Thread: Genshin Impact

  1. #7261
    Yeah seems a bit risky for Mihoyo to release another cyro melee dps so soon after Eula, she seems to be attracting a lot of people to skip on her. We already have Eula as a physical dps and Ganyu as a wrecking ball of a cyro dps, what would Ayaka really even do differently to stand out over them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Very Tired View Post
    Yeah seems a bit risky for Mihoyo to release another cyro melee dps so soon after Eula, she seems to be attracting a lot of people to skip on her. We already have Eula as a physical dps and Ganyu as a wrecking ball of a cyro dps, what would Ayaka really even do differently to stand out over them?
    I could be misunderstanding how her abilities work, but I think Ayaka is intended as a support DPS, where you pop her stuff and then switch to a different character. Compared to Eula, who is intended to be a main dps, or Ganyu, who can technically be both.

    Although even by that logic, we already have Kaeya, Rosaria, and, to a lesser extent, Diona, who can all not only fulfill a similar role, but are much easier to acquire as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RadasNoir View Post
    I could be misunderstanding how her abilities work, but I think Ayaka is intended as a support DPS, where you pop her stuff and then switch to a different character. Compared to Eula, who is intended to be a main dps, or Ganyu, who can technically be both.

    Although even by that logic, we already have Kaeya, Rosaria, and, to a lesser extent, Diona, who can all not only fulfill a similar role, but are much easier to acquire as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RadasNoir View Post
    I could be misunderstanding how her abilities work, but I think Ayaka is intended as a support DPS, where you pop her stuff and then switch to a different character. Compared to Eula, who is intended to be a main dps, or Ganyu, who can technically be both.

    Although even by that logic, we already have Kaeya, Rosaria, and, to a lesser extent, Diona, who can all not only fulfill a similar role, but are much easier to acquire as well.
    nah,her "under earth" frost dash infuse her AA with cryo + boost her damages, she's made to be main dps

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    Also Eula is cryo dps as much as Razor is electro, let's say she is a physical dps able to put cryo debuff on enemies with E and deal *some* cryo dmg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeenith View Post
    nah,her "under earth" frost dash infuse her AA with cryo + boost her damages, she's made to be main dps
    Well i can see her rotation be a dash into a enemy at start --) 18% cyro damage bonus ---) Kamisator art (30% more on normal and charged attack 6 seconds) --) 1x charged then normal attack rotation (not sure the speed of attack, but you can probaly get this in 6 seconds) --) Dash to get cyro back --) normal attack till E is up --) E

    C1 may be able to keep you from dashing once if cd resets before cyro infustion is gone.

    I would have to test her 1.st to see how its her animation attack speed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeenith View Post
    nah,her "under earth" frost dash infuse her AA with cryo + boost her damages, she's made to be main dps
    A number of other characters also have passives or constellations that buff their normal attacks, and people still use them as support dps. And outside of her dash, the bursty, fire-and-forget nature of most of her abilities seem more suited to a support dps, compared to the abilities of most other main dps-type characters, where they lose their effectiveness if you switch away from them.

    Do we know what Ayaka's raw stats are like? I think that's the other deciding factor in what her role will be. Both Hu Tao and, obviously, Eula hit like goddamn trucks even without using their abilities, for example.

    Quote Originally Posted by D3athsting View Post
    You forget Memegyun (or that's intentional maybe )
    I didn't forget him, but I've seen more people use him as a main dps, perhaps partially because the way his abilities work make using him as a support awkward for certain types of characters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RadasNoir View Post
    A number of other characters also have passives or constellations that buff their normal attacks, and people still use them as support dps. And outside of her dash, the bursty, fire-and-forget nature of most of her abilities seem more suited to a support dps, compared to the abilities of most other main dps-type characters, where they lose their effectiveness if you switch away from them.

    Do we know what Ayaka's raw stats are like? I think that's the other deciding factor in what her role will be. Both Hu Tao and, obviously, Eula hit like goddamn trucks even without using their abilities, for example.



    I didn't forget him, but I've seen more people use him as a main dps, perhaps partially because the way his abilities work make using him as a support awkward for certain types of characters.
    https://genshin.honeyhunterworld.com...ayaka/?lang=EN

    Lots of crit damage.

    342 base atk.
    Diluc 335 / 349 Xiao/ 335 Ganyu / 342 eula

    She is clearly main dps. Same stats as eula.
    Yomiya is similar like Diluc:
    https://genshin.honeyhunterworld.com...imiya/?lang=EN
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    Quote Originally Posted by RadasNoir View Post
    I didn't forget him, but I've seen more people use him as a main dps, perhaps partially because the way his abilities work make using him as a support awkward for certain types of characters.
    His normal attacks hit like a wet noodle even with gravestone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yunru View Post
    Lots of crit damage.

    342 base atk.
    Diluc 335 / 349 Xiao/ 335 Ganyu / 342 eula

    She is clearly main dps. Same stats as eula.
    Ah, alright. Forget my dumb bullshit, then.

    Well then, I guess I don't have an answer to Very Tired's question, about why they are releasing her banner so close to Eula's.

    Quote Originally Posted by D3athsting View Post
    His normal attacks hit like a wet noodle even with gravestone
    Again, just what I've seen other people do. Might be more out of loyalty to the character (if he was one of the first character's they pulled, or whatever) than out of consideration for the meta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RadasNoir View Post
    Again, just what I've seen other people do. Might be more out of loyalty to the character (if he was one of the first character's they pulled, or whatever) than out of consideration for the meta.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RadasNoir View Post
    Ah, alright. Forget my dumb bullshit, then.

    Well then, I guess I don't have an answer to Very Tired's question, about why they are releasing her banner so close to Eula's.



    Again, just what I've seen other people do. Might be more out of loyalty to the character (if he was one of the first character's they pulled, or whatever) than out of consideration for the meta.
    Eula is not pure cyro dps like Ganyu

    I mean we got a klee banner (pyro), kazuha (anemo), ayaka (cyro) and then another pyro 5 star amber.

    If you look back a bit from January --
    Cyro --) Anemo --) Electro --) Pyro --) Anemo --) Hydro --) Geo --) Cyro --) Pyro --) Anemo --) ayaka

    2 cyro , 3 anemo, 1 electro (can probaly ignore keqing), 2 pyro, 1 hydro, 1 geo
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  13. #7273
    Quote Originally Posted by Yunru View Post
    Eula is not pure cyro dps like Ganyu

    I mean we got a klee banner (pyro), kazuha (anemo), ayaka (cyro) and then another pyro 5 star amber.

    If you look back a bit from January --
    Cyro --) Anemo --) Electro --) Pyro --) Anemo --) Hydro --) Geo --) Cyro --) Pyro --) Anemo --) ayaka

    2 cyro , 3 anemo, 1 electro (can probaly ignore keqing), 2 pyro, 1 hydro, 1 geo
    you should include Albedo in your counts, since before his banner it was the 4 banners that got a rerun, so Geo count should be 2
    we really have a problem with both hydro (next char seem to be yet another catalyst) and electro (still only 1 char 5 stars, and of the 4 stars, only 2 are really usefull, 1 is mostly physical and lisa is seldom played at all)

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    I'm ready for a Ganyu rerun after Yomiya (or after Baal)
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    Quote Originally Posted by D3athsting View Post
    I'm ready for a Ganyu rerun after Yomiya (or after Baal)
    I too look forward to one day getting the first constellation for my Ganyu.
    Gotta plan for the 5* it lets me have every other banner to land on her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D3athsting View Post
    I'm ready for a Ganyu rerun after Yomiya (or after Baal)
    How much? Enogh to spend money for at least C4

    Lol that happened to me in recent abyss:


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    180 ...ugh...
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    This is the most awesome video (^_^)
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    Are we going to talk about how she keeps putting her sword into an invisible sheath?


    Also incoming wave of jokesters confused why their cyro, sword wielding Ayaka is tiny, healing them, and named Qiqi.

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    Guess I should actually do the Liyue quest chain on my alt account soon so I can actually go to Inazuma.

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    What an underwhelming entrance. They didn't even let us see the storm.

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