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  1. #341
    Quote Originally Posted by rrayy View Post
    THey can disagree with it, but it doesn't matter. Blizzard said it was player housing. That is what it was. I mean, if you order a hamburger at McDonalds, you calling it a hot dog doesn't make it a hot dog. It's still a hamburger because that is what McDonalds said it was..
    If McDonalds sold me a hotdog, it's a hotdog even if they called it a hamburger.

    Can't believe my eyes reading this thread, you people really comparing garrisons to actual player housing?

    Player housing should be a totally new system just like pet battles, you could go to new/old content and farm some ragnaros round tables or something. Blizzard can also capitalize on this and introduce some exclusive items in the in-game store if they wanted.
    Hell they can even introduce a new crafting profession, get 40x wool, 5 cobalt ores and some material from Molten Core, use your new profession and there you go, your own ragnaros round table that you really wanted, and fit it where ever you like in your own house.

    >But people will always afk in their houses now!
    This didn't really happen in other mmos with playing housing tho.

    >This will only please the rp community!
    Not really, none of the guys I know rp, but we all enjoyed customizing our houses in every mmo that we played that had one. You can even have some specific decorations drop/reward for high level play such as mythic bosses/high m+ keys/high rating in bgs and arena. But let's say that it will only benefit rp players, what's the problem?

    >They don't have the resources!
    Now we're making excuses for Blizzard? it's up to them to manage their resources, not us.
    We've had battlepets and now battlepet dungeons, we didn't lose a raid tier in exchange.
    And I'll take player housing/battlepets a million times over whatever bullshit system(s!) they're developing for Slands/next expansion.
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  2. #342
    Quote Originally Posted by Synical123 View Post
    Ngl this sounds pretty much like what garrisons did. Honestly the difference being that instead of building things like enchanting buildings and statues from your achievements, you would want to build robots and creatures instead lol. And somehow that makes garrisons not even close to what you think housing should be... dude wow just isn’t the game for it.
    Lol what? Being creative and creating buildings/items/statues/whatever isn't even remotely close to what garrisons did. Comparing garrisons to housing is like you claiming your an artist because you hung a painting on your wall.

  3. #343
    Quote Originally Posted by qwerty123456 View Post
    Lol what? Being creative and creating buildings/items/statues/whatever isn't even remotely close to what garrisons did. Comparing garrisons to housing is like you claiming your an artist because you hung a painting on your wall.
    First of all garrisons are housing, whether you want to admit it or not. You disliking them doesn’t instantly mean they aren’t housing.

    Secondly, let’s say they do make housing. With this whole complicated system of you actually creating your own buildings etc. this will take a TON of resources away from creating actual content, as well as the best case scenario actually being people like the housing and never leave it and we get a wod 2.0 where the world becomes literally barren as everyone qs from their houses.

    It’s a terrible idea at best.

  4. #344
    "I want the devs to put my teenage girl fantasies in their high fantasy combat game"

    Never gonna understand this one.

    Edit: Inb4 "You dont understand my friends need to see my interior decoration!"

  5. #345
    The game has no need for player housing, and would only serve to split the playerbase even more, further destroying the little sense of 'world' we have left, and our hubs would be deserted (as they were on WoD with garrisons).

    I actually feel like it would be a waste of development and resources. I like it on other games, especially how it was in Wildstar, but i don't think it would be beneficial for WoW atm.
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  6. #346
    Quote Originally Posted by hulkgor View Post
    The game has no need for player housing, and would only serve to split the playerbase even more, further destroying the little sense of 'world' we have left, and our hubs would be deserted (as they were on WoD with garrisons).

    I actually feel like it would be a waste of development and resources. I like it on other games, especially how it was in Wildstar, but i don't think it would be beneficial for WoW atm.
    I see where you are coming from, but all the devs would have to do is take what Garrisons did that caused hubs to be dead and fix that. Would take some time, but they need to make it so you're not just sitting in your house all the time. On ESO, housing is a big part of the game, yet no one just sits in their house doing nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by qwerty123456 View Post
    Lol what? Being creative and creating buildings/items/statues/whatever isn't even remotely close to what garrisons did. Comparing garrisons to housing is like you claiming your an artist because you hung a painting on your wall.
    Thats literally what you did in garrison tho...
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    Crabs have been removed from the game... because if I see another one I’m just going to totally lose it. *sobbing* I’m sorry, I just can’t right now... I just... OK just give me a minute, I’ll be OK..

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrollHunter3000 View Post
    Not really lmao, they don't even have a million active subs. They'll go free to play soon I'm sure.
    They still charge a sub for FFXI yeah that ain’t happening

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolenn View Post
    I'd rather the end of Shadowlands be the end of the faction war.
    Oh gods yes...this would fix sooo many issues and open up new story options as well

  9. #349
    Quote Originally Posted by Synical123 View Post
    First of all garrisons are housing, whether you want to admit it or not. You disliking them doesn’t instantly mean they aren’t housing.

    Secondly, let’s say they do make housing. With this whole complicated system of you actually creating your own buildings etc. this will take a TON of resources away from creating actual content, as well as the best case scenario actually being people like the housing and never leave it and we get a wod 2.0 where the world becomes literally barren as everyone qs from their houses.

    It’s a terrible idea at best.
    It's a terrible idea that Eso makes millions off of? ok lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nnyco View Post
    Thats literally what you did in garrison tho...
    What did you create in garrisons? you slotted useful buildings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwerty123456 View Post
    Anyone else think that after we defeat the jailer and save the Shadowlands that it would be the perfect time to implement a player housing system? What better way to reward the saviors of all reality then to let them create their own covenant/afterlife?
    no, no, no.....this is not a game for housing systems....I bet there has been hundreds of threads about this stupid idea. not gonna happen!

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwerty123456 View Post
    It's a terrible idea that Eso makes millions off of? ok lol.


    What did you create in garrisons? you slotted useful buildings.
    We made buildings, statues, items and whatever in our garrison.
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    Crabs have been removed from the game... because if I see another one I’m just going to totally lose it. *sobbing* I’m sorry, I just can’t right now... I just... OK just give me a minute, I’ll be OK..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synical123 View Post
    First of all garrisons are housing, whether you want to admit it or not. You disliking them doesn’t instantly mean they aren’t housing.

    Secondly, let’s say they do make housing. With this whole complicated system of you actually creating your own buildings etc. this will take a TON of resources away from creating actual content, as well as the best case scenario actually being people like the housing and never leave it and we get a wod 2.0 where the world becomes literally barren as everyone qs from their houses.

    It’s a terrible idea at best.
    People build that stuff out if furniture...

    Other games like ffxiv aren’t that in depth but you do get to choose the say furniture, wallpaper and decorations on top of music.

    And you are comparing buildings that all look alike to true chstlmization where you could say have a gnomosh teleported next to a ne bed with a human cub board all in a dwarven style home..maybe a scaled down onyxias head or a few legendaries/weapons on display on your wall

    That is what we’re talking about not a quest hub like garrisons

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahamington View Post
    I see where you are coming from, but all the devs would have to do is take what Garrisons did that caused hubs to be dead and fix that. Would take some time, but they need to make it so you're not just sitting in your house all the time. On ESO, housing is a big part of the game, yet no one just sits in their house doing nothing.
    Duck just remove the mining, herbalism, and crafting parts alongside quests bam done..replace with full customization perfection

  13. #353
    Quote Originally Posted by qwerty123456 View Post
    It's a terrible idea that Eso makes millions off of? ok lol.


    What did you create in garrisons? you slotted useful buildings.
    You really don't understand how certain systems work for one game but don't in another... that thought just never passed your mind once huh? Like I said before, best case scenario, it ends up decent and makes people stay in their houses and q from the JUST like what happened in wod and the expansion sucks. The reason people hated garrisons wasn't because of how sloppy or how much they could have made them better, it was the effect they had on the game. Which is exactly what would happen with your little scenario.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nnyco View Post
    Thats literally what you did in garrison tho...
    I think maybe you’ve just never seen/played a game with player housing which leads to this idea garrisons were even close to it

  15. #355
    I really don't want another Garrison.

    Another class hall though, specifically for player made guilds..... That sounds less lonely, and I'm listening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nnyco View Post
    We made buildings, statues, items and whatever in our garrison.
    Heh in pre defined areas/slots in pre defined ways not free form or a way to express yourself at all..hell you could not even change what kind of racial design you wanted(say make it dwarf themed with stone bunkers and buildings based on dun Motörhead’s/if or NE with a focus on trees/nature or Tauren with totems and other Tauren things) now THAT would have helped a lot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnaught View Post
    I really don't want another Garrison.

    Another class hall though, specifically for player made guilds..... That sounds less lonely, and I'm listening.
    Trust me nobody wants garrisons..most of all housing fans

  17. #357
    Everyone calling garrisons player housing has absolutely never played an MMO with actual player housing. Blizzard called it housing even though they knew it wasn't. But they used that terminology and people ate it up that didn't know better. Every single player that DID know better, said it wasn't housing and still says it wasn't housing. Placing down buildings in specific spots without ANY proper customization is not player housing. It's positively ridiculous to say it is.

    Wildstar managed to have INCREDIBLE player housing and added buildings and decorations you could find anywhere in pve and some in pvp. you were able to 100% build your plot and players made some incredible stuff. Blizzard has far more money than Carbine did but somehow they can't accomplish the same things? Bull shit. It's not a matter of man power or that we'd "lose a raid tier". Blizzard is just fucking lazy. WoD, BfA, and soon Shadowlands are 100% proof that Blizzard has the mentality of "If we just slap a coat of paint on old systems, we can keep players forever." Thankfully, people are finally starting to wise up to this.

  18. #358
    Quote Originally Posted by Nnyco View Post
    We made buildings, statues, items and whatever in our garrison.
    You placed a few buildings. There was no creativity to it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Synical123 View Post
    You really don't understand how certain systems work for one game but don't in another... that thought just never passed your mind once huh? Like I said before, best case scenario, it ends up decent and makes people stay in their houses and q from the JUST like what happened in wod and the expansion sucks. The reason people hated garrisons wasn't because of how sloppy or how much they could have made them better, it was the effect they had on the game. Which is exactly what would happen with your little scenario.
    Nearly every modern mmo has housing. And wow has phasing to make cities feel fuller. Actual housing would get people farming old raids and shit for items. And lol that people hated garrisons because it made cities feel empty people didnt like them because they were mandatory and all your gathering mats in one spot.

  19. #359
    Quote Originally Posted by Synical123 View Post
    You really don't understand how certain systems work for one game but don't in another... that thought just never passed your mind once huh? Like I said before, best case scenario, it ends up decent and makes people stay in their houses and q from the JUST like what happened in wod and the expansion sucks. The reason people hated garrisons wasn't because of how sloppy or how much they could have made them better, it was the effect they had on the game. Which is exactly what would happen with your little scenario.
    All Blizzard needs to do is NOT adds things to the player housing that would make it feel 100% required to visit every day. No mission table and no resource gathering. Just cosmetics like LITERALLY EVERY OTHER MMO WITH HOUSING. They wouldn't even need to change anything across the expansions. Just add more cosmetic things that you can find in future expansions. But as I've said, Blizzard is fucking lazy.

  20. #360
    Yes let our characters chill for an expansion and go on some normal adventures.

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