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  1. #221
    Quote Originally Posted by Tesshin83 View Post
    I really recommend reading all the quests. Its amazing to level that way.
    its near impossible to go back to that humble sweet mentality when you've been a min maxer since TBC. It would be great but its like once you have seen the red pill truth its not possible to just go back to purposely slowing yourself down by reading quests you've already read/done 10+ years ago. I get what you're saying though.

  2. #222
    Quote Originally Posted by schwarzkopf View Post
    Generally about 1 hour+ in the queue.

    [

    Generally did a little bit of all the levelling zones for expansions, no idea what vanilla ones I did.



    So - just my level 45 toons don't own BfA, but all my 50 toons do ... well that's a solid theory Sherlock.
    Well hopefully this will be useful for you then.

    https://www.wowhead.com/quest-completion-tracker

    You can load your character there and select any zone, it will tell you which quests you haven't completed and mark them in the map. Surely you'll be able to find more than enough that way.

    Let us know how it goes!

  3. #223
    Quote Originally Posted by kamuimac View Post
    my thought is leveling in retail feels disgusting atm.

    got 10-50 in 7 hours. it should have never been possible

    wow is no longer mmorpg in my eyes - its mmo-instance symulator . its lost any right to be called rpg game

    if you took 20 hours you must have been taking very long .....sessions in process for it to be so slow.

    wont lie getting 1-20 in classic feels much more revarding them getting 1-50 in retail now.

    disguested with what blizzard did to this game.
    I mean, it’s still an MMO because it’s an MMO and it’s still an RPG because it’s an RPG.

    Levelling is much better, that’s just facts. It’s obvious, being so many expansions down the line, they want people experiencing the most recent content and storylines. The way levelling was with 120 levels to progress through prevented that a massive amount. Levelling didn’t need to be that long.

    I do think it’s a little quick, but that’s something they can easily change in the future.

  4. #224
    Quote Originally Posted by Lucetia View Post
    This doesn't make any sense at all. What time are you queuing.
    Generally 7pm-midnight Fri-Sun Oceanic time. To give you idea - I had to wait well over 5 minutes just to do the Battle for Loderian scenario

    Quote Originally Posted by Lucetia View Post
    Most dungeons take about 30 minutes in general as well. I think they overtuned the health on the bosses by a lot.
    I don't have a lot of luck with persistence of puggers ... people leave and have to be replaced etc.

    Anyway - the issue would be easily solved if they let 110 -> 45 toons proceed into BfA as they could before the prepatch.

    Due to COVID-19, Germany is running out of sausages and cheese.
    The government considers this to be the Wurst Käse scenario

  5. #225
    Quote Originally Posted by Morae View Post
    I feel the same.

    I just leveled an alt. I felt it was over before it even started. It felt something was missing.

    I would like the option to extend it. It takes roughly one expansion worth of content to get to 50lvl. I would like an option to extend that to two or something.
    "Felt like it is missing something"
    "want an extra expansion"
    You mean like Shadowlands?
    Nothing that exists in 9.0 is intended for level 50 content. Today is a placeholder. The next expansion is the full journey.

  6. #226
    Quote Originally Posted by schwarzkopf View Post
    Generally about 1 hour+ in the queue.

    [

    Generally did a little bit of all the levelling zones for expansions, no idea what vanilla ones I did.



    So - just my level 45 toons don't own BfA, but all my 50 toons do ... well that's a solid theory Sherlock.
    Characters can't own expansions, only accounts. You either own it or you don't, unless we're talking about multiple accounts here?

    And if your accounts own BfA, then just go to the throne room, pick up the quest to begin the expansion, and go from there.

    I'm honestly confused as to the actual nature of the problem at this point.

  7. #227
    The most shocking thing is that I CHOSE to get a character through Outland and another on Northrend, like hot damn I am shooketh

  8. #228
    Quote Originally Posted by Lucetia View Post
    That quest (and the daily) was just a 50% XP buff, which I believe is gone now. Never got rested or anything like that. Don't recall in MoP anyway. I know in BFA they didn't because I leveled 3 of them during Korrak's for quicker heritage and was doing the quest whenever it was up.
    Hmmmm...maybe I was confusing the 50% bonus when it combined with rested exp and assuming it was all rested xp. I'll bow to your more recent interaction with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schwarzkopf View Post
    .

    Anyway - the issue would be easily solved if they let 110 -> 45 toons proceed into BfA as they could before the prepatch.
    Ahh..ok. So the quest to begin BfA just doesn't show up? Not on the event board or on an NPC outside the throne room? For horde it's a grunt just outside, not 100% sure where it would be for alliance(I'll check after I get back from work).

    This does seem like a bug or something. Sorry if I missed that earlier.

  9. #229
    Quote Originally Posted by SirBeef View Post
    Turn off XP and go through as many as you want.

    I'm so glad they decided to do this. This was asked for for years and makes sense lore wise. I'd rather be one and done. Nothing more boring than the old 1-xxx with the same routine. I know they changed it up a bit recently like 60-80 in TBC or WotLK and such, but this is a much better arrangement.
    Have they changed how you turn off xp or do you still have to haul buns back to a capital city and find the stealthed guy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyWholeLifeIsThunder View Post
    The most shocking thing is that I CHOSE to get a character through Outland and another on Northrend, like hot damn I am shooketh
    It's so good. I never chose outland before because I despise most of the zones, especially hellfire peninsula, but on my DH who I had at 110 before I figured "what the heck, Netherstorm seems nice this time of year." The total freedom of it is just wonderful and I leveled all my alts that I had left unfinished.
    Quote Originally Posted by Daevelian View Post
    So this is how far the Lore forum has fallen? Eesh.
    I take it back, BfA is not the lowest the games lore could have gone, this thread proves that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    And just like the thread before it, let's back away from sexualizing Azshara and return to the original topic at hand.

  10. #230
    Quote Originally Posted by SirCowdog View Post
    So the quest to begin BfA just doesn't show up?

    Correct - and it is apparently 'by design' ... was told that it shows up at 50 (or at 10 if you pick that path). But if you are already at 45 - then you are screwed.

    Normally what would have happened after The Loderon instance is that I'd get told to go and talk to Magni in Sithilus.

    That breadcrumb wasn't there, neither did Magni have the quest - and no quests were available in Boralas even if I sailed there (except for the scrapper quest).

    Due to COVID-19, Germany is running out of sausages and cheese.
    The government considers this to be the Wurst Käse scenario

  11. #231
    Quote Originally Posted by schwarzkopf View Post
    Anyway - the issue would be easily solved if they let 110 -> 45 toons proceed into BfA as they could before the prepatch.
    It does. My 110 toon was able to start BFA immediately. You are always placed into the BFA timeline. The only time you aren't is when you go and turn on Chromie time.

    Quote Originally Posted by SirCowdog View Post
    Hmmmm...maybe I was confusing the 50% bonus when it combined with rested exp and assuming it was all rested xp. I'll bow to your more recent interaction with it.
    I mean I could be wrong as I didn't level a new one through WoD/Legion so it might've changed at one point too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Powerogue View Post
    Have they changed how you turn off xp or do you still have to haul buns back to a capital city and find the stealthed guy?
    You talk to the stealth guy to turn it off.

    Quote Originally Posted by schwarzkopf View Post
    Correct - and it is apparently 'by design' ... was told that it shows up at 50 (or at 10 if you pick that path). But if you are already at 45 - then you are screwed.

    Normally what would have happened after The Loderon instance is that I'd get told to go and talk to Magni in Sithilus.

    That breadcrumb wasn't there, neither did Magni have the quest - and no quests were available in Boralas even if I sailed there (except for the scrapper quest).
    That's the Heart of Azeroth. Only it is level 50 capped. Everything else proceeds as normal.

  12. #232
    Quote Originally Posted by schwarzkopf View Post
    Correct - and it is apparently 'by design' ... was told that it shows up at 50 (or at 10 if you pick that path). But if you are already at 45 - then you are screwed.

    Normally what would have happened after The Loderon instance is that I'd get told to go and talk to Magni in Sithilus.

    That breadcrumb wasn't there, neither did Magni have the quest - and no quests were available in Boralas even if I sailed there (except for the scrapper quest).
    This might be dumb "make sure it's plugged in"...but have you gone back to Chromie and seen if there's an option to choose BfA again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Great Destiny Man View Post
    It can be a little jarring if you haven't read up on it prior, in particular the whole booting you out of Chromie time at 50 (honestly feels like a warning should trigger at level 49 that informs you of XP pause option to finish campaign). But aside from that, and a few other teething problems, I think it's great.
    Eh? Chromie time?
    "For Teldrassil."

  14. #234
    Quote Originally Posted by SirCowdog View Post
    Ahh..ok. So the quest to begin BfA just doesn't show up? Not on the event board or on an NPC outside the throne room? For horde it's a grunt just outside, not 100% sure where it would be for alliance(I'll check after I get back from work).

    This does seem like a bug or something. Sorry if I missed that earlier.
    Not quite, you can do BfA normally, what you can't do is any HoA content during leveling and instead it unlocks at lvl 50 -with the HoA itself now having a minimum lvl req of 40 in case you cheese it-

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    Quote Originally Posted by Powerogue View Post
    It's so good. I never chose outland before because I despise most of the zones, especially hellfire peninsula, but on my DH who I had at 110 before I figured "what the heck, Netherstorm seems nice this time of year." The total freedom of it is just wonderful and I leveled all my alts that I had left unfinished.
    For sure; a lot of these zones are just not optimal for leveling, but there is a sense of progression now, and whenever you choose it during your leveling.

  15. #235
    Quote Originally Posted by Thelyron View Post
    The leveling experience itself is great, i agree. Dungeons feel a bit jarring though. Everything takes ages to kill, but it's still really easy, so you just stand there for 5 minutes without ever really having to pay attention to anything, just watching hp bars sloooooowly go down.

    Edit: Also, i really don't like the removal of the satchel of helpful goods. Between that, almost no gear quest rewards, and almost no drops from dungeons, i think i haven't gotten a new piece of gear in about 25 levels now.
    The satchel is still there for me when I do Random Classic Dungeons. I would have assumed it would also still be there when you do other expansion dungeons that offered it once you had multiple dungeons unlocked. You can't very well queue up for a random dungeon when you only have access to one dungeon.

    Random dungeons for bfa never offered a satchel as far as I recall. They always gave AP (and still do)... which I do admit seems a bit odd now when you don't even start with the neck anymore.

    EDIT: After further testing... if I select different expansions via Chromie time with a high enough level character (a level 25 Death Knight in this case), I still get the satchel from Cata (which includes the low lvl classic dungeons), TBC, WOTLK, and MoP. WoD and Legion do not offer the satchel and that's probably a bug. BfA offers AP which might need to change since the neck isn't granted until 50 now.
    Last edited by Kyriani; 2020-10-22 at 03:06 AM.

  16. #236
    Quote Originally Posted by SirCowdog View Post
    This does seem like a bug or something. Sorry if I missed that earlier.
    Even if BFA is bugged for him he should be able to finish leveling with other quests in other zones.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lucetia View Post
    It does. My 110 toon was able to start BFA immediately. You are always placed into the BFA timeline. The only time you aren't is when you go and turn on Chromie time.
    He should be able to quest normally through BFA, the only locked quest should be the HoA. But even if it's bugged, I've provided an alternate solution on how to find quests he hasn't done.

    Quote Originally Posted by schwarzkopf View Post
    That breadcrumb wasn't there, neither did Magni have the quest - and no quests were available in Boralas even if I sailed there (except for the scrapper quest).
    You may have missed my reply, but you can check which quests you haven't completed in any zone using this tool. I tested it myself and works correctly, so check which zones you have incompleted quests in and you can quickly level up whatever you have remaining.

    https://www.wowhead.com/quest-completion-tracker

  17. #237
    Quote Originally Posted by MyWholeLifeIsThunder View Post
    Not quite, you can do BfA normally, what you can't do is any HoA content during leveling and instead it unlocks at lvl 50 -with the HoA itself now having a minimum lvl req of 40 in case you cheese it-
    .

    HoA or not, from what I understand the main problem was a lack of available content from 45 to 50. So even if the HoA isnt available, you should still be able to do the regular BfA quests at 45.

    Maybe the two quest chains are tied together somehow? But that doesn't make sense since exiles reach players can go straight to BfA content.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyfang View Post
    Even if BFA is bugged for him he should be able to finish leveling with other quests in other zones.]
    There's also daily quests which are worth exp. Although he said they werent for his lvl 45, so there might be a level cutoff at some point. I'll test it when my current alt reaches 40+

  18. #238
    Quote Originally Posted by Morae View Post
    I feel the same.

    I just leveled an alt. I felt it was over before it even started. It felt something was missing.

    I would like the option to extend it. It takes roughly one expansion worth of content to get to 50lvl. I would like an option to extend that to two or something.

    Generally speaking it was relatively ok, though. Since this is the case, its probably considered success by blizz and they won't touch it until they feel like they need to fix something that isn't broken like usual.
    Uhm, u got 100% xp bonus buff...

  19. #239
    Quote Originally Posted by Lucetia View Post
    That's the Heart of Azeroth. Only it is level 50 capped. Everything else proceeds as normal.

    Well - it didn't proceed as normal, the stuff that happened when BfA first launched (which involved heading to Sithilus to talk to Magni) did not happen.

    Due to COVID-19, Germany is running out of sausages and cheese.
    The government considers this to be the Wurst Käse scenario

  20. #240
    Quote Originally Posted by Synical123 View Post
    Well if you know it’s broke then don’t do it.
    So what class and spec is not broken like the Holy paladin? Prot and Ret oneshots as well, just with crappy healing.

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