Thread: Genshin Impact

  1. #7701
    Quote Originally Posted by blackpink View Post
    They expected to get a character they don't have to invest anything into, don't have to pay anything, but can one shot anything.
    I mean we can put a dollar amount on the resources it takes JUST to guarantee you get the banner 5* at all. Mihoyo was already kind enough to do that. It's like $300. Hell, even if it's "only" $200, this is a SINGLE FUCKING CHARACTER.

    I'd think $200 is more than enough to get a fucking character to absolute pinnacle potential? But apparently there are people out there claiming "I'm only at C2" instead of saying "I spent hundreds of dollars on this virtual waifu", normalizing gacha spending and whaling in general... Lolwut.

    Nah. $200 worth of value should get you the fucking moon in a p2w game. That's over triple times a high quality single player RPG.
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  2. #7702
    Quote Originally Posted by minteK917 View Post
    I mean C0 raiden is amazing sub dps. But also her C3 damage is bonkers. More then double her damage, the thing is C3 raiden is about on par with C6 Ganyu according to the math i was shown. So its like if you want to whale a main dps, Raiden is a half price whaling dps. And if you want to just have her as a sub DPS C0 is one the best battery ingame. Shes just not a universal C0, like venti or Zong, which would have made no sense because of the potential to carry. I think they pretty much do this on purpose, they kinda force people to whale money into main dps if you wanna do big damage. C0 ganyu aint too impressive either. Venti and Zong straight out dont main carry. Basicly when ever an archon show and they can main dps or any carry dps for that mather, either they wont scale too high (Diluc, keking, etc), or they scales ridiculously high and you need to whale to unlock it. Raiden, Ganyu, etc.

    It does suck for the baido interaction, but the problem is not that shes weak, shes fucking strong, inline with all the other whale carry damage wise. Also if they ever go around and make a pass at making electro reaction not suck, she can only get better lol. Hell she also cant be power crept as easily as someone like diluc, because she power up the rest of her team Burst, meaning new OP burst, helps her in the future. Overall, solid character, not to most universal as the two previous archons.
    Just to give you an idea how much shit Raiden gets, a certain streamer said Raiden isn't better than Ayaka, which blows my mind. Raiden is better in every single way and it's not even close.

    My only complaint with her is that I can't really maximize her burst very well because if I use all my 80 energy bursts on my characters and then use her burst, it one shots the enemies and then I can't get energy back. Strong Raiden problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeepBoo View Post
    I mean we can put a dollar amount on the resources it takes JUST to guarantee you get the banner 5* at all. Mihoyo was already kind enough to do that. It's like $300. Hell, even if it's "only" $200, this is a SINGLE FUCKING CHARACTER.

    I'd think $200 is more than enough to get a fucking character to absolute pinnacle potential? But apparently there are people out there claiming "I'm only at C2" instead of saying "I spent hundreds of dollars on this virtual waifu", normalizing gacha spending and whaling in general... Lolwut.

    Nah. $200 worth of value should get you the fucking moon in a p2w game. That's over triple times a high quality single player RPG.
    You're free to just not play the game or pay anything. No one's forcing you.

  3. #7703
    Can someone suggest a kokomi build?
    there is HP, attack, hydro etc to consider. I am not looking for a pure healer but if you wanted to dps with her how would you build her? what artifacts and their main stats? what substats you would prefer?

  4. #7704
    Quote Originally Posted by Gref View Post
    Can someone suggest a kokomi build?
    there is HP, attack, hydro etc to consider. I am not looking for a pure healer but if you wanted to dps with her how would you build her? what artifacts and their main stats? what substats you would prefer?
    Character isn’t even out yet…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gref View Post
    Can someone suggest a kokomi build?
    there is HP, attack, hydro etc to consider. I am not looking for a pure healer but if you wanted to dps with her how would you build her? what artifacts and their main stats? what substats you would prefer?
    HP/Atk/HP/Hydro damage/Healing bonus

    Healing bonus increases her Q damage.
    https://genshin.honeyhunterworld.com...okomi/?lang=EN

    Also healing from Maiden Beloved set increases healing you if you dont belive me, put 2 set piece on random character and you will see stats increase.

    Heart of Depth + Maiden Beloved
    Heart of Depth + Tenacity of the Millelith
    4 set Heart of Depth for pure dps i guess.
    Don't sweat the details!!!

  6. #7706
    Quote Originally Posted by BeepBoo View Post
    I mean we can put a dollar amount on the resources it takes JUST to guarantee you get the banner 5* at all. Mihoyo was already kind enough to do that. It's like $300. Hell, even if it's "only" $200, this is a SINGLE FUCKING CHARACTER.

    I'd think $200 is more than enough to get a fucking character to absolute pinnacle potential? But apparently there are people out there claiming "I'm only at C2" instead of saying "I spent hundreds of dollars on this virtual waifu", normalizing gacha spending and whaling in general... Lolwut.

    Nah. $200 worth of value should get you the fucking moon in a p2w game. That's over triple times a high quality single player RPG.
    I don't really get the connection to the quote you made but:

    Gems have no value, you can get them ingame.
    When you have someone at C2, it doesn't mean he spent a single dime.
    You can get pretty safely (like 90%+ chance) every other character featured in a 5* banner. Skip one, and you have C1, skip another and you have C2.

    Raiden is F2P friendly. Especially since "The Catch" is a good weapon for her.
    I do pay for stuff in this game. But the characters I want are usually free up to ~c1/c2 for me.
    Where I actually spent money is on weapon banners.

    Most of my 5* are at C1 - with Ayaka being the exception (my whale character - C6).
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  7. #7707
    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    I don't really get the connection to the quote you made but:
    The connection is exactly what you say. Gems do have value. A direct dollar value. Just because they reward you with gems for doing busy work doesn't mean they have no value. In addition, insinuating people wanting $200 worth of value to feel like $200 instead of having to shell out $800+ for c6 to get to OP levels is "for free" like the poster I quoted originally is retarded to me. It's no where near "for free" just because people stockpiled, got lucky on the slot machine, etc. Again, we can easily boil it down to the dollar value.

    Skip one, and you have C1, skip another and you have C2.
    Lets be real. No one is saving anything in 90% of cases. They're tossing money at it.

    You're free to just not play the game or pay anything. No one's forcing you.
    I can simultaneously enjoy a game well enough and still lambast the parts I absolutely abhor, thx. I did it for 12 years with wow. I'll do it with a greedy simplistic chinese virtual casino money printing machine.

  8. #7708
    I don't get why a second childe rerun and not a ganyu
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  9. #7709
    Quote Originally Posted by BeepBoo View Post
    The connection is exactly what you say. Gems do have value. A direct dollar value. Just because they reward you with gems for doing busy work doesn't mean they have no value. In addition, insinuating people wanting $200 worth of value to feel like $200 instead of having to shell out $800+ for c6 to get to OP levels is "for free" like the poster I quoted originally is retarded to me. It's no where near "for free" just because people stockpiled, got lucky on the slot machine, etc. Again, we can easily boil it down to the dollar value.
    No... it doesn't cost 200€ because there is not 1 way to get gems and there is not 1 way to pay for gems.
    They don't really have value in €.

    It doesn't cost 200€ to C2 a character.
    It costs 0€ for Player A, 10€ for player B, 200€ for player C - even if you completely ignore the slot-machine aspect of it all.
    I can get 2700 gems for 50€ or for 5€ in this game.


    Lets be real. No one is saving anything in 90% of cases. They're tossing money at it.
    Yes, lets be real.
    Not even close to 90% of the people spend money on character banners.
    And not even close to 90% spent money to get C1/C2.

    I'll skip Kokomi, Toma, whatever that Oni guy is and Gorou.
    so at the earliest, until I have to spend gems again, I'll have roughly 200/250(if I include the banner duration itself and depending on how "generous" the events are) pulls saved up by spending 10€ (30-day thingy x2)
    So my next C1 will cost roughly 10€ when I'm unlucky. As you usually get around 60-70 pulls per month.

    If you are F2P you are simply not meant to have every character or rather not have every character in high constellations.
    That's just something people have to cope with but it works just fine.
    It's not like Raiden becomes playable at C2, she is already strong at C0 compared to other C0 Characters/5* as well.
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  10. #7710
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  11. #7711
    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    Not even close to 90% of the people spend money on character banners.
    That's not true. A lot of people spend on character banners for c0.

  12. #7712
    All of my 5* are C0 except Baal C1 and Qiqi C1 (sigh), but Hu Tao Eula and Ayaka have R0 signature weapons, i used all 100% crystal bonuses last year.

    My alt account has C1 Zhongli (quite lucky banner as i got 2 Zhong and 0 Yanfei lul) and C1 Diluc.
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    "You can build Kokomi with useless artifacts without need for any crit rolls" jokes on you, now you need godly crit rolls to come out from -100%crit rate.

    "HERE I COME"-laugh in Royal Catalyst

    She is perfect character if only we remove that damned cursed passive.

    1.Kokomi trial, 90% crit damage stats... okay), 3 godly supports that deal more damage than kokomi ...okay)

    2.Rosaria trial, you go solo girl, also F@ck you.
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  14. #7714
    Quote Originally Posted by blackpink View Post
    That's not true. A lot of people spend on character banners for c0.
    a lot of people is somewhere between 1%-100%

  15. #7715
    Some sites already ranked kokomi A tier on a scale from C to SS

    Geez if there's childe banner after i will have 200 rolls to push my hu tao to the stars

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    Quote Originally Posted by cocomen2 View Post
    "You can build Kokomi with useless artifacts without need for any crit rolls" jokes on you, now you need godly crit rolls to come out from -100%crit rate.

    "HERE I COME"-laugh in Royal Catalyst

    She is perfect character if only we remove that damned cursed passive.

    1.Kokomi trial, 90% crit damage stats... okay), 3 godly supports that deal more damage than kokomi ...okay)

    2.Rosaria trial, you go solo girl, also F@ck you.
    It would have been really fun if they put Baal as companion for beidou
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    Quote Originally Posted by cocomen2 View Post
    "You can build Kokomi with useless artifacts without need for any crit rolls" jokes on you, now you need godly crit rolls to come out from -100%crit rate.

    "HERE I COME"-laugh in Royal Catalyst

    She is perfect character if only we remove that damned cursed passive.

    1.Kokomi trial, 90% crit damage stats... okay), 3 godly supports that deal more damage than kokomi ...okay)

    2.Rosaria trial, you go solo girl, also F@ck you.
    Wana hear something funny. In trial you get so much energy, that a weapon proc from Q bugged and made me lose energy...
    This is when the other character stuff was on ground also giving you energy.

    Also story Kokomi is C3 and she comes with a very weird set that increases atk for party. Like they gave up lol.

    Also rip Ayaka:
    Don't sweat the details!!!

  17. #7717
    I have so many spectral husk i could ascend her to lv 250

    Edit: yes baal is sh*t, new record for taishan mansion idd

    Popped zhong shield, baal's e and then Eula's Q, slaughtered the two samachurls during the burst and nearly oneshotted agents with sword explosion..., they were like 10% hp...

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    is Aloy and the other free characters still up? thinking of reinstalling the game just to get them (can't play since laptop can't really handle this game)
    The Alliance gets the Horde's most popular race. The Horde should get the Alliance's most popular race in return. Alteraci Humans for the Horde!

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    Ill be rolling soon. Hoping for at least c2+weapon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yunru View Post
    Also story Kokomi is C3 and she comes with a very weird set that increases atk for party. Like they gave up lol.
    Ye different sets for Trial and story quest,Heart of Depth to be AA user like Childe since all her cons about DAMAGE or Noblesse oblige that in theory don't even works on her....20% burst; Like decide already she DPSer or support with 3* book but NGL when i saw c1 bonus fish deals 30%hp damage i was like WOW cool thing for damage dealer and then oh... she can't crit, so to beat that lying horse they even added:
    While donning the Ceremonial Garment created by Nereid's Ascension, the final Normal Attack in Sangonomiya Kokomi's combo will unleash a swimming fish to deal 30% of her Max HP as Hydro DMG.This DMG is not considered Normal Attack DMG.
    to fuck everyone with Heart of Depth pieces.(or Shimenwa)

    Edit:
    Also very strange difference among Kokomi voices, JapVA sounds 18 years old while EngVA i feel like around 7-9 and goes like "ORT of VOR" cute little ruler. After so many years of OP,I expected it other way around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cocomen2 View Post
    "You can build Kokomi with useless artifacts without need for any crit rolls" jokes on you, now you need godly crit rolls to come out from -100%crit rate.

    I knew that gonna be funny..... all these people saying that "I really like that i don't need to aim for crit on Kokomi"
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