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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by DemonHunter18 View Post
    Arthas: Rise of the Lick King specifically says that Anasterian is 3000 years old.

    there was no reigning.
    Would you mind posting the paragraph or the page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonrage View Post
    Lorash only claims to be born during the exile of the Highborne.
    What kind of argument is that? That is like saying tyrande claims to be a priestess of elune.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Combatbulter View Post
    Would you mind posting the paragraph or the page.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerovar View Post
    They had no prior build-up and instead tried to leech off of already established things people are familiar with. The Scourge? Maldraxxus did that. The Lich King? The Jailer did that. Frostmourne? The Runecarver made that. Sargeras corruption by demons and everything resulting from that? Also the Jailer's plan.

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by DemonHunter18 View Post

    this would make Sylvanas a few thousand years old.

    it also confirms that Alleria fought in the Troll Wars.

    that or writers made a mistake as usual.
    There are several long lived blood/high elves in the lore, reaching several thousand years of life, Alleria is at least 3.800 years old now, she fought during the troll wars, her grandfather was still alive after the sacking of Quel'thalas, among the sunreavers are those who taught the original 100 human magic, Lorash was born before the founding of Quel'thalas and his mother died to the scourge invasion.

    The warcraft encyclopedia outright stated night elves and High/blood elves have pretty much the same lifespan nowadays, being thousands of years.

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Foolicious View Post
    This doesn't mean that sylvanas wasn't alive for thousands of years already at that point.
    But this doesn't really help either anyway. Some stories mention sylvanas mother dying during the second war, some say sylvanas was already ranger-general before the second war began.
    So not only does this mean we don't know how old she could be, we don't even know how long she was ranger general of silvermoon or when her mother died.
    they suffer from the same fate as Malfurion, Illidan and Tyrande.

    before WotA trilogy was made

    Illidan and Malfurion - +15,000
    Tyrande - +13,000

    WotA trilogy

    Malfurion, Illidan and Tyrande - several decades during War of the Ancients

    Encyclopedia:

    Malfurion, Illidan and Tyrande - grew up together millennia before the Sundering

    Wolfheart:

    Malfurion (and Illidan and Tyrande since they are the same age) was one thousand years older than Jarod.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Combatbulter View Post
    There are several long lived blood/high elves in the lore, reaching several thousand years of life, Alleria is at least 3.800 years old now, she fought during the troll wars, her grandfather was still alive after the sacking of Quel'thalas, among the sunreavers are those who taught the original 100 human magic, Lorash was born before the founding of Quel'thalas and his mother died to the scourge invasion.

    The warcraft encyclopedia outright stated night elves and High/blood elves have pretty much the same lifespan nowadays, being thousands of years.
    oh Ik they live at least for several thousand years.

    some stuff are weird though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerovar View Post
    They had no prior build-up and instead tried to leech off of already established things people are familiar with. The Scourge? Maldraxxus did that. The Lich King? The Jailer did that. Frostmourne? The Runecarver made that. Sargeras corruption by demons and everything resulting from that? Also the Jailer's plan.

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by det View Post
    Yeah, kinda my feeling...though Galadriel and her husband in LotR kinda looked the same age (-ish). Maybe they grow quickly to adulthood (who wants to change diapers for 200 years?), then stay young and beautiful for 2500 years and age fast afterwards...no idea. Really not an area to start applying logic
    LotR is probably a small exception but writers usually like to depict young, beautiful female characters because women and their looks you know xd

    speaking of which, Naga apparently aren't all immortal but most immortal Naga are women.

    wouldn't be surprised if they are pulling this for some elves as well.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nerovar View Post
    They had no prior build-up and instead tried to leech off of already established things people are familiar with. The Scourge? Maldraxxus did that. The Lich King? The Jailer did that. Frostmourne? The Runecarver made that. Sargeras corruption by demons and everything resulting from that? Also the Jailer's plan.

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    Elf ages are weird and change to fit whoever is writing at the moment
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    And Azshara is even older, and a naga. But i still would.

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    I fail to see what your point is. The definition of millenia is 1000 years. So what Lor’themar said is true

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    Quote Originally Posted by Combatbulter View Post
    her grandfather was still alive after the sacking of Quel'thalas, among the sunreavers are those who taught the original 100 human magic
    this has to be that Sylvos Windrunner guy
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  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Combatbulter View Post
    What kind of argument is that? That is like saying tyrande claims to be a priestess of elune.
    No it isn't. Even the wiki states he only claims to be this old (https://wow.gamepedia.com/Lorash_Sunbeam). Meanwhile Tyrande was appointed by the former High Priestess herself, and there are plenty of examples that prove she's clearly favored by Elune.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DemonHunter18 View Post
    this would make Sylvanas a few thousand years old.
    A millenia is 1,000 years, I don't know where you're getting this "few" from... She could be like 1,200 years old and could have become ranger general when she was 150 or something.
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  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Moonrage View Post
    The writers have forgotten their own lore yet again. Anasterian Sunstrider was 3000 years old and described a highly aged man. But of course Sylvanas is over a 1000 years old and still looks like a hot babe.
    Danuser doesn't want to screw Anasterian.
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  13. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Schattenlied View Post
    A millenia is 1,000 years, I don't know where you're getting this "few" from... She could be like 1,200 years old and could have become ranger general when she was 150 or something.
    can't millennia be used as few thousands as well???

    besides, it comes from Alleria fighting during the Troll Wars.

    can't really see Sylvanas being born +1000 after that.

    seems... off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerovar View Post
    They had no prior build-up and instead tried to leech off of already established things people are familiar with. The Scourge? Maldraxxus did that. The Lich King? The Jailer did that. Frostmourne? The Runecarver made that. Sargeras corruption by demons and everything resulting from that? Also the Jailer's plan.

  14. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Moonrage View Post
    No it isn't. Even the wiki states he only claims to be this old (https://wow.gamepedia.com/Lorash_Sunbeam). Meanwhile Tyrande was appointed by the former High Priestess herself, and there are plenty of examples that prove she's clearly favored by Elune.
    Hmm gotta have to edit that out, the guy is older than quel'thalas, which becomes rather evident when he recounts what happened during his childhood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schattenlied View Post
    A millenia is 1,000 years, I don't know where you're getting this "few" from... She could be like 1,200 years old and could have become ranger general when she was 150 or something.
    A millennium is 1k years, millennia can be two and upwards.

    Quote Originally Posted by DemonHunter18 View Post
    can't millennia be used as few thousands as well???
    It can only be used in such a manner, it is the plural after all.
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  15. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Combatbulter View Post
    It can only be used in such a manner, it is the plural after all.
    yeah, thanks.

    English isn't my first language but I guess I'm doing fine xd
    Quote Originally Posted by Nerovar View Post
    They had no prior build-up and instead tried to leech off of already established things people are familiar with. The Scourge? Maldraxxus did that. The Lich King? The Jailer did that. Frostmourne? The Runecarver made that. Sargeras corruption by demons and everything resulting from that? Also the Jailer's plan.

  16. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Moonrage View Post
    No it isn't. Even the wiki states he only claims to be this old (https://wow.gamepedia.com/Lorash_Sunbeam). Meanwhile Tyrande was appointed by the former High Priestess herself, and there are plenty of examples that prove she's clearly favored by Elune.
    The wiki is made by its users. That edit was randomly made by one user two years ago with no proper explanation in the history nor the discussion tab and has no source for the claim that his age being "older than what a High Elf life span is supposed to be". It does link to life spans article, but that article doesn't say what they want it to say. Because for the High Elves it has a bunch of "unknowns" and then vague "over 3800 years" for maximum age. So it's not exactly the grand argument you thought it to be.


    Quote Originally Posted by Schattenlied View Post
    A millenia is 1,000 years, I don't know where you're getting this "few" from... She could be like 1,200 years old and could have become ranger general when she was 150 or something.
    Yeah, no. That's a millennium. Millennia is plural. So @DemonHunter18 got that from actually using the words properly. Because using centuries as a comparison, someone that's just 120 years old isn't "centuries old".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mehrunes View Post
    The wiki is made by its users. That edit was randomly made by one user two years ago with no proper explanation in the history not the discussion tab and has no sources. It does link to life spans article, but that article doesn't say what they want it to say, because for the High Elves it has a bunch of "unknowns" and then vague "over 3800 years" for maximum age. So it's not exactly the grand argument you thought it to be.
    Even the maximum age is nothing but pure guesswork, all we have is several thousand years which has quite the wiggle room.

  18. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Combatbulter View Post
    Even the maximum age is nothing but pure guesswork, all we have is several thousand years which has quite the wiggle room.
    how much would you give her and her sisters???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerovar View Post
    They had no prior build-up and instead tried to leech off of already established things people are familiar with. The Scourge? Maldraxxus did that. The Lich King? The Jailer did that. Frostmourne? The Runecarver made that. Sargeras corruption by demons and everything resulting from that? Also the Jailer's plan.

  19. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Combatbulter View Post
    Hmm gotta have to edit that out, the guy is older than quel'thalas, which becomes rather evident when he recounts what happened during his childhood.

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    A millennium is 1k years, millennia can be two and upwards.



    It can only be used in such a manner, it is the plural after all.
    That's only partially correct. Plural is also used for fractions. Anduin is 0.018 millenia old. However, given that Lor'themar isn't known for his precision of speech or technical mindset, the common usage of referring to multiples is more likely, making the time he's known her greater than 1500 years (given that people will commonly round to the nearest unit).

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    Quote Originally Posted by DemonHunter18 View Post
    how much would you give her and her sister???
    No idea, everything I'd say would be pure speculation. The oldest we have so far is Lorash's mother a pre exile Highborne, who died to the scourge. Making her 7.3k years +
    Last edited by Combatbutler; 2020-08-24 at 06:14 PM.

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