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    Is it worth losing 50% crit damage from The Widsith for a fully refined Dodoco book on Yan Fei? Not sure how the numbers would add up, but the effect is great for Yan Fei as much as it would be for Klee (even would be good on Ningguang).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendulous View Post
    Is it worth losing 50% crit damage from The Widsith for a fully refined Dodoco book on Yan Fei? Not sure how the numbers would add up, but the effect is great for Yan Fei as much as it would be for Klee (even would be good on Ningguang).
    If you have good artifacts. If you change your weapon you may not have 1:2 crit to crit damage rate any more.
    I would also probaly change to 4 set wanderer to get as much damage from charge attack on yanfei for example.
    Don't sweat the details!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yunru View Post
    So i cleared new abyss. If you dont have 2 anemo characters lvled you are F*****.
    9/10/11 all 3 star-- but 12 is weird. 12-1 i managed to 3 star, but 12-2 and 12-3 just 1. (on 1.st try)

    I am not sure wich setup would work best for lectors....

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    75/90 yeh i will stop rolling now till inazuma. I would rather try my luck on normal banner to pull a character (i had 2 weapons before -- so maybe fischl?).
    Don’t really need anemo to clear or 9 star the floors. They make some rooms easier as they always did btw, but nothing mandatory.

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    Got around to doing F12 today and damn me, I haven't been swearing this much since the first Abyss that included heralds. Obviously 12-1/12-2 are easy, but 12-3 is the most cancerous floor I've seen in Abyss so far. 12-3B is not THAT bad, but 12-3A... whoever thought it's fine to stack mobs that can spam overload and electrocute you while being able to basically 3-shot anyone who's not Zhongli or Hu Tao should be fired after getting burned and electrocuted himself. Only got 1 star there in the end, took like 5 attempts in the first half.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airlick View Post
    Got around to doing F12 today and damn me, I haven't been swearing this much since the first Abyss that included heralds. Obviously 12-1/12-2 are easy, but 12-3 is the most cancerous floor I've seen in Abyss so far. 12-3B is not THAT bad, but 12-3A... whoever thought it's fine to stack mobs that can spam overload and electrocute you while being able to basically 3-shot anyone who's not Zhongli or Hu Tao should be fired after getting burned and electrocuted himself. Only got 1 star there in the end, took like 5 attempts in the first half.
    Expected to see a different number after a rant like that. 5 attempts is what, like, 10 minutes? Doesn’t seem that bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tang0 View Post
    Expected to see a different number after a rant like that. 5 attempts is what, like, 10 minutes? Doesn’t seem that bad.
    The floor isn't as stupidly overtuned in terms of numbers as the previous lockout. It took me 5 attempts for RNG bursts and teleports align well enough that it didn't take a single CC window for one of my characters to die. Fortunately I have a decently built Qiqi who was able to heal through all the undodgeable damage. It's just that it was incredibly annoying and not even based on skill, because you are very likely to dodge one skill that you HAVE to dodge and get hit by others exactly the moment the dodge ends and before you can dodge again. It's pure RNG that you can't fully bypass by chaining ults, since the herald drains energy.
    And then another thing is also that 12-3A pretty much forces you to skip any characters that apply hydro/pyro and possibly cryo aura, because you WILL get overloaded/electrocuted even more + possibly frozen.
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    So in the event area can anyone explain how to do the mini games (the wall paintings and hoop ones) the game popped up a tutorial but for some reason it disappeared before i could read it and i have no idea what i need to do to complete them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gutler View Post
    So in the event area can anyone explain how to do the mini games (the wall paintings and hoop ones) the game popped up a tutorial but for some reason it disappeared before i could read it and i have no idea what i need to do to complete them.
    for both you need to equip the "ball" gadget
    for the wall one, you throw the ball to the wall, then use the skill to return the ball to the wall, sometimes there can be more than 1 coming back and you have to send all of them back or the wall HP reset.

    for the hoops, it's a bit of a puzzle, you can most of the times change the positions of some of the hoops, you have to activate the puzzle standing on the weight detector, throw the ball to the first hoop and it must end on the target. some target are colored and need an element from the colored hoops, the wind hoops send the ball at 90° toward the green arrow on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeenith View Post
    for both you need to equip the "ball" gadget
    for the wall one, you throw the ball to the wall, then use the skill to return the ball to the wall, sometimes there can be more than 1 coming back and you have to send all of them back or the wall HP reset.

    for the hoops, it's a bit of a puzzle, you can most of the times change the positions of some of the hoops, you have to activate the puzzle standing on the weight detector, throw the ball to the first hoop and it must end on the target. some target are colored and need an element from the colored hoops, the wind hoops send the ball at 90° toward the green arrow on them.
    Hmmm thanks i dont seem to have the ball gadget yet maybe its something you get from doing the event story?

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    Don't sweat the details!!!

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    Thats pretty funny put it on reddit please

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gutler View Post
    Hmmm thanks i dont seem to have the ball gadget yet maybe its something you get from doing the event story?
    It is something you get from the event story quest.

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    So it was pretty obvious about the Dodo King but I'm curious why they would have sent a letter to Diluc instead of Lisa.

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    So, now that the story is over, there's still some stuff that never got explained. There's still a ton of stuff that happened on that island, some of it really bad. Are we just gonna gloss over that a whole place was wiped out for the sake of Alice's prank? And what's the deal with the mechanical samurai? Did Alice build it? There are references to it I believe from the former villagers, unless I'm thinking of the gang's discussion about it. Lastly, Venti was in on it, right? He would have had to be. Given his god status, Alice probably contacted him. Otherwise I don't see how Alice would have expected them to get there.

    I guess there's also the question of what Klee and Alice are. Something Elvish would make sense given Klee's ears and their supposed long life span. But Alice is also described as nearly omnipotent. Could she be half-adepti like Ganyu and Yan Fei? She'd be from Liyue if that were the case.


    The last event is easy, once you realize that the single-target bombs are worthless. Pretty crappy design, forcing you to "switch" to them after every cooldown, and going into the menu to change which ones you use. Should only take 30 minutes or so to gather up the currency to collect everything.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gutler View Post
    Hmmm thanks i dont seem to have the ball gadget yet maybe its something you get from doing the event story?
    Barbara gives it to Klee at the end of the second day's story I think. The weird thing is, you can interact with those things and get the tutorials before you do the story quest to get the ball.

    The tennis ones are simple, use it on the wall and then use normal attack to bounce it back. The rings are a lot more complicated. You can move some ( gotta walk up to them to see which ways you can move em), and the elemental ones will turn your ball that element. Each wall will be destroyed by a certain element, so the ball has to travel through that ring to get the element infused. The rings will tell you which way the ball will travel once it hits it, but only while you're standing on the platform that activates it. Which to me seems like the worst part of it.

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    Alice could be the pyro archon
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    So... as I thought, the stages with the heralds are the most annoying ones.

    I don't own a single Anemo character or rather, I haven't build any (I only have Sucrose + Traveler)
    They are not fun to deal with.
    The energy-steal is the most annoying.

    I was lucky enough to clear everything with 9 stars (had to retry 12-3 3 times and readjust the team, but it's really not fun to play against them.)
    Eula isn't really helping against those like at all, pretty annoying.
    I get that not every character can be useful against everything, but I'm still annoyed at the fact that every elemental reaction seems to do the same against those, it doesn't matter what element you bring.

    It's the same shit with the Fatui + Abyss mage shields honestly.
    Why the heck do they have different counters even though they use the same elemental shield

    edit: I just noticed, that the Abyss Mages can't have a proper "elemental counter-setup circle"

    Fire > Frost-shield
    Frost > Water-shield
    Water > Fire
    Electro (Patch 1.7) -> ?????


    The Fatui work just fine and if Abyss Mages would use the same weakness, it would work

    Fire > Frost-shield
    Frost > Electro-shield
    Electro > Water-shield
    Water > Fire-shield

    grrrr....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendulous View Post
    So, now that the story is over, there's still some stuff that never got explained. There's still a ton of stuff that happened on that island, some of it really bad. Are we just gonna gloss over that a whole place was wiped out for the sake of Alice's prank?
    Considering killing, or at the very least bullying hillichurls seems to be a popular pastime in the universe, I guess we are. At the very least Traveler should be starting to grow some conscience now that they know they were humans (and they aren't 100% devolved), but well, I guess we're gonna be waiting for that.

    On the other hand, Alice's Chinese VA is absolutely beautiful and I'm definitely simping and pulling for her if she ever becomes playable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendulous View Post
    So, now that the story is over, there's still some stuff that never got explained. There's still a ton of stuff that happened on that island, some of it really bad. Are we just gonna gloss over that a whole place was wiped out for the sake of Alice's prank? And what's the deal with the mechanical samurai? Did Alice build it? There are references to it I believe from the former villagers, unless I'm thinking of the gang's discussion about it. Lastly, Venti was in on it, right? He would have had to be. Given his god status, Alice probably contacted him. Otherwise I don't see how Alice would have expected them to get there.

    I guess there's also the question of what Klee and Alice are. Something Elvish would make sense given Klee's ears and their supposed long life span. But Alice is also described as nearly omnipotent. Could she be half-adepti like Ganyu and Yan Fei? She'd be from Liyue if that were the case.


    The last event is easy, once you realize that the single-target bombs are worthless. Pretty crappy design, forcing you to "switch" to them after every cooldown, and going into the menu to change which ones you use. Should only take 30 minutes or so to gather up the currency to collect everything.
    It sounded like the only thing she really altered was adding dodo shit all over the place. The samurai was there protecting the people that eventually were able to leave. I'm not sure if she altered it so it would attack us or if she deactivated it or what. She did say she was there before and they are long lived so I wonder if she was the one who helped everyone escape. It's strange she would invite Diluc instead of Lisa when Lisa actually interacts with Klee and gives her treats and stuff while Diluc has no connect to her just Kaeya. Unless she was trying to help mend their releationship I don't see any reason why she would invite him. Before today I suspected that maybe Lisa was helping Alice out since she also in lore is an op mage/scholar too, told us how to read the map, and would have access to everyone but I guess not.

    The single target bombs are supposed to be for the big guys. Not sure if it was a bug or what but on my first group I couldn't do any dmg with the bombs until I hit the slimes shield.

    Quote Originally Posted by Airlick View Post
    Considering killing, or at the very least bullying hillichurls seems to be a popular pastime in the universe, I guess we are. At the very least Traveler should be starting to grow some conscience now that they know they were humans (and they aren't 100% devolved), but well, I guess we're gonna be waiting for that.

    On the other hand, Alice's Chinese VA is absolutely beautiful and I'm definitely simping and pulling for her if she ever becomes playable.
    Pretty sure Hillichurls are a natural species its just the abyss mages and other abyss beings that were once humans which is why the dailies with mages and hillichurls talk about preventing them from being recruited.
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    Quote Originally Posted by qwerty123456 View Post
    It sounded like the only thing she really altered was adding dodo shit all over the place. The samurai was there protecting the people that eventually were able to leave. I'm not sure if she altered it so it would attack us or if she deactivated it or what. She did say she was there before and they are long lived so I wonder if she was the one who helped everyone escape. It's strange she would invite Diluc instead of Lisa when Lisa actually interacts with Klee and gives her treats and stuff while Diluc has no connect to her just Kaeya. Unless she was trying to help mend their releationship I don't see any reason why she would invite him. Before today I suspected that maybe Lisa was helping Alice out since she also in lore is an op mage/scholar too, told us how to read the map, and would have access to everyone but I guess not.

    The single target bombs are supposed to be for the big guys. Not sure if it was a bug or what but on my first group I couldn't do any dmg with the bombs until I hit the slimes shield.



    Pretty sure Hillichurls are a natural species its just the abyss mages and other abyss beings that were once humans which is why the dailies with mages and hillichurls talk about preventing them from being recruited.
    Lisa probaly knew what is going on and she was told to give them a direction to island. Same for venti.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    So... as I thought, the stages with the heralds are the most annoying ones.

    I don't own a single Anemo character or rather, I haven't build any (I only have Sucrose + Traveler)
    They are not fun to deal with.
    The energy-steal is the most annoying.

    I was lucky enough to clear everything with 9 stars (had to retry 12-3 3 times and readjust the team, but it's really not fun to play against them.)
    Eula isn't really helping against those like at all, pretty annoying.
    I get that not every character can be useful against everything, but I'm still annoyed at the fact that every elemental reaction seems to do the same against those, it doesn't matter what element you bring.

    It's the same shit with the Fatui + Abyss mage shields honestly.
    Why the heck do they have different counters even though they use the same elemental shield

    edit: I just noticed, that the Abyss Mages can't have a proper "elemental counter-setup circle"

    Fire > Frost-shield
    Frost > Water-shield
    Water > Fire
    Electro (Patch 1.7) -> ?????


    The Fatui work just fine and if Abyss Mages would use the same weakness, it would work

    Fire > Frost-shield
    Frost > Electro-shield
    Electro > Water-shield
    Water > Fire-shield

    grrrr....
    Spamming a lot of reactions seems like the best way to get rid of heralds shields and anemo is there for that (swirl). Why do you think they are trying to sell us kazuha. He is a counter against them.


    Oh also there is update in database for new mobs:
    https://genshin.honeyhunterworld.com/db/enemy/?
    Don't sweat the details!!!

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