
Last edited by Aigilas; 2020-09-03 at 05:19 AM.
They actually went and made it worse, unbelieveable
Just get rid of it. It is a mere annoying busy work on the gcd for target switching and if you take it off the gcd/no cd you're just macro'ing it to your ST abilities. At the very least remove the damage component and have it provide tracking/negate stealth so it isn't a pita but has a practical use.
Turning it into a passive (whatever you're currently attacking is marked) seems ideal. Not sure why that common suggestion isn't on the poll?
That (obviously) is not how it works. They aren't going to tune hunters to do 5% more damage than everybody else with HM.
The balance goal is for everybody to do the same damage. Of course they never actually achieve that, but that's the goal. Hunter single-target damage will be tuned assuming the HM debuff is active.
Last edited by Schizoide; 2020-09-03 at 04:07 PM.
I was more referring to live BFA. Currently some classes are doing 20-30% more dps than others. Of course we have corruption right now but with all the covenant systems we will like see something similar in SL. Blizzard are not going to be able to balance the game very well with all these layers they are adding. My point is, there are a lot of people mad because they will only do 95% dps to targets without HM but we don’t know how much dps those 95% is. With Blizzard shitty balance, 95% hunter damage might be more than 100% damage of other classes. Especially in AOE situations because they don’t have to balance beast cleave etc based on HM.
5% ST damage is still not insignificant though. Sure, it probably won't mean much in the grand scheme if we assume bad balancing will be a thing, but it would still be more reassuring if Blizzard removed the damage component from HM and balanced around it. If AoE damage is the concern then they could just nerf Multi-shot.
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Fun is subjective. As a vanilla huntard (not playing classic) for me it's a class defining core ability. I had great pride marking mobs for my raid team and the "it costs a global CD" argument sounds dumb to me. During a boss fight other classes also have raid benefiting offensive/defensive abilities they have to waste GC on. Welcome to the club.
Also we used to macro it with the pet attack button, pets needed a few sec headstart to hold agro anyway, or made them switch/focus target faster in raids. I know it's not a thing anymore, but im sure hunters will figure out something
The problem is that Hunter's mark is firstly one you have to reapply in the case of important adds, and second and most important, only important to yourself.
In the case of the current raid buffs you either automatically reapplly it, or you only use it again during a fight if someone dies and is ressurected.
If Hunter's Mark was a raid buff that gave increased damage for the rest of the group then sure, but as it is it doesnt.
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Don’t see why they wouldn’t it’s not like there isn’t a 5% or more gap between some specs most of the time and it’s not like hunters have the best aoe or on demand damage like some other classes.
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Ah Ya then we don’t really know how things will play out with all theses systems after tuning is done.
Oh come on, it isnt that difficult to apply HM... even on a short CD, their damage is always balanced around the tools they have und where they want it to be.
They look at raid data and if Hunters need a 2% buff, they'll give it. It's not like hunters are weak or not used/played. Every spec has some inconviences. Many would ask that hunters get more casts and cant cast while moving. In fact BM is currently too strong considering how easy it is (noone can deny this).
Applying HM is part of your toolkit. You won't cast HM on every target (it's anyways impossible) and you wont be casting it on adds that die in 4 sec. It doesnt mean that you cannot do good focus damage.
Just think of other specs that gotta debuff every target before dealing damage. E.g. an elemental shaman has to apply flame shock first on every focus target because having no flame shock is much much more dps loss than 5%. A hunter will just not apply HM and deal 4.7% less damage.