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  1. #201
    Quote Originally Posted by Kathranis View Post
    Sure, but he was also one of the architects of the merger. Maybe he was naive or maybe he's a secret shark. Either way, you can't pretend like the president of Blizzard wasn't partially responsible for how the company was being run, especially when he helped Bobby Kotick acquire it, basically enticing him with honeyed words about the inroads the game had made in China.
    by no means am i saying mike is a saint for us gamers. the guy has clearly made mistakes and possibly pushed bad business practices. I also don't think he is as heartless as many people are saying. he very clearly cares about quality above all else. as for why he stayed at blizzard for so long, it could be he was having an emotional crisis, he was stocking up on funds for this new company, or he hadn't yet given up on blizzard.

    all i'm saying is that if he truly means what he says, he certainly has the knowledge and skills to pull it off this time. time will tell whether he is sincere or lying. i just don't think it's fair that people are putting all the problems caused by activision on his shoulders.

  2. #202
    Dreamhaven will kill WoW. Just like Wildstar did.
    - Enough prattling. Let them come. We shall grind their bones to dust.

  3. #203
    Well, i guess we can check back in 7 years time to see if anything is happening with this.
    Bonfire Studios that has some old blizzard people like Rob Pardo has been up and running for years and we havent heard a thing.

  4. #204
    Quote Originally Posted by Jibjub View Post
    WoW is mostly a single-player game that hasn't innovated on the genre since Avril Lavigne was on the radio.
    Sounds "old-school" to me.

  5. #205
    Quote Originally Posted by Doffen View Post
    Dreamhaven will kill WoW. Just like Wildstar did.
    That's a joke. Right? Wildstar literally closed down because of 0 interest.

  6. #206
    Quote Originally Posted by Deventh View Post
    That's a joke. Right? Wildstar literally closed down because of 0 interest.
    Very much so. And Wildstar was made of who again? My joke runs deep
    - Enough prattling. Let them come. We shall grind their bones to dust.

  7. #207
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hctaz View Post
    I really don't think he "didn't care"

    The dude stepped down from being CEO reportedly because he was unhappy with the fact Activision was about to "maximize profits" by letting go hundreds of employees while making record profits that same year.
    Nan he didn't care he stuck with blizzard after they let go 600 employees in mop compared to the 200 or so as most were not blizzard related, he was never a take a stand for the employee type CEO.

  8. #208
    Quote Originally Posted by Hctaz View Post
    Weird... you mean right around the time a bunch of shit games got released and Chris Metzen left the company? Hmmm...
    And if there was something with that Metzen would have come out and said "Yeah those fucks at activision fucked over everything." yet like everyone else he's kept to the Blizzard is Blizzard, Activision is Activision.

  9. #209
    Quote Originally Posted by shise View Post
    You do not know that and, obviously, that is the opposite to the real case. They would not create two studios if they didn´t have ideas.
    Most likely he has something in mind which has been there for decades already and now found a good time to get on with it and see what happens.


    I wonder... could this be the "beginning" of something coming from the echo of the famous project Titan?

    - - - Updated - - -

    Lots of respect for him. I´d go as far as calling him a hero of the gaming industry, and no, I am no die hard fan or something.

    I really look forward to see if something comes out, which I expect to happen. But we probably won´t hear much more about it all for a good couple of long years, and then a good couple more.
    Probably the reason he waited this long is a non-compete clause that had to run it's course. He definitely could have spent this time getting a head start.

  10. #210
    I'm sure they'll be VERY successful, just like that other company filled with former Blizz guys, Bonfire Studios...

  11. #211
    Quote Originally Posted by Wyattbw09 View Post
    If Morhaime can talk Metzen into joining, it will be a damning condemnation of Activision and Blizzard's management.
    Should be "how Corporates kill creativity" as I dont think ATVI snr management (of which Mike was a key member) get to shoulder the blame.
    Idealistically being a Fanboy of Blizzard products you want to blame them but ultimately it's being a listed Corporate which kills it.

    I expect Mike would have lost a lot of Blizzards freedom when Titan failed.

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  13. #213
    Quote Originally Posted by Nnyco View Post
    Considering they dont even have a game planned yet i doubt well see anythin from em for a few years.
    dont worry - what they have planned is the campaign on every founding platform

    and naive people will drop them buckets of $$$$$ for nothing but marketing materials.

  14. #214
    i still hear that ppl saying „Activision has no influence“ echoing in my head. yeah, of course.

  15. #215
    As long as their ambitions are not to make the next big thing but instead focus on smaller games with a focused story and gameplay they might succeed, and if they stay true to their words I hope they will because game development has become such a hostile industry.

  16. #216
    Quote Originally Posted by Osmeric View Post
    You missed the part where he didn't own Blizzard at that time.
    I know but if someone buys it’s because someone sells.

    What did he think? That shareholders would have cared about quality over money? In which world?

    I don’t have anything particular against him, Blizzard is still my fav software house, but let’s not pretend he did not imagine how the story would have ended if they merged with Activision.

    I also bet that years “in prison” brought him quite a hella lot of money.

    It’s just fine he decided to step out and embark into a new journey but if Blizzard had to start feeling the revenue pressure it’s cause of him too.

  17. #217
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    Just a reminder that Rob Pardo quit a few years ago, started Bonfire Studios, and outside of the occasional announcement hasn't been much of a presence since. Bonfire has released no titles that I'm aware of nor have they even dropped a name for a project. A lot of the same things that are being said in this thread were said then. Whatever Morhaime is up to with Dreamhaven I wouldn't be expecting to see much any time soon. Likely for a few years if their first release is going to be something =big=.

    I do wish everyone at Dreamhaven (including Pardo and Bonfire) a ton of luck. We can always use more good games. On another cautionary note, Morhaime was CEO during the whole Titan debacle and that was at a time when developers were given a lot of free rein at Blizzard.

    I still believe that the entire Titan project and its cancellation was an extremely traumatic experience for everyone at the top at Blizzard and has affected those that remain and everyone who has left to a great extent. Overwatch was their first new IP in a while and that was launched four years ago. It's not a great record and Morhaime starting up a company that will give developers a friendly environment to indulge themselves may prove to be quite a risk. You may not see an actual game for sale before 2024 or 2025.
    Last edited by MoanaLisa; 2020-09-24 at 07:12 AM.
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  18. #218
    Quote Originally Posted by Lobosan View Post
    I'm sure they'll be VERY successful, just like that other company filled with former Blizz guys, Bonfire Studios...
    LOL totally forgot about them, wonder what they are doing now.

  19. #219
    Other companies didnt work, money and leadershipskills, but mike has funds, good devs and he has experience with leadership. I think we will see a game come out very fast.
    Last edited by Speedlance; 2020-09-24 at 07:46 AM.

  20. #220
    Quote Originally Posted by kodemonkee View Post
    LOL totally forgot about them, wonder what they are doing now.
    Literally nothing lol

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