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  1. #401
    Quote Originally Posted by Lora View Post
    everyone is entitled to their wrong opinion.
    The response in this thread is there for all to see - and it's clearly almost entirely positive or indifferent. It's a few negative ppl arguing the same tired and factually incorrect "data" over and over again. If you are attempting to troll, it's not working. If you are genuine, you need to put your agenda aside, and read the responses in the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arkanon View Post
    The response in this thread is there for all to see - and it's clearly almost entirely positive or indifferent. It's a few negative ppl arguing the same tired and factually incorrect "data" over and over again. If you are attempting to troll, it's not working. If you are genuine, you need to put your agenda aside, and read the responses in the thread.
    just because people are vocal does not mean it is fact. its a fucking garbage change and you cant change my mind. i dont have an "agenda". i've read the responses. i dont have to agree with them nor care about them. same goes to people opposing my viewpoint.

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    Thanks but no thanks, Lora, for making me question everything in existence forever.

  3. #403
    Quote Originally Posted by Lora View Post
    its a fucking garbage change and you cant change my mind. i dont have an "agenda".
    Oh a self burn, those are rare!

  4. #404
    Quote Originally Posted by Jester Joe View Post
    I mean, they literally said they want to make loot more "prestigious" to get. And they're making multiple efforts to limit the sources of gear.

    There's no point in wondering what the drop rates will be, the answer definitely isn't going to be increased considering all of their actions.

    And why would you say this is great, and then literally point out the exact flaw that is only going to get worse now? Now you'll be spamming even MORE for a single piece of gear because you're not getting bonus roll chances each week either.



    The weekly chest. That always gave a piece of gear anyway if you did M+ in addition to bonus rolls. You're getting less items, I'm genuinely confused where you're getting "more" from.

    That isn't even touching upon that PvP and M+ had separate chests weekly, and now they're also both rolled into one.
    thats the point, they made this system like it is now on bfa, and now getting hard gear is a chore bc you get almost the same with just spamming some dungeons on +14. we have unguent caress with super low drop rate, and then everthing else is just too easy. how can a spammable dungeon can give more than Heroic-weekly-locked raid? also, you dont need to time the dungeon. and right now the vault in SL is super OP, so i think they made the best changes they could've ever done on this topic. ill drop 3ilvl to the weekly chest tho, but thats for other day. lol

  5. #405
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    Ah another excellent premonition quote from Aggrophobic
    Oh, great. I have an insane stalker. How flattering.

  6. #406
    Quote Originally Posted by Aggrophobic View Post
    Oh, great. I have an insane stalker. How flattering.
    Its your own quotes, in case you forgot

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    Quote Originally Posted by iperson View Post
    One user said there is no longer a reward from doing M+ and said that even though they enjoyed M+ they would no longer do it. If that's not inconsistent then I don't know what is. Clearly they only enjoyed M+ as an efficient way to gear up. It's funny how all these people who "love M+" now won't do it when it doesn't reward BIS. Good on the devs for seeing how bad M+ was contributing to ilvl bloat.
    Well M+ rewards are scaled down (at least for Season 1 SL) with the end of dungeon chest only offering a ilv 210 item (weekly chest is reaches cap of 226 at +14). And the only rewards from Mythic Raid that exceeds M+ is the loot from the final two bosses in Nathria which drops ilv 233 (7 ilv higher).


    Generally speaking, there should still be good competition from M+ loot even for Mythic level raiders.


    Now an additional change the Great Vault represents is that less players will be able to gear up beyond Normal Nathria as to be able to share/funnel loot to teammates. Because of the end of Chest rewarding a maximum of ilv 210, this is lower than Heroic Nathria loot of ilv 213.


    Also note that in previous tiers (prior to BFA season 4), you did have WF/TF that increased the "lotto" chance of getting something close to Mythic raid loot without being a mythic raider.
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