I didn't play during MoP, so that explains why i was unaware of that attempt, kinda happy that they give it another shot but yeah the apparant randomness of it is just striking.
Even just from a communication standpoint you'd want people to be able to develop some kind of feeling for what abilities will do, so the random inconsistency just seems... bad.
Last edited by loras; 2020-10-12 at 06:22 AM.
This is a signature of an ailing giant, boundless in pride, wit and strength.
Yet also as humble as health and humor permit.
Furthermore, I consider that Carthage Slam must be destroyed.
Braindead melee mongoloids were dominating M+ scene whole BfA (Fire mages and BM hunters in 8.3 don't count, corruption vendor broke the game completely) and something had to be done. Either giving casters fast burst AoE as well, but for some reason absolutely moronic "homogenization bad" is everywhere, sooo...enjoy your target caps then.
They are dictating how we will play which is horse shit. If I want to attack 50 mobs, I should be able to. What will happen in 40v40 battlegrounds? What a fucking joke man.
what a stupid concept seriously, you see your aoe, swing whatever go throught a mob who is over cap the change and he feel nothing
blizzard are just stupid monkeys at this point who dont care about one single thing like logic gameplay, at least make them take less dmg or something, but visually, a aoe spell who touch a mob should do dmg lol
I still don't think a hard AoE cap is the right direction. Split the damage out among the targets hit if you have to do something, it's basically how abilities worked since patch 2.2 with a 10 target softcap that was increased to 20 in 5.2, and this remained unchanged up until Legion, at least as far as I'm aware. Doing legacy dungeons with any class that doesn't have an ability without a hard AoE cap is gonna be severely hindered by this change.
Yet another garbage change.. and really 5 targets on divine storm LOL cucked
If done right, this change could have been good. If classes with an AoE cap deal damage on 5 targets, with uncapped classes needing 10 targets to equal said damage, then it would be good.
But this is not the case. It's not anywhere NEAR the case.
First, it's essentially uneven across range and melee - Every SINGLE melee is now capped to a few targets, with some exceptions. However, for range, Hunters are capped, Frost Mages have Frozen Orb capped, Destro Locks have Felstorm capped. That's it. Basically every single caster has uncapped AoE.
Following this up is the damage difference - Casters are currently just as effective at fighting 5-8 targets as melee are. But as soon as you add that 9th target, casters begin to pull ahead until they hit the final AoE cap of 20 targets (At which point damage dealt is split between every new target added).
Then there is the mechanical difficulty - In large groups, melee are always at risk of being gibbed by whatever mechanics the mobs have. Not only do you have significant visual clutter going on, but there are so many AoEs in the game based in a short distance around the mob that you have to get out of or you just die, and when you have 4-5 of those mobs in a large part of 20+ mobs, melee are at significant risk of just dying.
The funny thing is that in raiding this is essentially a change that will only matter on maybe 3-5 bosses the entire expansion.
Overall this just helps to indicate how far removed the Blizzard development team is, not only from their playerbase, but from their understanding of the actual game itself.
What's even worse is that the AoE cap is only applied to 3 of the tanking classes. And even then, it's only brutally applied to Prot (Who won't be able to do M+ at high lvls because of this change), decently applied to Vengeance (While Vengeance has other AoE tools, Soul Cleave is still a significan portion atm), and just barely applied to Blood (Predominately Bone Storm picks - Not that it matters).
So, yea - Hope all the tanks like BrM and Guardian, because that's likely all you'll be able to play in high-end M+ next expansion!
Last edited by Raugnaut; 2020-10-12 at 06:54 AM.
What I’m mainly curious about is numbers tuning. If Blizzard is trying to make things more equal and balanced with capping AoE targets are they going to actually adjust numbers so a DH does roughly the same amount of damage from an Eyebeam window that a Hunter who spams MS with Beast cleave will do?
You guys realize in that most scenarios this will be a damage increase? Damage modifiers have gone up alot(100%)in some cases. The only time it's less damage is in those few instances where a raid boss has a crap ton of low hp adds that die in <5-10 seconds anyways. Overall whenever you're switching to AoE rotations of 5+ targets you will be doing more damage. Chill
So they nerfed aoe to rebalance m+ but noone will farm m+ now that the rewards are poopy?
It feels like Ion's design philosophy is "how can we make the gaming experience more miserable and restricted"
When a whole expansion's main theme is "how we want/let you to play the game" there needs to be changes.
They literally suck out the fun and interesting ways of the game
It’s just such a typical Blizzard solution to a problem. Imagine if Blizzard was a personal trainer:
- Problem: Person being overweight and wants to get more fit.
- Blizzard solution: Put shit in their food so they eat less.
Blizzards solutions somehow always end up making the game less fun.