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    So is this actually worth trying? Will it be useless to even try after all these freebies they’ve given out? Is it pay to win and hope for freebies or can you realistically advance in the GAME without forking over a penny or waiting for feebies? I have zero interest in spending a single cent on a gacha game, is it worth trying?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladey Gags View Post
    So is this actually worth trying? Will it be useless to even try after all these freebies they’ve given out? Is it pay to win and hope for freebies or can you realistically advance in the GAME without forking over a penny or waiting for feebies? I have zero interest in spending a single cent on a gacha game, is it worth trying?
    Well free to play players that started before do have a bit more advantage, but not by much. If you realy wana start, do it today because patch hits tommorow and re-rolling for 5 star characters wont be possible anymore.

    Also we get free primogems tommorow due to maintrance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladey Gags View Post
    So is this actually worth trying? Will it be useless to even try after all these freebies they’ve given out? Is it pay to win and hope for freebies or can you realistically advance in the GAME without forking over a penny or waiting for feebies? I have zero interest in spending a single cent on a gacha game, is it worth trying?
    1) Yes. Very worth trying. Lots to do and patch with more hits on the 11th.

    2) No, its not useless after the freebies. You can always earn more, slowly, but it is there to be able to. About 150 gems a day just from playing when you get to rank 12.

    3) No pay to win to it. Its possible, with skill, to beat even the most challenging content currently in game with nothing but the free characters that you get. One guy has done just that without ever using the roll system.

    4) Yes, you can advance without spending money. Spending money only slightly increases the speed, if you're lucky. They have a daily limit as to how many times you could refill the resin, (games energy system for higher content), with money.

    TLDR: you can do even the best content, as long as you're skilled, without ever touching the gacha system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladey Gags View Post
    So is this actually worth trying? Will it be useless to even try after all these freebies they’ve given out? Is it pay to win and hope for freebies or can you realistically advance in the GAME without forking over a penny or waiting for feebies? I have zero interest in spending a single cent on a gacha game, is it worth trying?
    It's not P2W because there's nothing to "win". It's mostly a single player game as of now. If they ever add a competitive element like PvP, it would certainly be P2W, but that seems doubtful. As others said, you can complete all of the game's content without rolling - and unless you make a challenge for yourself, you WILL be rolling as F2P, as well, just a lot slower.
    But then you are definitely going to hit a resource wall past AR30, especially if you didn't hoard materials and limited yourself mostly to upgrading your 2 main DPS. But that's the nature of the game, if you pay a bit (blessing + BP, which means ~15 dollars a month), you may hit that wall a lot later or not at all, but it's there. Levelling characters and weapons requires 5 different types of resources, all of which are time-gated. You're still going to pass that wall as F2P eventually, but it's painfully slow.
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  5. #1845
    I wonder what the new weapon banners will look like.
    Not really interested in the characters except for the 5* and 4* but I'm too far away from getting Childe.
    I have no room for Beidou (even though she's one of the coolest characters) and Ninguang works just fine with C0.

    A good 4* weapon however... like.. Rust or Lion Heart. Hell, I could work with that.
    And the rates are better in the weapon banner too.

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    ... The next banner is really annoying.
    Because I don't want 2 of the 4* characters, and don't care about the 5*..

    Oh well, I need me that loli

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladey Gags View Post
    So is this actually worth trying? Will it be useless to even try after all these freebies they’ve given out? Is it pay to win and hope for freebies or can you realistically advance in the GAME without forking over a penny or waiting for feebies? I have zero interest in spending a single cent on a gacha game, is it worth trying?
    I was actually in your position a couple of weeks ago regarding this game. There's a very split opinion on this game spread across the internet where some call it good and the others call it gacha trash. In my opinion both are partly true, it is a gacha game and buying the ingame currency just to roll on stuff is pure gambling with horrible "win" rates. It is however a fairly good game in regards to the story and overall feel of the game.

    There's generally only two things that are "worth it" to buy in this game and that is the battle pass (10$) and a monthly currency pack (5$).

    My recommendation: Try it. It's free so it doesn't really hurt putting a couple of hours into it to see if you enjoy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Temp name View Post
    ... The next banner is really annoying.
    Because I don't want 2 of the 4* characters, and don't care about the 5*..

    Oh well, I need me that loli
    That's kind of where I'm at for the current banner I just really want Xingqiu to compliment my Keqing, but don't want to keep dumping all my primogems into it.

    really excited for the loli though as next time I need to trek across the ocean she will make it way faster than it was with Kaeya.
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    Dang, so the next banner is Childe after all. Guess I'm going to be continuing to save up my primogens for Zhongli.

    Diona is cute, but as a bow-user, she's no Fischl. Beidou is awesome, but she's no Razor (and I switched to Klee as my primary DPS, anyway). I already managed to get Ninnguang from one of my "free" Acquaint Fate rolls. And Childe has a neat design and gimmick, but I friggin' hate his guts for story reasons. Also, even as a 5*, I doubt he's going to be on par with Fischl or Venti.

    Still crossing my fingers and hoping both Zhongli and Xinyan are good. Kind of have the cards stacked against them though, what with Zhongli being Geo and Xinyan's abilities sounding way too defensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RadasNoir View Post
    Dang, so the next banner is Childe after all. Guess I'm going to be continuing to save up my primogens for Zhongli.

    Diona is cute, but as a bow-user, she's no Fischl. Beidou is awesome, but she's no Razor (and I switched to Klee as my primary DPS, anyway). I already managed to get Ninnguang from one of my "free" Acquaint Fate rolls. And Childe has a neat design and gimmick, but I friggin' hate his guts for story reasons. Also, even as a 5*, I doubt he's going to be on par with Fischl or Venti.
    From the looks of it Childe is going to be a DPS. The only "good" bow dps char currently is Fischl but as you mentioned she is only a 4* which means that she will have lower base stats than Childe. Just comparing them 1 to 1 Childe is almost certainly be better than Fischl. By how much? Dunno.
    Still crossing my fingers and hoping both Zhongli and Xinyan are good. Kind of have the cards stacked against them though, what with Zhongli being Geo and Xinyan's abilities sounding way too defensive.
    There were some leaks previously that mentioned Zhonglis ATK multipliers and those were huge. 700% ATK multi for his elemental burst for example.

    Additionally I doubt that Mihoyo would release a subpar 5* character. It just doesn't make much sense when those are in my opinion the biggest driving factors for players spending money in the game.

  11. #1851
    No matter how good a Primary DPS you build Fischl to be, she's simply too godlike as a Support DPS to not use in that role if you can.

    Of course, we'll have to see just how good Childe is. There's no guarantee that a 5* will be as good as other 5* characters, or even particularly amazing on their own. (See: Jean)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yunru View Post
    Well free to play players that started before do have a bit more advantage, but not by much. If you realy wana start, do it today because patch hits tommorow and re-rolling for 5 star characters wont be possible anymore.
    How can they possibly fix creating a new account to reroll?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeepBoo View Post
    How can they possibly fix creating a new account to reroll?
    By not giving away the piles of Primo that every new account received.

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    Kinda pissed i have to wait to get zhongli'd

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bovinity Divinity View Post
    By not giving away the piles of Primo that every new account received.
    So... there's no first hit? I don't know of a gacha game alive that doesn't have some kind of free character roll(s) very early in the game. That sounds like a horrible mistake to me, but who knows... maybe they topped out and aren't expecting any new players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bovinity Divinity View Post
    Of course, we'll have to see just how good Childe is. There's no guarantee that a 5* will be as good as other 5* characters, or even particularly amazing on their own. (See: Jean)
    What? Jean is incredibly good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeepBoo View Post
    So... there's no first hit? I don't know of a gacha game alive that doesn't have some kind of free character roll(s) very early in the game. That sounds like a horrible mistake to me, but who knows... maybe they topped out and aren't expecting any new players.
    There are still a few free rolls, but you won't be getting the two(?) free 10-rolls that you got from the initial launch celebration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lindon View Post
    What? Jean is incredibly good.
    Jean is extremely ok. She's a good all-rounder in a game where you kinda want 4 specialists in a party.

    If you had to pick one character to solo content with, she'd be great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    Kinda pissed i have to wait to get zhongli'd
    I really don't get what everyone's fascination with him is. Like, at all.
    Is it just because he's hot? Because I don't see it personally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lindon View Post
    From the looks of it Childe is going to be a DPS. The only "good" bow dps char currently is Fischl but as you mentioned she is only a 4* which means that she will have lower base stats than Childe. Just comparing them 1 to 1 Childe is almost certainly be better than Fischl. By how much? Dunno.
    Ah, I always forget the fact that 5* have inherently higher base stats as well. Even if it does turn out he's amazing, I think I'll still probably stick with Fischl, rather than gamble away my gems on a character I'm not all that fond of.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lindon View Post
    There were some leaks previously that mentioned Zhonglis ATK multipliers and those were huge. 700% ATK multi for his elemental burst for example.

    Additionally I doubt that Mihoyo would release a subpar 5* character. It just doesn't make much sense when those are in my opinion the biggest driving factors for players spending money in the game.
    That sounds promising, at least. Zhongli is probably my favorite character from Genshin right now, so I was going to roll for him and upgrade him regardless, but knowing he's also a decent character from a gameplay perspective would help make me feel better about the cost of doing so.

    And while you're right that Mihoyo would likely never intentionally release a subpar 5* character, there is sometimes a disconnect between what a developer believes is good and what the players actually end up parsing out. Also, from a sheer statistical standpoint, especially as more and more characters get released, there are bound to be some stinkers in there, even if "stinker" simply means a 5* that's just subpar when compared to similar 5*s.
    Only a fool fights in a burning house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Temp name View Post
    Is it just because he's hot?
    Heeeeeeeeeeeww

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