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  1. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by Exkrementor View Post
    Its just Shadowlands beta.
    With a global release in about 7 weeks.

  2. #122
    Quote Originally Posted by Huntsmang View Post
    That would be kind of disrespectful towards those who loved survival pre-melee and gave it a chance after.

    Going from 3 good specs to 2 good and 1 mistake.
    survival hunter is the bees knees, dont know what ur on about.

  3. #123
    Until they make it ranged again no changes will matter

  4. #124
    Quote Originally Posted by Huntsmang View Post
    Why won't survival hunter get any changes?

    It seems to late for any changes now and not a single change other than minor tuning. Doesn't seem justifiable other than the argument that no one will play it eitherway because we made it melee.

    Not a single talent changed from BFA, even tho there are too many unusable talents such as Flanking strike, chakrams etc..
    Honestly, I'd rather they just revert Survival back to pre-Legion. We don't need more melee specs tbh.

  5. #125
    For the same reason why Demonlogy doesn't get any changes.

    Everyone hates it, Blizzard knows and any change to something fundamentally broken and loathed is a waste of resources.

    So they can either make a completely new spec or don't do anything and you can guess what they'll do.

  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exkrementor View Post
    It isnt just SV Hunter that got no changes.
    The vast majority of specs got no changes or just 1-2 talents changed. Its just Shadowlands beta.
    I feel like this something where Blizz can't please everyone. There are people who complain when they change too many things from expansion to expansion and then there are people that complain when not enough changes.

    Personally I feel like Survival was in a good place mechanically, and it was already overhauled a bit (in BFA) from the first version we saw in Legion. I'm not sure if 3 back-to-back expansions of significant changes to Survival would have benefited players.
    My greatest fear is that one day, my MMO-Champion ignore list will run out of space.

  7. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by Exkrementor View Post
    It isnt just SV Hunter that got no changes.
    The vast majority of specs got no changes or just 1-2 talents changed. Its just Shadowlands beta.
    This is also true, when you look beyond SV hunters, there are many specs that also barely got touched. So I don't think it is "Someone at blizz has a vendetta against SV hunters", more likely either blizz is satisfied with a majority of specs or to lazy to make any significant changes.

  8. #128
    Quote Originally Posted by Bisque View Post
    This is also true, when you look beyond SV hunters, there are many specs that also barely got touched. So I don't think it is "Someone at blizz has a vendetta against SV hunters", more likely either blizz is satisfied with a majority of specs or to lazy to make any significant changes.
    Probably the last one. Look at elemental: They changed it a lot in beta and then changed it back to BFA ele a few weeks ago. Its obvious that blizzard is eager to meet the activision deadline and is not able to fix shadowlands.

  9. #129
    Quote Originally Posted by Bennett View Post
    Until they make it ranged again no changes will matter
    So true and very real.
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    I believe your hands should be cut off. As I feel your opinions prove your not fit to type.
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  10. #130
    Quote Originally Posted by Kurve1776 View Post
    so it's not a lack of hunters, its a lack of people wanting to play SV.
    People don't like survival. It'll have to be extremely OP to even be considered by people.
    Its just RL wants ranged and not melee, as it is for like 5 expansions. And with BM been braindead 3 button class with toptier damage and same utility - why bother to some more complex and sinful to raid leaders and you - forum hunters - be melee spec.

  11. #131
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    SV is just fine as it is.

  12. #132
    Quote Originally Posted by OkamiShiro View Post
    SV is just fine as it is.
    Why would you want it to stay dead? Make a 4th spec for sv ranged and maybe we can move forward with sv
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    I believe your hands should be cut off. As I feel your opinions prove your not fit to type.
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  13. #133
    Still no conduit updates? Did Blizz actually forget about the spec or am I just missing patch notes somewhere?

  14. #134
    Quote Originally Posted by idunnowatdo View Post
    Why would you want it to stay dead? Make a 4th spec for sv ranged and maybe we can move forward with sv
    Unless blizzard literally blows it into the stratosphere with buffs it will stay dead because there is no reason to bring a sv hunter over literally any other melee especially when you can switch to ranged and do the same or better dps with unlimited mobility from 40yards away.

  15. #135
    Quote Originally Posted by Eapoe View Post
    Still no conduit updates? Did Blizz actually forget about the spec or am I just missing patch notes somewhere?
    I thought they added in the SV conduits already, maybe I misheard.

  16. #136
    Quote Originally Posted by Bisque View Post
    I thought they added in the SV conduits already, maybe I misheard.
    Not sure. Going by Icy Veins last update on the 8th they haven’t been added. I’ll have to check later.

  17. #137
    Dozens of players will be inconvenienced if they forget to add them!

  18. #138
    Quote Originally Posted by Schizoide View Post
    Dozens of players will be inconvenienced if they forget to add them!
    Looks like they are in, the list just hasn’t been updated from the 8th to reflect it. Unless they are listed but just not in beta for testing.

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    Make survival a tank spec tbh
    Tired of ElvUI and its various clones?

    Try one of these:

    Altz UI
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    Because it's terrible and no one has the balls to tell the suit who jerked themselves raw at the thought of shitting on the only class that uses ranged weapons by making it another of the "holy shit just about everyone is a melee class" melee dps blob.
    O Flora, of the moon, of the dream. O Little ones, O fleeting will of the ancients. Let the hunter be safe. Let them find comfort. And let this dream, their captor, Foretell a pleasant awakening

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