Is this like 8% more on what is a 1% damage increase? Cause that is patheticly irrelevant. A difference of 1% to 1.08% isn't gonna break meters.
Is it that or a flat 8% damage increase while others get 1%? Cause i don't see that happening from a food buff.
Would love to see more pandas around though. ^^
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Hope not. I'm a hardcore player and you cry babies are ruining the game. If blizzard listened to idiots whine about this stuff. Everyone would have 4 abilities and basically play the same.
There is a new food Smothered Shank that causes you to do an AOE fire breath periodically and is strong in AOE situations dealing up to 4% of a players damage, or up to 8% if they’re a panda
But it is also a flat 400 (800) damage so as a players gear scales the overall percentage of damage it does will be decreased significantly.
It would be pretty funny seeing all top raiding guilds consisting of mostly Pandaren. I say we let it slide and go live like this.
On a serious note though, still can't believe they haven't reworked the racial system after so many years of balance issues (One faction having much better pve racials, old human any CC breaker, blood elf hair ).
The food buff they get is giving them 7 to 8% over any other racial right now and it gets even strong when you stack that with one of the conduits that increases gains from your food buff. Tuning with SL stuff right now is a shit show though so I doubt it is fixed until it is far too late and it fucks over people that have paid to switch or go routes they wouldn't have. I do like that because you haven't seen something you assume somebody must be mistaken and also then ask for them to do the footwork for you when you could just google it or jump on youtube or twitch and watch one of the dozen or so videos done on this.
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8% as in the top performing racial is less than a 2% increase to player damage, the panda buff is sitting around 9 or 10%. I am sure they will again nerf the food buff amount though since they don't seem to have any other idea on how to fix these things.
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They could just have mirrors of each for both faction and people could do whatever they wanted to. I am sure somebody would still get upset because they couldn't get a racial for a class on one faction that the other faction could.
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A 9% bump in damage is more than even the best trinkets or other items give and people go bat shit over those. With all the other huge gaps in tuning right now you could look at 2 people at the same skill level playing the same spec, but due to racials, soulbinds and covenant abilities have over a 30% swing in dmg/hps. That is a pretty big problem.
"Privilege is invisible to those who have it."
Horde has nothing what alliance doesn't have.
The difference in racials just isn't big enough to justify a faction change for whole guilds.
Back when the big exodus happend from alliance to horde the difference was quite noticable.
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Of course it will get fixed. They know about it allready as even youtubers talked about it. But this is probably something that will be tuned in the last patch before release
Um... if it increased everyone’s dps by 4% and pandas by 8% that’s a 4% buff... but then everyone else still has their racial so it actually comes out to 1-3%. For pandas to get an 8% dps boost over others it would have to increase everyone’s by 8% and pandas by 16% but then again everyone would still have their 1-3% dps racials so actually it would need to increase everyone’s dps by around 10% and pandas by 20%.
You are comparing panda food racial + food vs other race + no racial + no food
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Blizzard has zero interest in "fixing" racials. Look at Warlords of Draenor and PvP. Everyone went Human that could, because EMFH was overpowered beyond reason. Racials also make money with the top 1% of players because they'll dump $25/€25 into race changes to get past a fight or get a slight edge. Also, as far as Blizzard is concerned, it makes them "unique" so it should continue being a feature.
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This has happened multiple times. It happened in Legion with Goblins, it happened in WoD with PvP for humans, it happened long before that for Trolls. The top 1% will faction change for a tiny boost.
I really wouldnt say that about the playerbase. Back when I started playing (TBC) I started as alliance and then switched to horde because back then the alliance had the stigma of the younger, immature audience whereas the more mature audience was attracted to the "ugly and savage" looking races of the Horde.
After playing Horde for 7 years, I switched to Alliance since mid BfA and have been having a blast.
I think the scales have largely shifted. This is speaking of course on a VERY general basis but I ve encountered a lot more immature and edgy people on the horde side whereas alliance seems to be a lot more chill and laid back. The average player I encounter on the Alliance side is also at the very least mediocre at playing the game whereas players on the horde side fluctuate from absolute garbage to good players.
I get that this is because most of the playerbase switched to horde therefore it is more likely to meet all kinds of people. But alliance doesnt really come off as that whiny to be honest.
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I remember that too but the thing I m wondering is... why are they not doing this now? I saw a sim recently where literally all of the top siming racials were from Alliance races with lightforged draenei being up there and of course mecha gnomes etc.
And yet even when talking about shadowlands, other than the dwarf discussion for the bleeds I dont really see a lot of guilds saying they ll be swaping to alliance for the stronger dps racials. The differences are small but if you stack all of them together it can get quite substancial.
The big switch had nothing to do with only the top 1%. But of course someone had to show their hateboner again. My complete raiding evironment on my alliance server broke down. It was a big server and hasn't recovered to the old numbers since then. For raiders of course at they have been the only ones who cared about that. But it went way deeper than just the dreaded evil 1%
I rather see pandas running around than Blood elves, so gogo panda racials, no nerf needed
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