Thread: Genshin Impact

  1. #7821
    Quote Originally Posted by Gomelus View Post
    The last 10 levels of a character are such an insane investment for so little return I don't really think is worth it, but gl with that. Even going past lvl 6 talents has a really high cost just on the mora alone that holy shit.
    For me the issue isn't the mats that cost resin for leveling characters/weapons, but it's the farmable mats from mobs in the world or the herbs. That's always been the hard part for me. Like needing 27 Chaos Cores to do the last ascension on a weapon or needing 60 Dandelions to ascend Jean.
    Last edited by GreenJesus; 2021-09-27 at 01:55 AM.

  2. #7822
    Quote Originally Posted by blackpink View Post
    ?? Not really? The main blocker is getting that last ascension. People don't seem to have issues with getting the last ascension though. But yea, it will take a long time, that's the point. It's something to do other than spending 6 months and maybe getting a bis set for one character.
    Dunno man, I just checked to have the accurate numbers: 171 purple books and almost 685k mora to take a character from 80 to 90. That seems kinda a lot to me just to get +15 base atk. To put it resin-wise, each xp leyline gives 5,5 purple books on average, mora leylines are 60k. It should take you almost 5 days of leyline farming just to get one character from 80 to 90.
    I would personally focus on getting talents to 8/8/8, it would be more of a noticeable power spike, although a bit more expensive. Unless you level only the relevant talents (skill + burst), then it should break even.
    Again, if you want to go for lvl 90 characters as a long-term goal, you do you, but if you wanna be efficient as well with the power growth, I'd get talents first.

    The last ascension is a cockblock because of gemstones honestly, I barely got enough with lucky drops from bosses and transmuting A LOT.

    Quote Originally Posted by GreenJesus View Post
    For me the issue isn't the mats that cost resin for leveling characters/weapons, but it's the farmable mats from mobs in the world or the herbs. That's always been the hard part for me. Like needing 27 Chaos Cores to do the last ascension on a weapon or needing 60 Dandelions to ascend Jean.
    Hard as in boring or hard as in getting a lot of them? If boring, not much to say there. If getting a lot, you can probably check routes to some efficient farming, even if you're lazy, you can use the handbook that autotracks monsters now, you can get like 10 or so ruin guards per day, more if you add spots that the handbook doesn't show you.
    Last edited by Gomelus; 2021-09-27 at 02:09 AM.

  3. #7823
    How i image MHY designers made standard characters:

    -Keqing de.-:"Hello -Dilluc designer-, what you doing?"

    -Dilluc de.-:"I think i found best thing i can make for this character, you know its all about infusion of auto-attacks and spam of godly E skill that getting even better at C6, so i will add stamina reduction for charged attacks"

    -Keqing de.-:"Oh i see what you did there, so they will use charged attacks only to chop some woods even if Noelle better for this kind of job"

    -Dilluc de.-:"What about your champion? i heard its some kind DMC rip-off slashgirl?"

    -Keqing de.-:"Yes, at first i wanted to add stamina reduction on charged attacks but as i see its already been used by you i think i found other way around it, you know how electro reactions can't crit, so i will go double down on it and add crit chance passive + crit damage ascension stat"

    -Dilluc de.-:"Hats off, you beat me in this round, but mark my words when i finish my MiMi, she gonna be perfect".


    P.S.- he didn't lied about mimi, perfection!
    Last edited by cocomen2; 2021-09-27 at 07:32 AM.
    I want these classes in new x-pac Necromancer,RuneMaster,Warden,BladeMaster,DarkRanger,Dragonsworn,Alchemist,Bard,Spellbreak er

  4. #7824
    Quote Originally Posted by GreenJesus View Post
    For me the issue isn't the mats that cost resin for leveling characters/weapons, but it's the farmable mats from mobs in the world or the herbs. That's always been the hard part for me. Like needing 27 Chaos Cores to do the last ascension on a weapon or needing 60 Dandelions to ascend Jean.
    It depends on the ressource, the chaos cores for example are now really really easy to gather and fast too. Raiden's flower was super easy as well and I did it in less than ~5 minutes of actual playtime.

    But I wonder how new players do that stuff.
    You literally can't upgrade Kokomi/Raiden in the first 90 hours of gameplay or so.

    Imagine you are a new player, roll on Raiden Banner, and get a character you can't use because you don't have the upgrade materials as you don't have the new stuff unlocked yet.

  5. #7825
    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    Imagine you are a new player, roll on Raiden Banner, and get a character you can't use because you don't have the upgrade materials as you don't have the new stuff unlocked yet.
    There should a tab in the shop for ascension mats, even 10 a month (or even a 1-time buy) would be good enough. That's enough to get a character to level 50, and that's all a new player realistically needs before they level up enough to even be able to level past that, and by then they can access all areas for ascension mats.

    It's an oversight that shows that Mihoyo may not care that much about QoL changes for new players, but really, this problem feels mostly theoretical right now. It takes a while to get 75+ wishes, even as a new player, so they'd be making that change for 1% of new players who get lucky and get a 5* before pity (which is probably literally tens of people worldwide). As I recall, the starter rewards are mostly blue wishes, so you're not getting a new character from those. So by the time you actually get a limited banner character, chances are you will be AR30+ and can get to any area you need. It will get worse in time, but that is also probably the time Mihoyo will have to make those QoL changes.
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxos View Post
    When you play the game of MMOs, you win or you go f2p.

  6. #7826
    *sigh*

    Dragalia lost has 3rd anniversiy event going

    10 rolls every day for over a month. On top of 100 free rolls during an event.

    Imagine Mihoyo, imagine.
    Too bad the game doesn't work on PC
    Last edited by KrayZ33; 2021-09-27 at 10:50 AM.

  7. #7827
    When is Yae Miko coming? and will they ever buff other 4* characters that are just useless? or buff the original 5* characters? like Mona Keqing? etc

  8. #7828
    The Unstoppable Force Belize's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Gen-OT College of Shitposting
    Posts
    20,942
    Quote Originally Posted by Nzembwamugumbwalchu View Post
    When is Yae Miko coming?
    Current leaks say 2.5

  9. #7829
    Titan Yunru's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    The Continent of Orsterra
    Posts
    11,269
    Hm:
    Trustworthy Uncle 竜宫一心 claims Itto + Xiao in 2.4, during next year's Lantern Rite.
    https://twitter.com/SaveYourPrimos/s...27901836546049

    Makes sense since there is no leaks for Itto model yet.
    Don't sweat the details!!!

  10. #7830
    I finally uninstalled. Was a really good fun game. I regret spending money on it, but it was still a very well designed game as far as playing it goes, the gacha just wasn't very reasonable, especially on the weapon side. I know that this game has better gacha mechanics than others (I wouldn't know this was my first), but it wasn't actually fun, unless you got lucky, otherwise it just felt bad.

  11. #7831
    Titan Yunru's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    The Continent of Orsterra
    Posts
    11,269
    Quote Originally Posted by Wrecktangle View Post
    I finally uninstalled. Was a really good fun game. I regret spending money on it, but it was still a very well designed game as far as playing it goes, the gacha just wasn't very reasonable, especially on the weapon side. I know that this game has better gacha mechanics than others (I wouldn't know this was my first), but it wasn't actually fun, unless you got lucky, otherwise it just felt bad.
    This is a problem. You spend a lot of money . I spend only on sub and 4 times on battlepass to get weapons. Never on gems.
    I spend like 100 euro or something. Maybe more.
    It makes characters you roll on much more of a tactic :P
    Right now all i have to do is wait for c1 hu-tao and then nothing till next year realy. I dont expect dendro area till next April 2022.
    Don't sweat the details!!!

  12. #7832
    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    You literally can't upgrade Kokomi/Raiden in the first 90 hours of gameplay or so.

    Imagine you are a new player, roll on Raiden Banner, and get a character you can't use because you don't have the upgrade materials as you don't have the new stuff unlocked yet.
    If you paid any attention you’d know there are ascension mats available for all new characters.

    They made it even easier than it ever was literally this patch. The only downtime is ar25-30 for inazuma characters, even then they are lvl 40 instead of potential lvl 50. The horror.

  13. #7833
    Quote Originally Posted by Tang0 View Post
    If you paid any attention you’d know there are ascension mats available for all new characters.

    They made it even easier than it ever was literally this patch. The only downtime is ar25-30 for inazuma characters, even then they are lvl 40 instead of potential lvl 50. The horror.
    It's a problem that's only going to continue getting worse the longer Mihoyo doesn't address it.

    Imagine new players finally giving Genshin a try way later in the future. They hear everyone talking about the cool, new Tsaritsa banner and are initially excited when they actually manage to pull her!

    But then, they realize they have to travel through hours and hours of Archon and Story quests before they can even properly level her. It will seem like a waste of primogems to them and might, at best, make them more hesitant to spend primogems/money in the future or, at worst, cause them to give up on the game entirely when they realize they likewise might not be able to properly level any of the new characters they get from the special banners.

  14. #7834
    Weeb Queen Video Games's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Portland (send help)
    Posts
    15,495
    Quote Originally Posted by RadasNoir View Post
    It's a problem that's only going to continue getting worse the longer Mihoyo doesn't address it.

    Imagine new players finally giving Genshin a try way later in the future. They hear everyone talking about the cool, new Tsaritsa banner and are initially excited when they actually manage to pull her!

    But then, they realize they have to travel through hours and hours of Archon and Story quests before they can even properly level her. It will seem like a waste of primogems to them and might, at best, make them more hesitant to spend primogems/money in the future or, at worst, cause them to give up on the game entirely when they realize they likewise might not be able to properly level any of the new characters they get from the special banners.
    You mean people who start a 5-6 year old live service game will be 5-6 years behind? Whoa!

  15. #7835
    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    You mean people who start a 5-6 year old live service game will be 5-6 years behind? Whoa!
    Your capacity to miss the point is truly admirable.

  16. #7836
    Quote Originally Posted by Tang0 View Post
    They made it even easier than it ever was literally this patch. The only downtime is ar25-30 for inazuma characters, even then they are lvl 40 instead of potential lvl 50. The horror.
    What did they change?
    I'm not going to try it out but I assume you are already way higher than AR30 when you want to visit Inazuma.

    Either way, it will just add up.
    Last edited by KrayZ33; 2021-09-27 at 06:04 PM.

  17. #7837
    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    You mean people who start a 5-6 year old live service game will be 5-6 years behind? Whoa!
    Pretty much any game that demands its players jump through 100 hoops just to be current in the game (as far as what they have access to participating in), as opposed to allowing players to go back in-time if they so desire, dies. It's a problem they'll have to address.

    They'll already be behind enough just because they won't have the plethora of characters available to them, nor the stockpile of resources. Don't salt the wound.

    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    What did they change?
    I'm not going to try it out but I assume you are already way higher than AR30 when you want to visit Inazuma.

    Either way, it will just add up.
    I, too, am curious. While mobs respawn faster, they also seem to drop absolutely abysmal amounts of resources. Gray resource is an insult coming from higher world level.

    It becomes monotonous to level new characters (talents, ascension, etc) after a certain amount of time. Shop should carry unlimited amount of the materials it does so I can circumvent the most mundane parts of the game.
    Last edited by BeepBoo; 2021-09-27 at 06:20 PM.

  18. #7838
    Titan Yunru's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    The Continent of Orsterra
    Posts
    11,269
    Leaks:


    For next patch.
    Don't sweat the details!!!

  19. #7839
    Quote Originally Posted by Gomelus View Post
    Dunno man, I just checked to have the accurate numbers: 171 purple books and almost 685k mora to take a character from 80 to 90. That seems kinda a lot to me just to get +15 base atk. To put it resin-wise, each xp leyline gives 5,5 purple books on average, mora leylines are 60k. It should take you almost 5 days of leyline farming just to get one character from 80 to 90.
    I would personally focus on getting talents to 8/8/8, it would be more of a noticeable power spike, although a bit more expensive. Unless you level only the relevant talents (skill + burst), then it should break even.
    Again, if you want to go for lvl 90 characters as a long-term goal, you do you, but if you wanna be efficient as well with the power growth, I'd get talents first.

    The last ascension is a cockblock because of gemstones honestly, I barely got enough with lucky drops from bosses and transmuting A LOT.
    Here's the thing...I'm assuming most people just used up all their purple xp books cuz they were too lazy to do like 10 xp leylines (from 1-70). I never did that, and so I have like over 1500 purple xp books and I have like 6 lv 90s atm. I always just did a couple leylines to level them up combined with the zillion blue xp books I've hoarded over time. On the other hand, there's absolutely nothing you can do about the ascension gemstones. Unless you get really lucky, on average it takes 5 days.

  20. #7840
    Weeb Queen Video Games's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Portland (send help)
    Posts
    15,495
    Quote Originally Posted by RadasNoir View Post
    Your capacity to miss the point is truly admirable.
    Your point was they should do something. My point is they probably wont because its a gatcha

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •