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  1. #201
    Quote Originally Posted by sunnycutie View Post
    I never said Blizzard doesn't want these NPCs dead. I said several times that it's about them not being available for several hours.

    Then make them change after an hour. You are dodging the most basic point - that PvP and attacking cities is part of the game and has always been allowed. It's not like anyone is abusing game mechanics. It's not like there is any form of warning about this. It's not like Blizzard can't make that type of play impossible with a simple fix. Instead they say Go! PvP! PvP Achievements! Raid Cities! Oh, not like that, BAN.


    It's absolutely pathetic.

  2. #202
    Did the GM really act like that? They used to be nice and reasonable people once, I guess that went out the window somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twdft View Post
    Most hordies don't even know that. Whenever some rogue does their Legion quest and kills all my auctioneers I just /shrug and move to the other one. Never seen the second AH camped.
    In all of my time I've spent playing alliance, I've never seen the second one camped before either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asrialol View Post
    I think it's pretty clear they're trying to milk the situation for exposure. Like asking any content creators out there if they want screenshots.. lmao.
    oh yeah that was obvious from the start, especially when they posted 3 of their videos, its very obviously self advertisement.

  5. #205
    Thank you Milan for that post, does make me think why wPvP is enabled on RP Servers if people get salty about being invaded. Personally I wouldn't class killing a player whos flagged for PvP as "Disruptive Gameplay" - even if that player was involved in RP. The PvP flag surely indicates he/she is willing to stop RPing to fight? **Shrugs**

    FelPlague keeps mentioning these secret rules for RP Realms, which doesn't quite make sense for me. As i've watched your videos for a while and its weird that for the 2 years you've actively raided Argent Dawn, you were never banned until now? I remember being on my Dwarf and you locked down the city for hours on end, but it was funny to watch.

    Personally if there is a rule that states "Dont disrupt RP" i totally get it. But if that player has PVP enabled, then that should in theory void that rule. As they're actively searching for a fight, hence the PVP Toggle Option.
    If the player is killed then the 'killer' continues to linger about and minge, sure, that RP interference but if they're killed mid RP with Warmode/PVP Flag on, thats their own fault so suck it up.

    Also just made an account so i could comment, didn't realise this area was so grey lol. Need to be re-evaluated for sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatPandaZ View Post
    Then make them change after an hour. You are dodging the most basic point - that PvP and attacking cities is part of the game and has always been allowed. It's not like anyone is abusing game mechanics. It's not like there is any form of warning about this. It's not like Blizzard can't make that type of play impossible with a simple fix. Instead they say Go! PvP! PvP Achievements! Raid Cities! Oh, not like that, BAN.


    It's absolutely pathetic.
    I think you fail to realize.

    Even if they made all the npcs invincible

    Op's guild still would have been banned.

    it was because they were causing a ruckus in stormwind for 2 hours.
    not cause they were killing NPC's



    I very much think people fail to realize that if 2 people are talking in /say its not just an issue if 1 dies, its an issue if 50 horde surround them and start spamming emotes.

    People fail to realize that disrupting Rp is not just "kill a rper" its ruining the experiance, its messing around them.


    Imagine if you were trying to take a photo of your family.
    Yes it would be bad if someone stabbed your mother in the photo, you would call the cops.

    But if the person refused to get out of the camera shot, and kept following you around and standing in front of the camera, that would also be a problem wouldn't it?

    Disrupting Rp is not just killing players, its also being an annoyance and ruining their experience.
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  7. #207
    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    not even close to true.
    do i need otl ink the blue post from a Gm and from a Cm again?
    Please enlighten me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerovar View Post
    Please enlighten me.


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    "Disrupting roleplaying events through the use of verbal, physical, or visual harrassment".
    But how does this rule work when a player enlists themselves into PvP whilst Roleplaying? I think that is the unanswered question and this major grey area thats been missed by blizzard. Personally, as I said before, PvP imo would overwrite the rule as you're committing yourself ready to attack/or be attacked by a member of the opposing faction. As long as they kill you and move on and aren't getting involved in the 'RP' you were in before you died because you flagged yourself. That's your own fault + Don't see it as a break of this hidden rule?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerovar View Post

    Are you honestly trying to tell me that a new player who doesn't know how to get to IF/Darnassus etc. somehow desperately needs to access the auction house? Give me a fucking break.
    Do you not remember visiting the auction house at low levels to get better gear? I definitely did.

    Also, "desparately" doesn't factor in. You either want to access it or you don't. If you want to and can't, then that's a problem -- end of story.
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  11. #211
    Quote Originally Posted by Mendzia View Post
    Wait... how can you be flagged as PvP target in your main city with WM OFF? That does not make any sense...
    I did not play retail since this new system was introduced but in earlier WoW times you become 'untouchable' after 5min (or 10min, not sure) being in the your fraction area or sanctuary even on PvP server.
    If you have just gotten out of PvP or switched WM off, youll be flagged for 5 minutes. Still, killing anything goes in WM since their PvP rules, at least what they where, state that a PvP problem has a PvP solution.
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    Why the hell would you wait till after you did this to confirm the mortality rate of such action?

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    As someone on Alliance Argent Dawn, since the OP won't tell you the full story, lets explain exactly what this 'amazing rp pvp guild' does:

    For over a year this guild would 'raid Stormwind' on random days by camping the Mage tower with a ton of alts, many of whom have variations of the word 'Abomination' with a clear intent to completely disregard the rp server naming rules by using special characters. Their 'pvp' usually consists of camping one of 3 locations: the mage tower portals, the cathedral crypts, or the slaughtered lamb.

    While they camp the mage tower, they sit on the spot killing people who spawn in and cause a metric fuck ton of lag (which already exists in Stormwind at normal times). Their usual tactic is to have mages who sit at the back and spam Stoneard portals so that when an Alliance raid is put together to stomp them (which happens all the time) they pussy out and escape. Inside the mage tower, they camp the main area transport portal so that those who fight back have to deal with the lag and loading in for when they move from the tower to the portal area.

    The Scarlet Scourge is not a PvP guild, it's sole purpose is to grief the mage tower, and when they get shit on by the Alliance defense raids they quite quickly leave.
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  13. #213
    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post

    Yeah, this doesn't really support your argument. They weren't intentionally disrupting roleplaying events. They were playing the game in a way that is promoted and supported by Blizzard (you get an achievement for killing faction leaders after all). If you think a guild killing NPCs in Stormwind is "disrupting roleplaying events" then so is everyone running around on an obnoxious mount while roleplayers are nearby. You cannot sensibly draw the line here based on the feelings of some roleplayers. You're not making any sense at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Belloc View Post
    Do you not remember visiting the auction house at low levels to get better gear? I definitely did.

    Also, "desparately" doesn't factor in. You either want to access it or you don't. If you want to and can't, then that's a problem -- end of story.
    Yeah, I do. Back in classic when it actually had benefits for your leveling. Nowadays you simply don't need to so it's a really dumb point.

  14. #214
    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post

    Small off-topic... just to say that Ythisens was such good CM with amazing connection to community...
    That is probably one of his last responses on reddit as Blizzard employee...

  15. #215
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    It's good you've spoken about them, but this doesn't show they actually break any rules? Its not against ToS to camp the Mage Tower, as its accessible to the opposing faction. (Blizzards own development). I also saw this quoted "We would not find actions, such as taking over a flight point or quest hub, to be actionable offenses. Players have the option of disabling War Mode or organizing a counter attack with their own faction to retake the area."
    So then again, as much as it's annoying to have the mage tower taken over, don't see anything wrong with what they're doing lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxieChan View Post
    "Disrupting roleplaying events through the use of verbal, physical, or visual harrassment".
    But how does this rule work when a player enlists themselves into PvP whilst Roleplaying? I think that is the unanswered question and this major grey area thats been missed by blizzard. Personally, as I said before, PvP imo would overwrite the rule as you're committing yourself ready to attack/or be attacked by a member of the opposing faction. As long as they kill you and move on and aren't getting involved in the 'RP' you were in before you died because you flagged yourself. That's your own fault + Don't see it as a break of this hidden rule?
    "How does this work when a player enlists themselves into pvp"

    they didnt, stormwind is not PVP locked, if you go to stormwind you will see people who are both warmode on and warmode off, and if you run around them killing everything it ruins their rp experiance, cause they little tavern talk with all their friends turns into them sitting on a table while a raid fights ontop of them.

    PVP does not overwrite the rule, because you are on an RP realm.

  17. #217
    Felplague. (Annoying I can't reply with quotes xD)
    Warmode on or Warmode off, what does it matter? If you're enlisted to PvP (Which you will have to be to be entitled to die by them) then that would surely overall your priority to RP, until you switch it off. Sure you can be RPing with it on, but if you're attacked. That's on you?

    "PVP does not overwrite the rule, because you are on an RP realm." Then why is PvP enabled and "For the Alliance/Horde" achievements exist on RP Realms? so many questions lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxieChan View Post
    Felplague. (Annoying I can't reply with quotes xD)
    Warmode on or Warmode off, what does it matter? If you're enlisted to PvP (Which you will have to be to be entitled to die by them) then that would surely overall your priority to RP, until you switch it off. Sure you can be RPing with it on, but if you're attacked. That's on you?

    "PVP does not overwrite the rule, because you are on an RP realm." Then why is PvP enabled and "For the Alliance/Horde" achievements exist on RP Realms? so many questions lol
    Again, getting killed is not the only way to disrupt RP.

    As i said earlier, you can get an entire raid group run to an event and spam in chat and use all the toys you can, you will still get banned even though you never attacked them.


    disrupting RP is by acting against RP in RP hubs with the intent to disrupt, which spending 2 hours in the city killing people does.


    You could be banned for disrupting RP, literally being on the same faction. because disrupting Rp is not a "pvp only" thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxieChan View Post
    Lollis
    It's good you've spoken about them, but this doesn't show they actually break any rules? Its not against ToS to camp the Mage Tower, as its accessible to the opposing faction. (Blizzards own development). I also saw this quoted "We would not find actions, such as taking over a flight point or quest hub, to be actionable offenses. Players have the option of disabling War Mode or organizing a counter attack with their own faction to retake the area."
    So then again, as much as it's annoying to have the mage tower taken over, don't see anything wrong with what they're doing lol
    The only rule they are really breaking is the naming one; although 'Abomination' on its own isn't really against the tos, using symbol variations to name multiple toons the same thing is clearly meant as a non-rp naming process.

    The Scarlet Scourge are known shitters. Each and every time the Alliance fights back, these amazing pvpers use their Stoneard portals to escape and usually leave until another day.
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  20. #220
    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    "How does this work when a player enlists themselves into pvp"

    they didnt, stormwind is not PVP locked, if you go to stormwind you will see people who are both warmode on and warmode off, and if you run around them killing everything it ruins their rp experiance, cause they little tavern talk with all their friends turns into them sitting on a table while a raid fights ontop of them.

    PVP does not overwrite the rule, because you are on an RP realm.
    Why have PvP on RP realms if you are not allowed to do PvP?

    What you are saying is complete nonsense. Collect a raid group and kill Anduin in SW is not disruptive gameplay, even if they stayed there for 2 hours. Farming npc and quest giver for days straight is something else tho.

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