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  1. #241
    Quote Originally Posted by baskev View Post
    Good, something else then a mount this time.

    Like the idea. But do not like the excecution. Think it needs to be more organic and sparkly. Looks like a paper halloween costume.
    So for the idea 10 out of 10
    for how it looks 2 out of 10
    Im not sure if my opinion carries much weight, because i dont think i would ever equip fairy wings of any kind, HOWEVER, i completely agree - they look like those cheap dollar store elastic wings you would get for a 4yo girl. Compared to what they COULD have done, and HAVE done with other wing models, it just seems extremely cheap and tacky.

  2. #242
    Quote Originally Posted by arkanon View Post
    Im not sure if my opinion carries much weight, because i dont think i would ever equip fairy wings of any kind, HOWEVER, i completely agree - they look like those cheap dollar store elastic wings you would get for a 4yo girl. Compared to what they COULD have done, and HAVE done with other wing models, it just seems extremely cheap and tacky.
    Cheap and Tacky sounds perfect for a Cash shop Outfit no ?

    Like the Sparkle Pony.

  3. #243
    Quote Originally Posted by agm114r View Post
    What alarm bells? It's very simple. If you don't like what they're selling, don't buy any of it. If you like it, do so.

    Blizzard or any other game company doesn't have to do it your way. If you don't like Blizzard's way, stop playing their game and paying them money.

    I'm not white knighting for Blizzard or anyone else, but, I do run a company. It's my company, and I'll sell to who I like, in whatever way I like. If you don't like what or how I'm selling, you don't have to spend money with my company. If five customers don't like my new campaign, but fifty others love it, well, too bad, so sad, for those five people who don't like it.



    Alarm bells: Hey we are now removing features from the product, and spinning them off into a new, cost based system.
    Cause for Alarm: Development resources are shifting, creating a lower quality product, at the same price.

    Alarm bells: We value cash-flow and quarterlies more than long term customer relationships.
    Cause for Alarm: Poor cash, and customer management are going to be detrimental to the long term health and stability of the company.

    Page 7 of their 2019 filings:

    As of December 31, 2019, the Company had approximately $2.7 billion of long-term debt outstanding. Our debt burden
    could have important consequences, including: increasing our vulnerability to general adverse economic and industry
    conditions; limiting our flexibility in planning for, or reacting to, changes in our business and our industry; requiring the
    dedication of a substantial portion of any cash flows from operations for the payment of principal and interest on our
    indebtedness, thereby reducing the availability of cash flow to fund our operations, growth strategy, working capital, capital
    expenditures, future business opportunities, and other general corporate purposes; restricting us from making strategic
    acquisitions or causing us to make non-strategic divestitures; limiting our ability to obtain additional financing for working
    capital, capital expenditures, research and development, acquisitions and general corporate or other purposes; limiting our
    ability to adjust to changing market conditions; and placing us at a competitive disadvantage relative to competitors who have
    lower levels of debt. Further, though our current long-term debt all bears fixed interest rates, if and when we have borrowings
    at floating rates of interest, it could expose us to the risk of increased interest rates with respect to those borrowings.


    Alarm bells: We're going to devote resources to trivial matters (cash for transmog, redoing the bonus loot graphic), while major milestones (like, release dates) are failures.
    Cause for Alarm: Strategy decisions are being made with little regard to downstream impacts.

    Finally, because we have to get technical - I'm a shareholder, management is making poor choices. I think you're confusing dissatisfaction with a product/service with the actions that could lead to a great decline, stagnation or premature end of an amazing franchise.


    But, keep standing by the business model of "Don't like it, don't buy it."

    Markets dictate. Not companies.

    Also, I sound like a dick - that's not the intent. I'm just...irritated by the last 2-3 years of work from Blizzard, and the corporatization of video games in general.
    Last edited by Ivank0v; 2020-10-20 at 11:44 PM. Reason: Quoted portion didn't carry over.

  4. #244
    Quote Originally Posted by Addiena View Post
    Cheap and Tacky sounds perfect for a Cash shop Outfit no ?

    Like the Sparkle Pony.
    Oh god i had forgotten all about the sparkle pony! To be fair, i just sat back and laughed at all the drama, because again, it had literally zero appeal to me personally, so i didnt care. But oh man, did some people care or WHAT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adeptus Astartes View Post
    Alarm bells

    But, keep standing by the business model of "Don't like it, don't buy it."
    Yeah if you could keep your facts and actual quotes from Blizzard outa here please? We focus on hyperbole, exaggeration, straw-man arguments, and attacking peoples grammar. Additionally, if someone posts a hard fact that we dont like, we simply wont reply and will just move to another thread.

    I am ofc kidding, those quotes are quite concerning, just as they were then.

  5. #245
    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    it is b oth, dont listen to tippi, it is part of a 6 month promo, and can be bought for 20$ for those who dont wanna get 6 months sub.
    Ok. It being both should be good because all these asshats bitched that these loyalty rewards were only for being taken hostage by Blizzard for 6 months and not for sale for everyone.

  6. #246
    Love the chest piece and the shoulders, everything else is meh

    I would have deffo preferred another mount for the 6 month sub deal tho

  7. #247
    Wow this is scummy, and to all those donkeys who buy it you're the problem.
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  8. #248
    Quote Originally Posted by Adeptus Astartes View Post
    Alarm bells: We're going to devote resources to trivial matters (cash for transmog, redoing the bonus loot graphic), while major milestones (like, release dates) are failures.
    Cause for Alarm: Strategy decisions are being made with little regard to downstream impacts.

    Finally, because we have to get technical - I'm a shareholder, management is making poor choices. I think you're confusing dissatisfaction with a product/service with the actions that could lead to a great decline, stagnation or premature end of an amazing franchise.


    But, keep standing by the business model of "Don't like it, don't buy it."

    Markets dictate. Not companies.

    Also, I sound like a dick - that's not the intent. I'm just...irritated by the last 2-3 years of work from Blizzard, and the corporatization of video games in general.
    ...Do you think that the expansion was delayed because the art for armor and UI elements wasn't ready?

  9. #249
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbazz View Post
    Wow this is scummy, and to all those donkeys who buy it you're the problem.
    Literally got it for free.
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    Crabs have been removed from the game... because if I see another one I’m just going to totally lose it. *sobbing* I’m sorry, I just can’t right now... I just... OK just give me a minute, I’ll be OK..

  10. #250
    it's obvious how hard blizzard works ... they just create unnecessary stupid things, and, what's really important, they ignore it.
    wow it's starting to look like diablo 3, I mean, blizzard pays more attention to cosmetics than to important and requested things ..

  11. #251
    Quote Originally Posted by Nnyco View Post
    Literally got it for free.
    You mean you gave them a 6 months advance? So if SL sucks a big pile of ass and you're unhappy, too bad. It also definitely doesn't change my opinion on your decision to do that.
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  12. #252
    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbazz View Post
    You mean you gave them a 6 months advance? So if SL sucks a big pile of ass and you're unhappy, too bad. It also definitely doesn't change my opinion on your decision to do that.
    The closest Blizzard has ever come to offering me "a big pile of ass" was WoD and I still found quite a lot of enjoyment in that. WoW is just fun, so why not save some money since I'm going to be playing anyway? And besides which, all indicators so far is that SL will be pretty nice.
    Shut your goddamn mouth, Gene!

  13. #253
    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbazz View Post
    You mean you gave them a 6 months advance? So if SL sucks a big pile of ass and you're unhappy, too bad. It also definitely doesn't change my opinion on your decision to do that.
    That still makes it free. You also don't have to buy a new 6-month subscription in order to get it for free. If you have an active 6-month subscription you also get it. Don't be so concerned with other people's money and what they get enjoyment from. If you are not happy then stop playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adeptus Astartes View Post
    Finally, because we have to get technical - I'm a shareholder, management is making poor choices. I think you're confusing dissatisfaction with a product/service with the actions that could lead to a great decline, stagnation or premature end of an amazing franchise. But, keep standing by the business model of "Don't like it, don't buy it."
    Don't like it, don't buy it applies equally to owning shares as it does playing a video game. Cash shop, subscriber retention, and other things are not something that should be an alarm bell if you ultimately care about your stake in the company. There is little downstream impact from an item being put on the shop. These are not things that require thousands of dollars to create.

    Most of the item piggy backs on things being added to Shadowlands and were likely created at the same time so nothing was "delayed" because of it.
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  14. #254
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbazz View Post
    You mean you gave them a 6 months advance? So if SL sucks a big pile of ass and you're unhappy, too bad. It also definitely doesn't change my opinion on your decision to do that.
    No, I have 6month sub running since... always. Got it as gift the moment i logged to bnet. Didnt even open the shop.
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    Crabs have been removed from the game... because if I see another one I’m just going to totally lose it. *sobbing* I’m sorry, I just can’t right now... I just... OK just give me a minute, I’ll be OK..

  15. #255
    Can't believe people whine about something they get for free, and if u don't get it, it's cuz ur not subbed n then u have no right to complain anyways since it doesn't affect u at all.

    It's a 15 year game, ofc they will not put in these kinds of efforts if not to milk the last drop, people are delusional if they think if shop went away, blizz would churn out these items with ur sub. They wouldn't. I would complain if this was a new game, but it ain't, anyone taking this game serious at this point is clueless or a salt miner like asmongold who live off donations based on how much he can complain.

    If anything was disgusting by blizz, was shadowlands collector's ed box, no items for the other games n a huge price hike since last time.

    My 6 month sub so far has given me a free mount n now a xmog, I felt that was owed to me, so won't complain I got it.
    Last edited by Ihavewaffles; 2020-10-21 at 01:37 AM.

  16. #256
    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    Can't believe people whine about something they get for free, and if u don't get it, it's cuz ur not subbed n then u have no right to complain anyways since it doesn't affect u at all.
    Just to be clear - you think everyone who's subbed to the game gets these? Certainly seems to say that.

  17. #257
    Quote Originally Posted by arkanon View Post
    Just to be clear - you think everyone who's subbed to the game gets these? Certainly seems to say that.
    If ur not subbed for 6 months n are going to play 6 months anyways, ur loosing money, but if ur not subbed constantly, ur not playing the game n then ur opinion is invalid.

  18. #258
    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    If ur not subbed for 6 months n are going to play 6 months anyways, ur loosing money, but if ur not subbed constantly, ur not playing the game n then ur opinion is invalid.
    Wtf are you talking about? Are you legitimately trying to claim that those who choose to purchase their playtime in any manor other than specifically the 6month sub are not entitled to an opinion? You realise that's what you are saying, right?

    Play so much you pay for your sub with gold? Stfu! Your opinion doesn't count!

    Pay monthly as you go because it suits you better? Stfu! Your opinion doesn't count!

    The extreme level of delusion on this forum is honestly mind boggling.

  19. #259
    Quote Originally Posted by arkanon View Post
    Wtf are you talking about? Are you legitimately trying to claim that those who choose to purchase their playtime in any manor other than specifically the 6month sub are not entitled to an opinion? You realise that's what you are saying, right?

    Play so much you pay for your sub with gold? Stfu! Your opinion doesn't count!

    Pay monthly as you go because it suits you better? Stfu! Your opinion doesn't count!

    The extreme level of delusion on this forum is honestly mind boggling.
    If u don't have an active sub, why should u care about the game when you are not even playing the game? Why should someone's opinion matter when they don't even participate? Why should u affect those that play the game? So no, your opinion doesn't matter.

  20. #260
    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    If u don't have an active sub, why should u care about the game when you are not even playing the game? Why should someone's opinion matter when they don't even participate? Why should u affect those that play the game? So no, your opinion doesn't matter.
    Oh dear, you are so confused right now. I really think you are confused about the requirements for the item, and VERY confused about the status of my subscription. Why is this confusing for you?
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