And where did I or anyone replying to this post say it had to be done for SL. You just assumed we are saying it has to be done for the next patch. Considering I am proposing a whole new role for SV I would never expect Blizzard to get it done within one patch as you have a whole new set of tanking mechanics to work out.
Personally I would be happy to hear from Blizzard and them say we have heard the complaints and have seen the drop in hunter class participation, particularly SV hunters and are working to make changes for the next expansion. Where we will not take away peoples playstyle but will restore a playstyle that a number of hunters loved to play.
Then you should back my idea as it doesnt take away from hunters that want to play melee. You however have yet to propose anything that brings back the playstyle that ranged SV hunters loved. The other two spec didnt offer that playstyle when I was playing and from what I have seen on these and the WoW forums Blizzard has yet to bring back that playstyle since I left.
I highly enjoy melee survival, but I also understand people wanting the old version back.
Appreciate your time with friends and family while they're here. Don't wait until they're gone to tell them what they mean to you.
Just turn SV into a tank spec and add old SV back as spec#4.
Lovers of the new SV rarely hold back with their opinion of I like the new SV, I don't care about ranged SV, fuck you - so naturally my opinion is pretty much... fuck them, take their spec away from them and turn it into something they didn't ask for because a bunch of randoms came up with a random brain fart.
Fuck, even better, turn SV into a healing spec to really drive my point home. There were like 5 people asking for SV being a more melee oriented spec and Blizzard screwed over everyone who liked ranged SV - now we just need 5 people to tell Blizzard that we want a melee healer spec that heals via pet positioning or some shit and then give a big fuck you to everyone who enjoyed melee SV.
If you like melee SV and your argument is basically fuck you for liking ranged SV, your opinion is invalid then I really hope that you'll have your favorite spec/class destroyed eventually as well. I really hope that you lose something you truly like and I can't wait to see how mature and super duper adult you'Re gonna react when you have people walk up to you telling you that you should just stfu and stop being a salty bitch.
It's your opinion it's bad, don't try to pass it off as fact. Even if you're part of the majority, there's a big enough following that enjoys the spec, and that's all that matters to to me and anyone that enjoys it. If you want a ranged Hunter spec, BM and MM are there for you.
There's no debate worth having as it's a matter of taste. Just because a majority like it doesn't automatically mean the minority are wrong. You can voice your displeasure with the change like the pro High Elf community all you want if you think it'll change things, but don't pretend you can convince me or anyone that enjoys the spec to think it's bad just because the majority think so. We're arguing taste and opinion.
I dont think hunter needs a 4th spec. I have always said they don't need a new spec, just an alternative MM play style. Just change the talent options to make it similar to how it used to be. such as changing explosive shot to what it was in wrath and put aimed shot on the same line. The reason I dislike MM is because to me it feels like a caster and if I wanted to play a caster I would. I played a SV hunter because of its mobility and lack of reliance on the pet. I dislike BM (and have since launch) because it feels like the pet is doing all the damage not me. Also, let me just say, i dont hate the melee survival spec, it was fun to play... but i dont like playing melee characters either. im basically a tank or the ranged bow user in every MMO I play.
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Why do people always ignore the part of it that matters the most in these discussions? Yes, we are asking for RSV(ranged SV) back. But it's not just for the "ranged" part. It's because we want the actual playstyle/theme/fantasy pertaining to the spec with that same name. And the thing is, neither BM nor MM come even close to how RSV worked/felt to play.
And btw, NO, I don't want current SV to be reverted. As evident by my signature below.
Those who do like MM wouldn't want it altered just to fit in another playstyle now, would they?
Besides, simply adding in a few talents won't do much in terms of providing what was the old RSV. It will be a bare-bones, bland version of what we used to have. Not to mention how in the current game, we're supposed to have options to delve deeper into the fantasy/theme.
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Just rename current survival to Mercenary or Bounty Hunter and bring back old dot based Survival
Have the cake and eat it too.
Blizzard can't balance 3 specs, and you want them to add a 4th? lol
If you look at BfA, it's not that they can't balance 3 specs. It's more that they have barely even made any attempts at doing so.
"Can't" indicates how they repeatedly try and make adjustments towards better balance(between specs and/or individual talents), and still it just falls flat. But they haven't really done much of that as of late.
It has varied a lot.
Heck, the worst balance we've ever seen in this game was Vanilla, before we even had specs.
I picked BfA as it's the most recent one, just an example.
Yes, you are right when saying that if they add a lot more specs to the game, it will require more to achieve some sense of balance.
But my argument was that "it's not about them not being able to balance specs, it's about how they haven't always put in enough effort to achieve said balance".
4th spec should be resto hunter. Fire bandages, coagulants, and healing potions into friendly targets. In the disc priest model, use damaging attacks to heal similar to smite. Sounds fun, pet would of course be a Saint Bernard.
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