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  1. #201
    Quote Originally Posted by Logen Ninefingers View Post
    This message and your previous message is just showing you don't care that you are calling other people's life hell and you don't care how your words affect others...
    So rude...
    Rude? What are you talking about? If you talk about your lifestyle in a forum, be prepared to be criticised. I don't know where you're from, but playing the victim card doesn't really work with Europeans, maybe in the States it does...

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    Quote Originally Posted by keymil View Post
    For me your "way of life" might as well be useless because it won't matter when you die. Being this judgemental of people and so arrogant is the saddest thing here.
    It's fine if you think so, it doesn't matter to me. The real problem is when you get angry due to a stranger's point of view. That only shows a quite fragile personality.

  2. #202
    I really don't envy you guys for those paid leave conditions... Germany sucks in many things, paid leave is not one of them, though.

  3. #203
    Quote Originally Posted by Utrrabbit View Post
    Or you guys can get jobs that dont require you to book days off a year in advances lol.

    My work requires 2 weeks notice if I want to book time off.
    Some of us are more essential than just any meatbag being there lol.
    My nickname is "LDEV", not "idev". (both font clarification and ez bait)

    yall im smh @ ur simplified english

  4. #204
    Quote Originally Posted by LeifErikson View Post
    Rude? What are you talking about? If you talk about your lifestyle in a forum, be prepared to be criticised. I don't know where you're from, but playing the victim card doesn't really work with Europeans, maybe in the States it does...
    It wasn't even my message, I am just surprised by your approach to other people... as are other people, see previous messages...
    Looks like you are also a bit nationalistic ... but no, I am not from the states
    Last edited by Logen Ninefingers; 2020-10-02 at 06:37 PM. Reason: spelling

  5. #205
    I don't worry about it, I took early retirement so i can spend some time while i'm young enough to still enjoy life and able to still do stuff before confined to a wheelchair..

  6. #206
    Why is a Thread like this still open when its headlines' sole purpose is to harass people taking time off for a hobby ^^

  7. #207
    Quote Originally Posted by skynet1990 View Post
    Why is a Thread like this still open when its headlines' sole purpose is to harass people taking time off for a hobby ^^
    Because there's more to it than just the title. Let's read a little bit past the cover shall we?
    Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.

  8. #208
    Quote Originally Posted by skynet1990 View Post
    Why is a Thread like this still open when its headlines' sole purpose is to harass people taking time off for a hobby ^^
    To find out - read the original post. ^^
    My nickname is "LDEV", not "idev". (both font clarification and ez bait)

    yall im smh @ ur simplified english

  9. #209
    I'd say close it. People take off work for games all the time. PTO is to relax off-work, regardless of whatever activity that is. I myself, and people I work with, have taken off for game/console launches many times. People spend time scrapbooking and going to conventions for really far-out hobbies, taking off for a game in today's society is not unusual at all. In fact what I would say is strange is complaining about how other people spend their days off lol.

    I think this started as an indirect complaint about the SL launch delay, that people planned to take those days off work and had them scheduled. I don't have a lot of sympathy for that (very entitled) complaint. It's a month away, there is more than plenty of time to reschedule the PTO if you want, or don't and spend it doing something else on October 26th.

  10. #210
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    Quote Originally Posted by Othraerir View Post
    I used to take my holidays for the World Cup/Euro Champs
    what a waste of time

  11. #211
    I've taken vacation to play games. I've taken vacation to rest. I rarely go abroad but it's my holiday days and I'll damn well spend them how I want.
    RETH

  12. #212
    Quote Originally Posted by Logen Ninefingers View Post
    It wasn't even my message, I am just surprised by your approach to other people... as are other people, see previous messages...
    Looks like you are also a bit nationalistic ... but no, I am not from the states
    I love your argumentum ad populum. Honestly, I'm surprised by your snowflake behaviour. "YOU'RE RUDE BECAUSE YOU GAVE YOUR OPINION! WHAT A NASTY PERSON YOU ARE!!".

    Nationalistic? Oh my god... Yeah, I stick my country flag in my garden to show how much I love it, and I'm proud of forcing kids to sing our national anthem every morning looking at a piece of cloth. Oh wait, sorry, that's not my country (thankfully)... My mistake.

  13. #213
    Quote Originally Posted by Paula Deen View Post
    Been seeing this echoed across the official forums, MMOC, and Wowhead. Let me put some perspective to this one.

    To start, I absolutely am okay with Blizzard choosing to delay Shadowlands, it was evident it was lacking some polish. Less straightforward is the reason for choosing October 1st, which some could argue shows they are still more focused on the Shareholder's than players. However, I am not here to give my opinion on either topic.

    I am posting because I have seen a variation of the thread title posted throughout the internet in response to people rather upset they cannot get days they scheduled off back. My career changed drastically a year ago into a field I never thought I would be in. This field schedules days off a full year in advanced. You bid based off seniority amongst your coworkers. You can also take individual days in the middle of a year if you have the PTO saved for them and the day has not been bid on.

    For Shadowlands I originally was quite lucky. The day after launch was a day off. However, I quickly went to bid on the following 3 days just to secure some extra time. I got one. I had to work hard to secure that day. I have the luxury of being in a position where my PTO is 14 hours granted per month that carries over per month.

    People like me have no issue with this schedule change. I can go schedule more days off to relax and do what helps keep me less stressed when the new date is announced. Someone who is much less privileged would not be so lucky. For some people to even be granted a single day off, even in the Western World, is extremely rare. And to have to fight hard for that day and have them change it, in some peoples' opinions, at the last minute, really sours their mood.

    TL;DR - Not everyone uses PTO for actual vacations. I use mine for errands and destressing. So instead of lambasting people for being upset they lost valuable time off work for the release, maybe, instead, you should focus looking at a bigger picture to their situation.

    Thanks.


    I understand why it's frustrating for people to lose their vacation days because of the delay. But too many of these people are mad at Blizzard and blaming them.

    The reality is, you should be mad at an economy that has most companies that are stingy with days off, and leaves employees with so little free time that they feel the need to schedule days off a month to a year in an advance JUST to be able to enjoy their hobby.

    This is wrong, and it's a shame that many people don't see this as the core problem.

  14. #214
    Quote Originally Posted by LeifErikson View Post
    "YOU'RE RUDE BECAUSE YOU GAVE YOUR OPINION! WHAT A NASTY PERSON YOU ARE!!".
    There is a difference between
    1) I prefer to read a book but I do respect your opinion
    2) I prefer to read a book, I would never take time of for games...
    3) YOUR LIFE IS HELL HOW CAN YOU LIVE WITH YOURSELF
    I hope I don't need to point out which approach you are taking...

  15. #215
    I think I've only booked holidays for games once in my life, but most vacations I've booked have been just to get away from work for a while. It's as legitimate as booking time to go on a vacation to another country, and no one should feel it's OK to belittle others who book time off.

    Quote Originally Posted by Utrrabbit View Post
    Or you guys can get jobs that dont require you to book days off a year in advances lol.

    My work requires 2 weeks notice if I want to book time off.
    "Just get a better job" is a shit rhetoric.

    Marketable skills. Location. Work-life requirements. Commuting limits.

    These are just some of the things that stop people from moving out of shit, low-skill jobs, and getting away from employers that barely even consider them entitled to time away from work. If you ain't got marketable skills, you're stuck. If you don't want to move away from friends and family, you're stuck. If you have work-life commitments such as kids, you're probably stuck. If you don't want to lose 3 hours a day commuting, you're stuck.

    That's also assuming the jobs are actually out there if you do have marketable skills. Beggars can't be choosers, but that doesn't mean those folks should be condemned to ridiculous conditions like not being able to take their legally entitled holiday time off because some big corporate entity "can't manage it because they just can't get people to cover", even though it's a low skill job that is done by hundreds of other people in the same building every day.

  16. #216
    Quote Originally Posted by Redzonetode View Post
    I understand why it's frustrating for people to lose their vacation days because of the delay. But too many of these people are mad at Blizzard and blaming them.

    The reality is, you should be mad at an economy that has most companies that are stingy with days off, and leaves employees with so little free time that they feel the need to schedule days off a month to a year in an advance JUST to be able to enjoy their hobby.

    This is wrong, and it's a shame that many people don't see this as the core problem.
    why not both?

  17. #217
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    Eh. I get why people do this but the bitching at Blizzard on the official forums is a bit pathetic. Some venting, sure. But anyone who takes time off not just to play a video game but to play it the day it comes out has to realize there's always risk there. The servers might suck. There might be bugs. etc.

    "They could have told us sooner" is a little silly too. They likely knew it was a possibility two weeks ago, but they weren't going to push the date 3 months ago. If you had to schedule PTO months ago it wouldn't have mattered whether they told you on October 1st or September 1st. If you just scheduled it... reschedule. If you can't... that sucks, but you took a gamble and lost.

  18. #218
    Quote Originally Posted by Logen Ninefingers View Post
    There is a difference between
    1) I prefer to read a book but I do respect your opinion
    2) I prefer to read a book, I would never take time of for games...
    3) YOUR LIFE IS HELL HOW CAN YOU LIVE WITH YOURSELF
    I hope I don't need to point out which approach you are taking...
    You're twisting my words, and it's so funny. Anyway, I find kind of weird that you're trying to tell me how to give my opinion. Life is harsh, boy. Not everybody is gonna tell you things throwing flowers at your feet. You're just angry and you're whining because somebody said that he doesn't like that kind of life. Because the fact is that what I said, without caps, is that that kind of lifestyle, if proposed, it'd be hell to me. That's all, mate. But as I said before, you're just showing how fragile your personality is, almost like a snowflake.

    Calm down, geezer. It's just a different point of view, get over it.
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  19. #219
    Days off to play a video game is a little dumb in my opinion, I would definitely laugh at them (internally), just as days off to watch soccer or any sport at all (unless you're the one actually playing them).
    But well... people are free to waste their time the way that pleases them more, it's not like it affects me somehow.

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    I feel like I should be able to sympathize, but I kinda can't. Video games have been my passion since 93 and yet I've never allocated time-off just for them. When MGSV was released I got it in the midnight launch and played till 5am, but still went to work few hours later, after squeezing some z's for an hour or two. Really, the games can wait. You will still have the booked time off to spend for other things and WoW will still be there to play after you've finished work for the day.
    Now you see it. Now you don't.

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