1. #1

    Bestial Wrath does damage now

    This is just what this ability needed to make the GCD feel justified. I mean, if they aren't going to get rid of it this is the next best thing. Now just put damage on hunter's mark too.

    Bestial Wrath Sends you and your pet into a rage, instantly dealing [Attack power * 0.65 * 1 * (1 + Versatility) * 1] Physical damage to its target, and increasing all damage you both deal by 25% for 15 sec.
    Beast Mastery (Level 34)
    Bestial Wrath's remaining cooldown is reduced by 12 sec each time you use Barbed Shot

    https://www.wowhead.com/news=317904/...es-tank-tuning

  2. #2
    I'd rather they not make such a lame excuse for keeping the GCD. Just take it off. The ability has been off GCD since it was first added in 1.7, literally 15+ years ago.

  3. #3
    my rule of thumb is if an ability does damage, it should be on the gcd. if it doesn't have damage, it shouldn't be on the gcd. while this isn't my preferred change, at least there is justification for the gcd now.

    now if blizz would only fix hunters mark.

  4. #4
    What a cop-out by the devs.
    If I wanted to be melee, I would have rolled a Rogue.

  5. #5
    Meh, that's fairly lame. It's about half the damage of Kill Command, so it's nothing impressive. You still hit Bestial Wrath for the buff.

    It's not clear who does the damage. The pet or the Hunter? If it's the pet, will it fail if the pet is out of range? Will it have a built-in dash like Kill Command? Will it hit if the Hunter is not facing the enemy? (You can turn around and still hit Kill Command, for example).

    And will you be able to hit Bestial Wrath without a target, or will this force the ability to only function when you're targetting an enemy in range, which puts you in combat?

    Bestial Wrath can also be cast while feared or stunned. Will the damage portion proc correctly in that situation?
    Last edited by Khallid; 2020-09-14 at 09:36 PM.

  6. #6
    Great, now it will propably be better to not use BW prepull so it's another gcd during opener.
    Thx a lot, Blizzard.

  7. #7
    I'm basically fine with this change. It'll make using BW feel a bit better for me. But yeah, you do lose using it pre-pull.

  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Schizoide View Post
    I'm basically fine with this change. It'll make using BW feel a bit better for me. But yeah, you do lose using it pre-pull.
    The damage is so low that using it prepull is still fine and probably preferable.

    I levelled 50-60 on the beta after this change and I can assure you Bestial Wrath doing damage is hardly noticeable. This really is the laziest way they could have gone about this.

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by FpicEail View Post
    The damage is so low that using it prepull is still fine and probably preferable.

    I levelled 50-60 on the beta after this change and I can assure you Bestial Wrath doing damage is hardly noticeable. This really is the laziest way they could have gone about this.
    Can you even use it prepull, or will using it make your pet attack the target?

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by ydraw View Post
    Can you even use it prepull, or will using it make your pet attack the target?
    If your pet doesn't already have a target nothing different happens; BW just goes off as it does on live and your pet doesn't attack anything.

  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by FpicEail View Post
    I'd rather they not make such a lame excuse for keeping the GCD. Just take it off. The ability has been off GCD since it was first added in 1.7, literally 15+ years ago.
    Blizzard just wont admit entirely that the GCD changes after Legion were extremely bad. And they also wont admit the real reason for these changes which was to slow down gameplay so it would be easier for new players. All their bullshit excuses of making more interesting choices in PvP ect. is just that... bullshit.

  12. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaver View Post
    Blizzard just wont admit entirely that the GCD changes after Legion were extremely bad. And they also wont admit the real reason for these changes which was to slow down gameplay so it would be easier for new players. All their bullshit excuses of making more interesting choices in PvP ect. is just that... bullshit.
    the real reason was that they didn't want a game where you had to learn macros to play effectively. But that's the way the game has always been and it was totally fine before they fucked it.

  13. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by ydraw View Post
    the real reason was that they didn't want a game where you had to learn macros to play effectively. But that's the way the game has always been and it was totally fine before they fucked it.
    But they are fine with having a game where you need complicated weakauras etc. to play effectively.

  14. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by FpicEail View Post
    If your pet doesn't already have a target nothing different happens; BW just goes off as it does on live and your pet doesn't attack anything.
    So there are no downsides at all. Noice.

    There were ways to stop abilities from being macroed together without giving them a full 1.5s GCD. They could have given them a 0.1s GCD, for example. That would break the macros and force players to deliberately hit the button without slowing down gameplay.
    Last edited by Schizoide; 2020-09-16 at 01:04 PM.

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