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  1. #381
    Quote Originally Posted by Sevarin View Post
    i mostly just hate the 1 piece of loot per run. that means ill have to do at least 75 runs to get 1 piece of gear.

    edit: some quick math to prove my point. 75/5+RNG=1
    It's only one piece if you're not timing your runs.

    It's 1 piece for timing + 1 piece for finishing + extra % chance for each key over 15

    It's one less piece than now. Not to mention, because of the way the great vault works, pure M+ players will be geared statistically faster in SL than BfA, by up to 2x

  2. #382
    This has been known for a while and we've already had several threads about it, which aren't difficult to find.

    Looks like a lame attempt to plug your own youtube channel with a throwaway account...

  3. #383
    Oh, another topic about this.

    It was worth it, just for the tears

  4. #384
    Quote Originally Posted by kranur View Post
    You still need like 14 weeks worth of chests assuming you never get items for a slot you already have, which you will ... so with 1 choice a week, it's very likely you wont fill all the slots during a patch
    Thats sounds expactly like me when only mythic raiding for an entire patch. I would be super happy if I could get 1 upgrade a week from mythic raiding.

  5. #385
    210 BiS stats > 213 Stats a raid gives you.


    It'll still be thing, just not as much for them higher end people. All this will breed, is more mediocre players que'ing instead.

  6. #386
    Quote Originally Posted by Tesshin83 View Post
    Thats sounds expactly like me when only mythic raiding for an entire patch. I would be super happy if I could get 1 upgrade a week from mythic raiding.
    And 99% of mythic raiders will agree with that, it's only the lfr scrub crowd that think they're entitled to more for doing less.

  7. #387
    I swear players are getting more and more entilted every single expansion. Looks like there are players well if we can even call them players what would love to have just bis gear sand them by email so they dont have to play game at all.

  8. #388
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    Video uploaded 2 days ago, MMO champ account created today,

    This post is nothing more than a shameful plug.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sevarin View Post
    i mostly just hate the 1 piece of loot per run. that means ill have to do at least 75 runs to get 1 piece of gear.

    edit: some quick math to prove my point. 75/5+RNG=1
    Holy bullshit math, Batman.

    1.) People can still trade gear
    2.) The design intention of M+ is shifting from gearing to giving you options in your Weekly box
    "Brevity is the sole of wit." -Abraham Lincoln, 1892

  10. #390
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrel8490 View Post
    How is this ruining M+ runs?

    Yes 3 ilvl means more in SL than in BFA but it's a really small difference non the less so that's not really something to worry about. You will still prefer items with better secondary stats.

    You still get your mythic ilvl item at the end of the week.

    And please remember you cannot farm raids like you can M+.
    Not to mention they're just now starting to put finishing touches on gear. Who's to say that M+ gear isn't going to get some sort of bonus when running M+, like how they just this week made it so vers is more powerful in PvP content.
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    Trust me.

    Zyky is better than you.

  11. #391
    Why does this thread sound like another entitled M+ runner trying to reignite the debate?

    I raid and clear in a week, and if the RNG gods like me I might see 1 or 2 drops based on my history of shitty luck. But they expect to be able to run continuously and get to mythic level in gear in a night?

    I welcome this change as it’s gonna free up a lot of my time outside of raid nights.

    I hope blizz put in some scaling on M+ gear that it scales up based on the M+ level the item was gained at, when doing M+ content, but when in other content, like world or raid, it all normalises out to be the same as everyone else. They get their perk in their chosen content, but don’t end up with stupid levels of power
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    So the end of dungeon rewards are nerfed, true, but the weekly cache rewards for clearing said content are still on par with Mythic raiding unless I am remembering it different, and those are guaranteed loot drops backloaded to the weekly cache. So overall you should still get access to the same ilvl gear as the mythic raiders just theoretically at a slower pace.

  13. #393
    Quote Originally Posted by arr0gance View Post
    Holy bullshit math, Batman.

    1.) People can still trade gear
    2.) The design intention of M+ is shifting from gearing to giving you options in your Weekly box
    holy bullshit taking that math seriously, batman. good lord, some people.

  14. #394
    Nothing of value was lost

  15. #395
    Quote Originally Posted by Siraeyou View Post
    So the end of dungeon rewards are nerfed, true, but the weekly cache rewards for clearing said content are still on par with Mythic raiding unless I am remembering it different, and those are guaranteed loot drops backloaded to the weekly cache. So overall you should still get access to the same ilvl gear as the mythic raiders just theoretically at a slower pace.
    Its actually faster, because instead of it being 1 random piece now its 1 random piece out of a pool of up to 9 choices that also won't have duplicates.

    Even if you're only getting the 3 choices cause you're a M+ purist you'll still be able to gear out quicker because you'll get options and you can choose to fill this slot instead of getting your 5th cloak in a row.

    There's a large section of the player base that gears pretty much exclusively from the weekly chest because its so easy to cap out gear outside of it. These changes will mildly slow them down before the chest, but the chest will make them mythic geared faster. Which frankly is a problem.
    ..and so he left, with terrible power in shaking hands.

  16. #396
    Quote Originally Posted by kranur View Post
    You still need like 14 weeks worth of chests assuming you never get items for a slot you already have, which you will ... so with 1 choice a week, it's very likely you wont fill all the slots during a patch

    3.5 months to get a full set of mythic ilvl gear???

    And if watcher wasn’t talking out his ass that means you can also farm specific dungeons to get certain drops in the vault

    If you are upset over this then I guess I am just too dumb because it makes no sense to me

    Being able to gear up in a few months is great I’d think since ppl here bitch about “gears not exciting so I’ll hit BiS in a week and stop playing”

  17. #397
    Quote Originally Posted by Minulk View Post
    Dear wow M+ players,

    It seems that Blizzard is going to ruin our M+ runs. Please read the following:
    - Max iLvl you can get from M+15 is 210 - compared to 213/220 iLvl you can get from Heroic Raid and 226/233 from Mythic Raid.
    - The M+ final dungeon loot chest will consist in only 1 item drop.

    Take into consideration that 3 ilvl difference will be more significant than 3 ilvl difference in BFA.

    I think this is going to turnaround many players which simply do not have enough time to stick for long raids.

    All the credit for the details mentioned above go for Quazii (youtube - FORCED to Raid in Shadowlands?! ★ Mythic+ iLvL Gear NERFED).

    What do you think?
    Yes, it means there is no reason to run m+ anymore besides 1x week for the weekly chest if you raid heroic. Since you already get the selection upgrade from the raid chest the value of running more than 1m+ is virtually non-existant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sevarin View Post
    holy bullshit taking that math seriously, batman. good lord, some people.
    hehex xD

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  19. #399
    Quote Originally Posted by razorpax View Post
    3.5 months to get a full set of mythic ilvl gear???

    And if watcher wasn’t talking out his ass that means you can also farm specific dungeons to get certain drops in the vault

    If you are upset over this then I guess I am just too dumb because it makes no sense to me

    Being able to gear up in a few months is great I’d think since ppl here bitch about “gears not exciting so I’ll hit BiS in a week and stop playing”
    Isn't that the same as now then?

    Mythic+ never gave mythic raid gear.

  20. #400
    Quote Originally Posted by Whiskeyjac View Post
    Isn't that the same as now then?

    Mythic+ never gave mythic raid gear.
    Nope it’s better

    You get choice
    You get mythic gear once a week
    You get fewer raiders spamming m+
    You get a targeted weekly chest...kinda

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