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  1. #201
    Quote Originally Posted by Serpha View Post
    Entire paragraph can summarise your response but the bolded part is just pure gold and proves my point.
    Users don't have responsibility on it. There are multiple reasons why games don't run that well in Linux.

    Users not playing games that crash every minute, with low fps or that don't start at all isn't a valid reason.

    It's not as simple as Linux becoming better at running the games either. It's actually mostly the games not being optimized for it.

    A gamer doesn't want to protest by having a bad experience while playing a game after work. He wants to play the fucking game hassle free.

  2. #202
    Quote Originally Posted by kaelleria View Post
    Straight up cash. They had $136b cash on hand in June. They could do this a few more times if they so desired.
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  3. #203
    Quote Originally Posted by aceperson View Post
    i don't consider greed a good reason. exclusives are meant to drive competition to bankruptcy through a lack of support. not because their product is better. also, i'm going for a business management degree so that would explain why i phrased it so well. i know how these people think.
    I've always wondered why it's "greedy" for video game companies to have exclusives...but it's fine in every other market. People didn't call HBO "greedy" by keeping Game of Thrones as an "HBO exclusive".

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    Just when we thought Todd couldn't find any more ways to sell Skyrim...
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  5. #205
    Quote Originally Posted by tikcol View Post
    Users don't have responsibility on it. There are multiple reasons why games don't run that well in Linux.

    Users not playing games that crash every minute, with low fps or that don't start at all isn't a valid reason.

    It's not as simple as Linux becoming better at running the games either. It's actually mostly the games not being optimized for it.

    A gamer doesn't want to protest by having a bad experience while playing a game after work. He wants to play the fucking game hassle free.
    That is horseshit. You can handpick people who have problems with crashes and it's mostly AMD cards, low fps, maybe some obscure game that someone is trying to run in Wine. God forbid you run a game 19th 100 fps instead of 110. Playing hassle free? How do BSOD and Windows update self restarts and Windows deleting you files treating you? What's that? Hyperbole? Yah it goes both ways.
    Users don't have resposibility on what? Making an effort? No you don't have to, nobody is saying you have to.
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  6. #206
    Quote Originally Posted by Serpha View Post
    That is horseshit. You can handpick people who have problems with crashes and it's mostly AMD cards, low fps, maybe some obscure game that someone is trying to run in Wine. God forbid you run a game 19th 100 fps instead of 110. Playing hassle free? How do BSOD and Windows update self restarts and Windows deleting you files treating you? What's that? Hyperbole? Yah it goes both ways.
    Users don't have resposibility on what? Making an effort? No you don't have to, nobody is saying you have to.
    Making an effort on what? Not playing a game with quality or even playing at all as a way of protest? Lmao.

  7. #207
    Quote Originally Posted by Egomaniac View Post
    I've always wondered why it's "greedy" for video game companies to have exclusives...but it's fine in every other market. People didn't call HBO "greedy" by keeping Game of Thrones as an "HBO exclusive".
    Watching HBO doesn't require you to buy a completely different several hundred dollars appliance and THEN buy [insert series name] for 60+ bucks on top of that.

  8. #208
    Quote Originally Posted by Egomaniac View Post
    I've always wondered why it's "greedy" for video game companies to have exclusives...but it's fine in every other market. People didn't call HBO "greedy" by keeping Game of Thrones as an "HBO exclusive".
    because the general populace doesn't think about anything that doesn't directly affect them. people originally saw things like netflix as the savior of tv because there were so few ads and a lot of shows available. now as time has gone on, the companies who produce these shows just start their own streaming service so they can make all the money instead of some and we end up with the situation we have now where people are paying more for the shows they used to watch on the tv because of how spread out all the series have become.

    especially with tv, exclusives are still relatively new to that area of business so i would expect of a hatred of exclusives to follow in the coming years. the reason i say exclusives are greedy is because exclusives don't serve the consumer base in any way. the only reason exclusives exist is for more consumers to be drawn to your platform instead of a competitors. this means the competitive market turns from quality and quantity to a war of attrition. whichever company can support the loses from undercutting a competitor will win. we are essentially watching two halves of the market try to out monopoly each other and the winner becomes the monopoly.
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  9. #209
    Quote Originally Posted by tikcol View Post
    Making an effort on what? Not playing a game with quality or even playing at all as a way of protest? Lmao.
    What are you even arguing about? If you don't want to use Linux, don't. It's clear you have never touched it but keep yaping about it.
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  10. #210
    https://www.cnet.com/news/how-micros...w-up-bethesda/

    "You can't wake up one day and say, 'Let me build a game studio,'" Nadella said in an interview after the company announced its $7.5 billion cash purchase of ZeniMax Media, which owns several industry-leading game developers, including Bethesda Softworks and Id Software. "The idea of having content is so we can reach larger communities."

    That's why Microsoft will consider buying even more video game companies in the future, he said, and why it continues to invest in its Xbox Game Pass subscription service.

  11. #211
    Quote Originally Posted by Serpha View Post
    What are you even arguing about? If you don't want to use Linux, don't. It's clear you have never touched it but keep yaping about it.
    Linux sucks for gaming and it's not the users fault. Did you forget what you were talking about or did you finally figure out how ridiculous your previous posts were?

  12. #212
    Quote Originally Posted by tikcol View Post
    Linux sucks for gaming and it's not the users fault. Did you forget what you were talking about or did you finally figure out how ridiculous your previous posts were?
    Correction Linux for User Friendly gaming sucks (but is getting much better).

    Linux for gaming itself doesn't suck. I can run almost any game on the market on linux, the ones that can be hard to do is online games. Online games very per game on if you can get them to run on linux or not.

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  13. #213
    Quote Originally Posted by tikcol View Post
    Linux sucks for gaming and it's not the users fault. Did you forget what you were talking about or did you finally figure out how ridiculous your previous posts were?
    Linux really isn't that bad for gaming anymore. Steam's "Proton" really has advanced Wine compatibility quite a lot. It's obviously not Windows good, but you can play the majority of things with little effort nowadays.

  14. #214
    Man, the Game Pass is going to have completely ridiculous value now. It's already a steal, but getting games from Id, Arkane, and BGS (assuming they in particular unfuck their shit) day 1 for barely more than 10 a month on top of all the rest? That's more or less unmatched bang for your buck.

    Also, I'm all for this if it means even a chance of Obsidian getting another crack at Fallout with Microsoft budget backing them. I strongly doubt things work that way, but a New Vegas fan can dream.
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  15. #215
    Quote Originally Posted by Nerraw View Post
    Watching HBO doesn't require you to buy a completely different several hundred dollars appliance and THEN buy [insert series name] for 60+ bucks on top of that.
    It's still "exclusive". If you want HBO and Netflix...you have to pay for them both separately. And exclusives have been very much a thing since the beginning of "the console wars". If you wanted to play a mario game...you needed a Nintendo. If you wanted to play Sonic games...you needed a Sega. Now if you want to play Gears of War you need an Xbox and if you want to play God of War you need a Playstation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aceperson View Post
    especially with tv, exclusives are still relatively new to that area of business so i would expect of a hatred of exclusives to follow in the coming years. the reason i say exclusives are greedy is because exclusives don't serve the consumer base in any way. the only reason exclusives exist is for more consumers to be drawn to your platform instead of a competitors. this means the competitive market turns from quality and quantity to a war of attrition. whichever company can support the loses from undercutting a competitor will win. we are essentially watching two halves of the market try to out monopoly each other and the winner becomes the monopoly.
    Exclusives are not new to TV. HBO, as an example, has been around for decades.

    And yes, exclusives do serve to draw the customer away from their competitors...which is the same thing every company does. Ford wants to draw you in away from Chevy. Samsung wants to draw you away from Apple. Every company is offering products and services that their competitors do not so that you will buy from them. So yes, console companies are "greedy" in the same way every company is greedy. Welcome to Capitalism.

  16. #216
    Quote Originally Posted by Egomaniac View Post
    Exclusives are not new to TV. HBO, as an example, has been around for decades.

    And yes, exclusives do serve to draw the customer away from their competitors...which is the same thing every company does. Ford wants to draw you in away from Chevy. Samsung wants to draw you away from Apple. Every company is offering products and services that their competitors do not so that you will buy from them. So yes, console companies are "greedy" in the same way every company is greedy. Welcome to Capitalism.
    but ford has to use quality and affordability to get customers to buy their product. samsung has to use quality and convenience to get you away from apple. ford and samsung don't have to use a platform that is ran by another company in order to sell their products. you are comparing apples and oranges. yes, hbo and other producers had exclusive deals with tv providers but that was the fault of the tv providers, not the producers. the producers got their money from the providers. back when tv was much more divided, it was the providers that were at fault of being greedy. i don't think it was right of hbo and other producers to enter those deals but it was possible that if they didn't take the deal, their services would be completely denied so they couldn't always be at fault for their decisions.

    microsoft is a 1.5 trillion dollar company that is buying game studios and franchises and making them exclusive to the xbox. that drives people to the xbox because of the brand loyalty, not the quality. sony won't be able to compete with microsoft in a drawn out war of attrition and will either stop producing games or go bankrupt if this kind of thing is allowed.

    this isn't about which company can provide quality, convenience, and affordability. it's about who can stand what is tantamount to a trade war the longest.

  17. #217
    Quote Originally Posted by aceperson View Post
    but ford has to use quality and affordability to get customers to buy their product. samsung has to use quality and convenience to get you away from apple.
    Sony has to have quality exclusives to pull you away from Microsoft and vice versa...otherwise the exclusiveness is meaningless. It doesn't matter how many games are exclusive to Microsoft if you aren't interested in playing them.

    No, Ford and Samsung don't have to use another platform to sell their products...but, like Microsoft and Sony, they do provide a platform that other companies have to use to sell their products.

  18. #218
    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    Can't wait to see Doom Multiplayer E Sports and all the MTX's that come with it.

    Just like they did with Gears.
    Elder Scrolls Online already has one of the scummiest lootbox systems with super super super rare shit you cant even buy with the lootbox currency, 150$ "microtransaction" homes, an optional sub, and pretty much every other possible microtransaction possible. Only thing they could add is season passes if they haven't done so already.

  19. #219
    Quote Originally Posted by qwerty123456 View Post
    Elder Scrolls Online already has one of the scummiest lootbox systems with super super super rare shit you cant even buy with the lootbox currency, 150$ "microtransaction" homes, an optional sub, and pretty much every other possible microtransaction possible. Only thing they could add is season passes if they haven't done so already.
    Well, it's a B2P MMO so it's a very different beast.

    Optional sub also gives $15 a month in cash shop currency, so if you're subbing you're able to buy the DLC's to own outright even after your sub ends plus have extra currency to spend on other stuff. Lockboxes aside (they always suck), it's a pretty legit model. Especially for a game that sees pretty sizable updates on a quarterly cadence.

  20. #220
    Quote Originally Posted by Egomaniac View Post
    Sony has to have quality exclusives to pull you away from Microsoft and vice versa
    one game franchise is all i need to prove you wrong. halo. halo had a great amount of respect and love from the gaming community. 343 has been making bad game after bad game when it comes to halo and yet people are still excited for halo 6. quality isn't needed when it comes to exclusives. it's the brand loyalty of that franchise. i can see the argument that halo was always owned by microsoft but that doesn't matter. microsoft can buy out game franchises with just as much fan loyalty. fallout 76 proves that point through and through. fallout 76 is an amazing piece of proof. people crapped on that game for over a year and yet people still played it because it was fallout. and even with all the negative press involved with fallout 76, people are still excited for new fallout games.

    quality doesn't matter when microsoft can just buy brand loyalty.

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