New date may not be til spring...

[idnn]

it wil be a december release its a fucking 100% guarantee

[AlmightyGerkin]

With no new date yet given, i would think november is out the window and december unlikely due to the holidays.

Sure they could do jan but i doubt it since i feel like a lot is being redisgned that spring is looking more then likely

I am getting warcraft 3 refunded er reforge flashbacks

[Wheeler]

So what you are saying if there was only 1 borrowed power everyone woudl be fine with them and there would be no problems? man no wonder azerite was such a success!

Azerite Power = Covenants/Soulbinds.

Too much to tune.

Big difference between that and 2 covenant ABILITIES.

[shise]

No - they are all medium NON core issues (just changing data around).

I'm more concerned about missing cinematics, than a few lines of data that need editing.

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Sorry dude - but you need to be rational on this.

Firstly the fact that I can be called a blizzard hater and a blizzard lover on the same day pretty much sums up that those terms are just irrational reflections of some internal struggle you have.

The KEY point here is that NOTHING major is broken... literally NOTHING.

What is broken is a little bit of balance in some of the systems.

Nailed.

The beta is nowhere as bad as some are making it seem. People forget that we are in 2020, we have plenty of access to a game which is not even released yet.. maybe we shouldn´t..

Then you have all the streamers brainwashing people to believe what they want in order to rise their subs lol

I miss the times when we knew little to nothing until release. There were probably far more bugs than today but they were simply not exposed, and by the time of release, 99% did not exist.

[LazuOG]

Levelling experience and tuning is pretty much data files - not code issues. Code issues make for long delays, not adjusting data files.

It literally bugs out so hard that you cant play your characters for 12hrs straight. While lvling, you sometimes get randomly ported into lvl 60 zones. Its f'ed up.

Nvm I now remember you from other posts. You're literally the most pointless person to talk to on these entire forums. If blizzard shilling were lucrative you'd be making big bank.

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No - they are all medium NON core issues (just changing data around).

I'm more concerned about missing cinematics, than a few lines of data that need editing.

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Sorry dude - but you need to be rational on this.

Firstly the fact that I can be called a blizzard hater and a blizzard lover on the same day pretty much sums up that those terms are just irrational reflections of some internal struggle you have.

The KEY point here is that NOTHING major is broken... literally NOTHING.

What is broken is a little bit of balance in some of the systems.

Ok mr. wise guy. I guess they delayed their game and still haven't announced a new release date because there are literally zeromajor issues with it and they just felt like fucking themselves over. You are so dense I can hear my monitor stand creaking under the weight of your bias when I force it to display your messages.

[schwarzkopf]

Ok mr. wise guy. I guess they delayed their game and still haven't announced a new release date b

You do realise that nothing major is not the same as nothing at all.

I can provide a reference to some dictionaries if you wish ?

[steellz]

It literally bugs out so hard that you cant play your characters for 12hrs straight. While lvling, you sometimes get randomly ported into lvl 60 zones. Its f'ed up.

Nvm I now remember you from other posts. You're literally the most pointless person to talk to on these entire forums. If blizzard shilling were lucrative you'd be making big bank.

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Ok mr. wise guy. I guess they delayed their game and still haven't announced a new release date because there are literally zeromajor issues with it and they just felt like fucking themselves over. You are so dense I can hear my monitor stand creaking under the weight of your bias when I force it to display your messages.

What i don't understand, if the problems are so minor why the delay?! couldn't they fix it using hotfixes or quickpatches? clearly there's something more going on behind the curtain that we don't get to see. The "balance" can be fixed behind the scenes, so why the delay?! if it was that simple then they would of just released the xpac but delayed Mythic+/ Raiding / Pvp a little longer.

[Scifix]

January would probably be the best for them, Cyberpunk is gonna steal ALOT of gamers` time in late november/december, i`m sure they dont want to compete with that right off the bat

[Die]

Not really.

They can move it once and people will be a bit forgiving. But the more they move it, the angrier the player base gets. When they give us the next date, that'll be the date. It'd be really bad PR to move it yet again.

Blizzard hasn't proven to be the experts on good and bad PR.

[LazuOG]

You do realise that nothing major is not the same as nothing at all.

I can provide a reference to some dictionaries if you wish ?

So you effectively said nothing of value in this entire thread and the final culmination of your genious is dabbling in semantics. Got it.

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What i don't understand, if the problems are so minor why the delay?! couldn't they fix it using hotfixes or quickpatches? clearly there's something more going on behind the curtain that we don't get to see. The "balance" can be fixed behind the scenes, so why the delay?! if it was that simple then they would of just released the xpac but delayed Mythic+/ Raiding / Pvp a little longer.

Thats what Im agruing with Schwarzkopf about. The guy keeps saying theres essentially nothing wrong with the game, balancing is a minor issue and everyhting about the game is pretty much rosey in every thread he stops by. Calls himself "The One Sane Man" and would probably buy 5$/litre Blizzard water if they were ever to release such a thing.

[Evilmoo]

I think they'll release game on 30th of December, to uphold SLA of 2020, have enough time to fix shit and avoid christmas / thanksgiving.

[Fleugen]

Perhaps my memory isn't perfect but what was wrong with the release of WoD? I thought it was only the patch content that was rushed and unfinished while the base game was fine. Tanaan Jungle not included?

You're absolutely right about BfA though. Blizzard usually doesn't release such broken and unfinished games. Well.... there is Warcraft 3: Reforged and there is Diablo 3.

The launch of WoD's major problem was a pigeon hole starter quest leading into the Garrison, which for the majority of players, straight up did not work. The unfortunate side effect: Because you needed a Garrison to start ANY of the new zones in the game, this meant people got stuck at the very start of the expansion and couldn't progress.

Aside from that, the launch was fairly smooth. But that was a GIANT sore point, because nobody could do ANYTHING until they could pass that stopping point.

[Balbuto]

Not really.

They can move it once and people will be a bit forgiving. But the more they move it, the angrier the player base gets. When they give us the next date, that'll be the date. It'd be really bad PR to move it yet again.

Yeah but it would be even worse to delay it once and still release it unfinished.

[vitor210]

With the recent new 6 month promo scam wouldn't be surprised if it is spring.

how is it a scam, I wonder? Or you're just repeating the same buzzwords you saw on reddit?

[Zuben]

I actually wouldn't mind. Still yet to play 8.3 content and can't quite be arsed to for the moment.

[Rinaul]

Meh wow's been dead since patch 1.12




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There it is boiz! Pack it up, let's go home!

[froschhure]

There is some evidence to support this claim, but obviously people just ignore / dismiss it. Like someone said on the previous page, the calender had the first SL event listed for feb 2021. Its evidence, but not conclusive.

Interesting, but with a delay of 4 months, it is more likely that corruption would have been readded or not disabled. Or what is the plan here? Enabling legion and bfa m+/ raid simultaneously to fill the content gap?

[Cracked]

Sorry dude - but you need to be rational on this.

Firstly the fact that I can be called a blizzard hater and a blizzard lover on the same day pretty much sums up that those terms are just irrational reflections of some internal struggle you have.

The KEY point here is that NOTHING major is broken... literally NOTHING.

What is broken is a little bit of balance in some of the systems.

That is a very general SW development view of it. The problem is that in games that doesn't really matter. Minor bugs can be devastating and "little bit of balance" can mean the entire game is garbage. Hasn't stopped Blizzard before from releasing shit, but obviously they know better what's actually broken than anyone.

[Baneto]

I wouldnt mind if they decided to release in 2021, would give me time to level alts, or unsub and do other stuff.

[Virtual Boy]

it will release between Naxx and BC. So when is naxx/classic supposed to be completed? 2020 might be out the window.