You can now perma mount in the maw

[Vakir]

I thought this is from the wings?

If it is from twisting it will be a moderate challenge then. I would expect most people to be able to knock it out with heroic dungeon gear and a bit of good luck.

Nah, Creeper is the Twisting Corridors capstone. My understanding is it will be tuned as well.

[LostLocket]

Nah, Creeper is the Twisting Corridors capstone.

My mistake then. It won't be super hard to get... I am trying to think of a comparison that fits and I would hazard a guess (at least last time i did torghast) that it will be roughly around the same difficulty as getting gold in wods proving ground.

I could see carries being sold for it but it is easy enough I expect most people to have it early. It feels about right for a reward level then if I am being honest.

[MrLachyG]

is account related or need to unlocked on every toon?

it's a mount so if you do it on one toon you get access to the mount for all toons

[Jazzhands]

I mean I would argue current world quests shouldn't exist at all since they act as nothing but a grind and a speed bump as you mass aoe a area.

I am well aware of the skill level of the average player. I know when you go into lfr you are looking at the more skilled part of the playerbase not the worst of it overall. That said it really is that easy unless they mean the 8th level of endless spires.

MMOs are literally nothing but grinds and speed bumps. They're meant to be time sinks that you put months into. The funny thing about WoW is that it has never been anywhere near as grindy as a lot of other MMOs.

Also Twisting Corridors is, in Blizzards own words, meant as the "Challenge Wing" of Torghast, if it's as challenging as mage towers then your average player may never finish it even with full gear.

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wo...owlands/638371

"Speaking of Twisting Corridors, as we finalize tuning, Twisting Corridors should come into its own as the “Challenge Mode” wing of Torghast, offering eighteen-floor runs at a higher level of difficulty than the rest of Torghast, with cosmetic rewards for clearing certain thresholds."

Of course, calling it challenging means next to nothing, until final tuning we have no idea how hard it will be, but apparently they don't intend it to be easy.

[Unholyground]

They could use this as an opportunity to make some unique mount equipment for that specific mount too that allows you to gain access to restricted areas or shortcuts.

[LostLocket]

MMOs are literally nothing but grinds and speed bumps. They're meant to be time sinks that you put months into. The funny thing about WoW is that it has never been anywhere near as grindy as a lot of other MMOs.

Also Twisting Corridors is, in Blizzards own words, meant as the "Challenge Wing" of Torghast, if it's as challenging as mage towers then your average player may never finish it even with full gear.

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wo...owlands/638371

"Speaking of Twisting Corridors, as we finalize tuning, Twisting Corridors should come into its own as the “Challenge Mode” wing of Torghast, offering eighteen-floor runs at a higher level of difficulty than the rest of Torghast, with cosmetic rewards for clearing certain thresholds."

Of course, calling it challenging means next to nothing, until final tuning we have no idea how hard it will be, but apparently they don't intend it to be easy.

I would argue what made wow successful was that besides classic pvp it wasn't mindlessly grindy but rather had a pretty steady difficulty curve with small cheats here and there ( old crafted items for example) though this is getting off topic.

As for corridors... it isn't ever really "hard" at least not like the mage tower where mechanics matter. Torghasts difficulty comes from the fact your power resets after every while the enemy power level doesn't. It quickly becomes a gear check to see if you can handle mobs while being buffless. Classes like warlocks and hunters that have both a pet and a host of CC to disrupt small packs excel at higher levels since they can reduce the threats they face to one and have powerful kiting tools.

8 runs deep is challenging in heroic dungeon gear and might take the average player to be in heroic raid gear but it is fairly doable... there is challenge in torghast but I am loathed to compare it to the mage tower as I personally believe the mage tower still stands as the best single player experience wow has offered to date.

[MrLachyG]

They could use this as an opportunity to make some unique mount equipment for that specific mount too that allows you to gain access to restricted areas or shortcuts.

that would be cool. maybe something that allows your mount to jump extra high or over a longer distance

[Amariw]

This is nice news, i didn't have strong feelings about maw mounts either way but its because i don't have beta and donnu how it is to navigate it. What i did hear is that its still pretty empty and lacks objectives/good reasons to kill stuff, definitely not timless isle levels of polish and fun. Any news on that front?

[Delever]

This is nice news, i didn't have strong feelings about maw mounts either way but its because i don't have beta and donnu how it is to navigate it. What i did hear is that its still pretty empty and lacks objectives/good reasons to kill stuff, definitely not timless isle levels of polish and fun. Any news on that front?

Well incentives are there now as you can dump your stygia to upgrade existing conduits or acquire conduits you are missing as well as add gem sockets to your gear.
Now whether its a nice zone or not is up to preference I guess. I dont love it but I dont have it either. For how little time you have to spend inside (around half an hour) its fine.

[locketto]

it's a mount so if you do it on one toon you get access to the mount for all toons

Not all mounts works like that, like pvp mounts.

[vashe9]

Quoting a French historian? Left his name in the signature, go read his works and you may understand what it's all about. Let's leave this off-topic at that, can DM me if you have further questions.

It's politics, I thought politics were only for politics channels. You use your signature as rightist propaganda. Why is that allowed ?

[Cerus]

It's politics, I thought politics were only for politics channels. You use your signature as rightist propaganda. Why is that allowed ?

The idea that everyone should earn what they have instead of “more free shit” isn’t propaganda. It’s what America was founded on.

You could have ignored his signature or taken it to DMs. You chose the opposite...twice. Grow up and stop attacking anyone who has differing beliefs.

[Lolites]

i think each layer is only like 6 floors but im probably wrong

6 floors is the one for loot, the one for cosmetics (which should be tied to this) is 18 per layer afaik, so 144 floors in total, though i cant confirm it, i think someone (soul?) mentioned it in video, but he might be wrong aswel

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I bet if you play as a Tank or DD with alot Def CDs you can get very far when you get the best buffs.

honestly, if ifs difficult but doable, rather than timegated or postponed somehow, i think its better aproach

[Inoculate]

Not all mounts works like that, like pvp mounts.

Well, that IS how pvp mounts will work in SL. They are removing that restriction.

[Zaganite]

news like this makes me happy I main a druid and if nothing changes, I can still use my travel form and run like mad through it

[Inoculate]

Oh, cool, now they push players to level hunter first so it would be way easier and faster to get that mount, since it an extreme buff to all other characters.

What are you basing this off of? Any class can clear those wings as they are the introduction to Thorghast, not the hard mode.

[Grimbold21]

Setting aside the nonsense that is not allowing a player to mount there, have we gotten the "why is Blizzard forcing me to do content I don't like to play the game?!" complaints yet?

[Tylanthia]

People got what they wished for and it really does not take that long.

I'm not sure the AQ design is what people wished for. Just let us mount normally. A zone where you can't mount is not fun nor is being forced to use one ugly mount.

[MrLachyG]

Not all mounts works like that, like pvp mounts.

True but this mount doesn’t have those restrictions

[GrinnersGrin]

Quick make a 3 page post about how having the hearthsteed lets you mount in the maw too! Or any of the other bugged mounts they forgot to disable.