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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    The rich pay more in total taxes in one year than you will ever earn in your long jealous life.
    Cool, they also extract several orders of magnitude more value from the system by virtue of their wealth than I do simply because my business and family empires aren't entirely contingent on the social structures within which they have been nurtured.

    Also:

    Quote Originally Posted by draynay View Post
    I'm pretty sure I've paid more than $750.
    See above, lul.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    Biden plan to tax them 62% just ensures they'll vote trump n help his campaign.
    62% of what, exactly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    The rich pay more in total taxes in one year than you will ever earn in your long jealous life.
    Imagine saying this and not realizing you're explaining why the American economy is deeply broken and needs higher tax rates for the wealthy, if not far deeper reforms to even better ameliorate wealth inequality.

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    I am once again asking you to soak the rich.
    I had become too accustomed to the pseudo-Left new style, whereby if your opponent thought he had identified your lowest possible motive, he was quite certain that he had isolated the only real one. This vulgar method, which is now the norm and the standard in much non-Left journalism as well, is designed to have the effect of making any noisy moron into a master analyst.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    Ur blaming mcconell for democratic run cities n states, lol? No 3 trillion package would have been suggested by democrats had they been in the driver's seat. This is just filibuster to prevent a reasonable number that won't destroy the economy to bring heat on the election.

    What a dangerous stupid game

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    The rich pay more in total taxes in one year than you will ever earn in your long jealous life.

    Biden plan to tax them 62% just ensures they'll vote trump n help his campaign.
    Not according to Trump's tax returns.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    Ur blaming mcconell for democratic run cities n states, lol? No 3 trillion package would have been suggested by democrats had they been in the driver's seat. This is just filibuster to prevent a reasonable number that won't destroy the economy to bring heat on the election.
    The rich pay more in total taxes in one year than you will ever earn in your long jealous life.

    Biden plan to tax them 62% just ensures they'll vote trump n help his campaign.
    Some of these democratic cities Trump bitches about, get back less than 50% of their federal taxes and are the largest economies in the world. You claim their failing to bitch about a tax rate, that a billionaire who has had the “jealous” American public and even China bail him out, made up because he has nothing, but enriching him self. So... who exactly is jealous?
    As above, so below.
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    China bailed out Obama, remember?

    Isn't California on fire? Got money but acts like a 3rd world country, SAD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    China bailed out Obama, remember?

    Isn't California on fire? Got money but acts like a 3rd world country, SAD.
    I like presidents who don't have a secret chinese bank account.
    Americans are the Chinese of the west. The main reason people tolerate them is because they are too big to ignore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Imagine saying this and not realizing you're explaining why the American economy is deeply broken and needs higher tax rates for the wealthy, if not far deeper reforms to even better ameliorate wealth inequality.
    A rich person paying more in taxes than someone making less isn't the issue, it's the middle class n worker class that together have the means to have a well functioning 1st world country, instead with tooth n nail they want to move up n think high taxes will cost them money once they get rich too...

    Their motto is "get rich or die trying" literally...
    The middle class comitted suicide n instead lets blame the ones that managed to get ahead doesn't adress the underlying issue, the american dream is 100% about self interest at any cost, u can't have a functioning country by selfish people who are a bunch of libertarians masquerading as democrats n republicans.

    American ideals are those people had that tore old empires apart. America is in terminal decline n they argue which way they should steer to the bottom.
    So many that lost on their dream now masquerading as leftists while arguing that their right-wing party cares about them..

    It's a lost cause, like looking at the decline of an alcoholic, just shrug n move past.

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    Ive been thinking about this issue for a while and isnt this the result of lockdown measures???

    I deeply despise McConnell as any decent human being should but the causation here is pretty obvious and its something you can see around the world

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    China bailed out Obama, remember?

    Isn't California on fire? Got money but acts like a 3rd world country, SAD.
    Most of those fires are on Federal land,guess who's in charge of the Federal Government right now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    China bailed out Obama, remember?
    No I don’t... here is China bailing out Trump:

    Trump owed tens of millions to Bank of China
    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...na-debt-205475

    Here is Trump still having an account in China and paying a thousand times more in taxes in China, than US:

    Trump has bank account in China, pursued hotel deals for a decade: Report
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...ls-tax-records

    Any comment on why we are loosing the trade war?

    Isn't California on fire? Got money but acts like a 3rd world country, SAD.
    Because more than half of their federal taxes do not return to the state, including to forest management on federal land. Trump’s response is sad...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    A rich person paying more in taxes than someone making less isn't the issue, it's the middle class n worker class that together have the means to have a well functioning 1st world country, instead with tooth n nail they want to move up n think high taxes will cost them money once they get rich too...
    Keep supporting billionaire funneling money to other billionaires...

    Their motto is "get rich or die trying" literally...
    The middle class comitted suicide n instead lets blame the ones that managed to get ahead doesn't adress the underlying issue, the american dream is 100% about self interest at any cost, u can't have a functioning country by selfish people who are a bunch of libertarians masquerading as democrats n republicans.
    You mean Trump?

    American ideals are those people had that tore old empires apart. America is in terminal decline n they argue which way they should steer to the bottom.
    So many that lost on their dream now masquerading as leftists while arguing that their right-wing party cares about them..
    You support a corporation as president.

    It's a lost cause, like looking at the decline of an alcoholic, just shrug n move past.
    You are projecting, Trump defender.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    A rich person paying more in taxes than someone making less isn't the issue, it's the middle class n worker class that together have the means to have a well functioning 1st world country, instead with tooth n nail they want to move up n think high taxes will cost them money once they get rich too...

    Their motto is "get rich or die trying" literally...
    The middle class comitted suicide n instead lets blame the ones that managed to get ahead doesn't adress the underlying issue, the american dream is 100% about self interest at any cost, u can't have a functioning country by selfish people who are a bunch of libertarians masquerading as democrats n republicans.

    American ideals are those people had that tore old empires apart. America is in terminal decline n they argue which way they should steer to the bottom.
    So many that lost on their dream now masquerading as leftists while arguing that their right-wing party cares about them..

    It's a lost cause, like looking at the decline of an alcoholic, just shrug n move past.
    The middle class didn't "commit suicide". It's been choked out by the wealthy. I have no idea where you're getting any of this, because the middle class voting against their self-interest because of propaganda pushed by the wealthy is exactly the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    The middle class comitted suicide n instead lets blame the ones that managed to get ahead doesn't adress the underlying issue, the american dream is 100% about self interest at any cost, u can't have a functioning country by selfish people who are a bunch of libertarians masquerading as democrats n republicans.
    https://www.investopedia.com/insight...-middle-class/
    https://www.rollingstone.com/culture...earing-754735/
    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...come-families/
    https://fortune.com/longform/shrinki...dle-class-why/
    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/wh...ing-2019-04-12

    No, it didn't. At all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    The middle class didn't "commit suicide". It's been choked out by the wealthy. I have no idea where you're getting any of this, because the middle class voting against their self-interest because of propaganda pushed by the wealthy is exactly the problem.
    dude, the rich didn't invent the american dream, that is desired by all. Some rich guy can't con people unless they are selfish n don't see the people around them, how it will affect them, if u feel no connection to them you won't think twice about them n there lies the problem... "oh, if the rich weren't putting words together, we would have it great!"

    of all classes, all think only about themselves, to then point fingers at each other is to ignore the problem in the mirror, that the entire nation is narcissist n you can never find a middle ground.

    If people are susceptible before a rich guy gives his 'propaganda', is it really the rich man's fault? If people don't have a backbone n empathy for others, is it the rich man's fault?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    dude, the rich didn't invent the american dream, that is desired by all.
    They absolutely did.

    It was created to mollify dissatisfaction among the lower classes by giving them a hope of a better future that, in reality, would probably never come.


    Some rich guy can't con people unless they are selfish n don't see the people around them, how it will affect them, if u feel no connection to them you won't think twice about them n there lies the problem... "oh, if the rich weren't putting words together, we would have it great!"
    You literally pointed at a movie that was used in exactly the way you're claiming it couldn't be.

    of all classes, all think only about themselves, to then point fingers at each other is to ignore the problem in the mirror, that the entire nation is narcissist n you can never find a middle ground.
    This is projection. All you're saying here is that you lack empathy or compassion for your fellow man, and that you can't comprehend how anyone else could.

    Well, that's your damage. It makes you the exception, not the rule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    Some rich guy can't con people unless they are selfish n don't see the people around them, how it will affect them, if u feel no connection to them you won't think twice about them n there lies the problem...
    I'll take, "What is trickle down economic theory?" for $1,000, Alex.

  17. #217
    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    No I don’t... here is China bailing out Trump:

    You are projecting, Trump defender.
    I don't care for Trump, he is the court jester for the world during America's decline, he wouldn't be half as entertaining if it weren't for people loosing their shit so much about him. I got the popcorn ready for november 3.

    Dude, plz take those millions n throw that issue aside, u got bigger issues, like china borrowing usa 1 trillion $ during obama...n then there's the rest of the trillions you owe...but hey, lets worry about trump business empire as if that is important..the most competent president (and trump is far from that) couldn't salvage usa.

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    Why do so many people base their politics on movie quotes on this forum? Never seen anything like it on other platforms I visit. It's like WoW attracts people who can only construct their version of reality from bits of movies and fantasy they've seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    They absolutely did.

    It was created to mollify dissatisfaction among the lower classes by giving them a hope of a better future that, in reality, would probably never come.




    You literally pointed at a movie that was used in exactly the way you're claiming it couldn't be.



    This is projection. All you're saying here is that you lack empathy or compassion for your fellow man, and that you can't comprehend how anyone else could.

    Well, that's your damage. It makes you the exception, not the rule.
    You literally ignored everything I said, and only deflect deflect take side-roads to fuel ur forum obsession. The american dream was born in the european immigrant before he even got there to gain opportunity away from crowded europe, to be less restricted. Now, you come talking this stupid crap about some rich guy making it all up n conning everyone?..dude, be more entertaining if u want me to keep replying to such nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    The american dream was born in the european immigrant before he even got there to gain opportunity away from crowded europe, to be less restricted.
    Holy hell that's taking ye-olden American mythology at face value. I mean, yeah folks came here for "opportunity", but the notion of the "American Dream" died well over 100 years ago. People coming here to murder the natives and take/exploit the land when the government largely gave it to them for free was pretty rad and all, but like...that's got a shelf life, and eventually you run out of land to give away and resources are all privately owned and exploited. Ignoring a helluva lot more complex social issues including those fleeing religious persecution so they could persecute others over here etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    Now, you come talking this stupid crap about some rich guy making it all up n conning everyone?..dude, be more entertaining if u want me to keep replying to such nonsense.
    I mean...the modern notion of it is pretty much purely fiction, and has been for well over a generation. The last group that could claim the "American Dream" was boomers.

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