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The GPU dies are much less protected, they need much more care with thermal paste and heatsink preasure is even more important.
I highly doubt that FE or current FE cooling replacements will be easy or even possible without damaging the GPU.
AIB GPUs that are made for easier replacements are another thing, but with the late start of the GPU production (coolers are only manufactured since august), I doubt that there are enough high binned chips for AIBs and you either getting a FE with fixed cooling or a lower graded bin with AIB.
Third party coolers might just offset the bin quality so early in the production, because NVIDIA will keep the highest grade for FE just as the last 2 generations.
The bad cooling design (gamer style) was the FE cards biggest issue, since you got good bins but the cooling was the worst possible you could get. This might change with the 3000 series and AIB cards will have a much harder time to justifiy the higher prices.
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Also worth noting, the latest leaks showed a 16gb "3070ti" and a 20gb "3080ti" which make again sense both to cover the middle price ranges (especially between 3080 and 3090) and this corroborates with the "dual sided memory chips" that the 3090 is equipping.
I don't think 20gb will be necessary for gaming, especially since now i am also on 1080ti and i'll stay on 1440p with no interest for 4k. 3080 will be more than fine and a good buy for my system. I'll wait to see how stocks will be and which card is actually the better performing. I like the Strix design.
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My system is https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/Z170-A/ and https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us...-4-20-ghz.html ( no OC) and i just hope i dont end up bottlenecking the new GPUs scare me (right now i have https://www.asus.com/Graphics-Cards/TURBO-GTX1060-6G/ and i wouldnt mind a nice upgarde)
No?
I'm nowhere near needing 4k or 8k.
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Upgrading makes sense, though as you said, it's simply not worth going for even a 3070 - maybe 3060 is the best bet if you want more performrace and i doubt that will bottleneck that system. It's always the same reasoning - do not mismatch components. It's not that they won't work, but it's not efficient/smart to couple parts from different tiers.
This time, if benchmarks show the things nvidia said, it'll be a "generational" change. Happens from time to time, sometimes you make a machine that lasts 8+ years with small upgrades because tech doesn't jump that far, then suddendly something changes the standards.
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If you can answer me this, why is your VERY specific comment gone right to the CEOs of these companies?
Why is it not within their company among their workforce? Why is your statement using a silly point to something that happens in the industry for both sectors actually.
Are you actually convinced information is not leaked between companies? are you actually convinced by this?
The last Radeon GPU I bought was 16 years ago (before AMD owned Radeon)... I guess that means I'm an AMD fangirl.
Is that your only takeaway from that post?
Starting to get a bit edgy in here.
Pretty sure the minds at Nvidia are able to extrapolate from the info we have from both consoles and RDNA 2, mixed up with a few sources and rumors, and draw up some rough estimates of where AMD will land in terms of performance on their cards. Stuff like this happens all over the place, especially in a competitive setting.
Nvidia got both Sony and Microsoft as potential sources as well, so shouldnt be too hard for em to get some numbers.
I'm 100% convinced that it's happening, but it's not worth for a company that has a huge lead in the space to bother and pay someone to leak information about the competition to set the prices on launch before the competition even launched and has an opportunity to adjust their pricing. This has nothing in common with F1, aswell. This would be similar to Mercedes paying Willams to reveal their performance figures.
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That's based on the example the guy brought up: F1. Where one team has recently bought the design for their competitor's last year's car. I'm also pretty sure that Nvidia has no reason to pay someone to get information like this, at least not someone in AMD.
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Yeah exactly, Nvidia has no reason to pay people at AMD for information, because the information is already out there in form of leaks. We've had Big Navi rumors since before the console info hit, so theres no need for Nvidia to use some shady tactic to get the info they need.
They probably had a good idea on where RDNA 2 would land performance wise, so they went aggressive on pricing in order to beat em to the punch, and steal the spotlight from the consoles at the same time.
And based on Nvidias price/performance numbers and die selections for the cards, they seem to expect competition in the 3070-3080 market, but not for the 3090.
Latest RDNA 2 rumors have a 600$ card placed somewhere between 3070 and 3080, but nothing for 3090. Also some talk about AMD having the capabilities to match a 3090, but we might not see something like that just yet. Will be interesting to see if all these rumors have some truth to em.
I am going to wait while AMD unveils their next gen video cards. I'm one of those people who wants the best bang for their buck, and right now Nvidia looks pretty good with that RTX 3070 being a huge upgrade over my current ROG GTX 1070. But even as is, the GTX 1070 is performing really well with newer games and I'll be interested to see what games like Cyberpunk 2077 do to my performance.